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auror said:
It was certainly a choice to feature prominent interviews with a forum/Twitter shitposter who in the documentary admits to calling the subject of the documentary basketball Hitler 500 times on Twitter.
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They should have omitted that clip. Calling Cooley "Hitler" is wildly inappropriate for myriad reasons. Cooley is a selfish opportunist who arguably betrayed Providence College and its supporters, but not a genocidal fascist who drums up hate for disfavored groups of people. Wrong metaphor, and given the seriousness of what's going on in the world right now, it's insanely tone deaf to include that. Honestly, it makes the speaker and the producers of the project seem immature and ignorant.
 
So pretty much Providence fans are mad at a coach for building a great culture that the community can get excited for, taking them to heights they didn’t know was possible, and then making a smart business move to leave for another opportunity.

They sound ungrateful and bitter.
 
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NJHoops said:
I don’t have a dog in this fight, and I’ve disliked both Cooley and Providence fans since about 2012. But, that thing really veers into some bad fan fiction type vibes at times.
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It's as if someone made a video of a fan message board. In that I think it's terrific, if a little risky. They do seem to clearly outline what is speculation and rumor versus first can knowledge.
 
If Divine Providence was any indication of how the rest of this series will be, I have some high expectations for what is to come.
 
ninety-nine said:
They should have omitted that clip. Calling Cooley "Hitler" is wildly inappropriate for myriad reasons. Cooley is a selfish opportunist who arguably betrayed Providence College and its supporters, but not a genocidal fascist who drums up hate for disfavored groups of people. Wrong metaphor, and given the seriousness of what's going on in the world right now, it's insanely tone deaf to include that. Honestly, it makes the speaker and the producers of the project seem immature and ignorant.
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Largely agree. Maybe the producers get a pass because they are just showing what's out there and the depth of feeling that Cooleys abrupt departure caused?
 
CL82 said:
Largely agree. Maybe the producers get a pass because they are just showing what's out there and the depth of feeling that Cooleys abrupt departure caused?
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That there are OTT emotional reactions and statements to disappointment and betrayal. Who would have thunk it.

This production missed a great opportunity not having Georgetown fans present their point of view.

If the BIG does a Caitlin Clark feature they should interview you and @nomar.
 
A few thoughts on this one. Some have already been mentioned:

1. Production quality was very low with some very questionable choices for “experts” on the subject. Is the Big East really affiliated with this effort and what is John Fanta thinking? This can’t be good for his career.

2. PC will always be a stepping-stone job. So you’re telling me the big storyline is a guy who had success at a mediocre program is leaving for a better job where he’ll make a ton of money. I understand and totally admire the passion of the PC fan base, but get over it. Although I will admit, I’m looking forward to Saturday.
 
ninety-nine said:
They should have omitted that clip. Calling Cooley "Hitler" is wildly inappropriate for myriad reasons. Cooley is a selfish opportunist who arguably betrayed Providence College and its supporters, but not a genocidal fascist who drums up hate for disfavored groups of people. Wrong metaphor, and given the seriousness of what's going on in the world right now, it's insanely tone deaf to include that. Honestly, it makes the speaker and the producers of the project seem immature and ignorant.
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Don't think it's that serious. It's a joke. He even said obviously he's not like real hitler, he's like a basketball version. Was just his way of saying terrible villian.
 
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BigErnMcCracken said:
That's funny, I thought the same thing when I saw the nerf hoop over the door.
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Outside of the printer over his left shoulder it's the only thing that caught my attention. Came away with a different impression about the nerf hoop. Said good for him having one. Beats throwing paper into a waste basket for kicks. But he could have straightened it before going on air. No need to show you struggle to slam dunk a 6 foot hoop.
 
Punkbo said:
A few thoughts on this one. Some have already been mentioned:

1. Production quality was very low with some very questionable choices for “experts” on the subject. Is the Big East really affiliated with this effort and what is John Fanta thinking? This can’t be good for his career.

2. PC will always be a stepping-stone job. So you’re telling me the big storyline is a guy who had success at a mediocre program is leaving for a better job where he’ll make a ton of money. I understand and totally admire the passion of the PC fan base, but get over it. Although I will admit, I’m looking forward to Saturday.
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The entire source of PC fans' anger is this, that he demonstrated clearly and definitively that PC is only a stepping stone.

Everyone they hired after Gavitt left to launch the BE was either incapable of sustaining any success (Mullaney 2.0 [too old], Chiesa, Welsh, Davis) or willing to jump once something better came along (Pitino, Barnes, Gillen).

Cooley was supposed to be different. He was supposed to be one of them (he was born and raised in Providence). With him leaving for greener pastures, they were slapped in the face with the prospect that they may in fact be doomed to being little more than a pit stop on a coach's resume.
 
Punkbo said:
A few thoughts on this one. Some have already been mentioned:

1. Production quality was very low with some very questionable choices for “experts” on the subject. Is the Big East really affiliated with this effort and what is John Fanta thinking? This can’t be good for his career.

2. PC will always be a stepping-stone job. So you’re telling me the big storyline is a guy who had success at a mediocre program is leaving for a better job where he’ll make a ton of money. I understand and totally admire the passion of the PC fan base, but get over it. Although I will admit, I’m looking forward to Saturday.
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How many times do we really need that fan tell us about "the brand"?
 
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Good documentary, a lot of recap of stuff already known/ speculated on. Game at PC on the 27th is going to be mayhem.

The audio mixing on the doc was terrible, otherwise worth a watch to get any Big East fans fired up for this week.
 
Apollo said:
Good documentary, a lot of recap of stuff already known/ speculated on. Game at PC on the 27th is going to be mayhem.

The audio mixing on the doc was terrible, otherwise worth a watch to get any Big East fans fired up for this week.
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That drove me nuts. I kept having to adjust my TV volume (watched it over Roku) because there were such wild swings. I really hope they get that issue ironed out for the next one. I also felt the documentary ran a little long, given that it didn't cover a wide range of Providence-related stories.
 
Punkbo said:
A few thoughts on this one. Some have already been mentioned:

1. Production quality was very low with some very questionable choices for “experts” on the subject. Is the Big East really affiliated with this effort and what is John Fanta thinking? This can’t be good for his career.

2. PC will always be a stepping-stone job. So you’re telling me the big storyline is a guy who had success at a mediocre program is leaving for a better job where he’ll make a ton of money. I understand and totally admire the passion of the PC fan base, but get over it. Although I will admit, I’m looking forward to Saturday.
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The conference is not affiliated with it in any capacity
 
FfldCntyFan said:
The entire source of PC fans' anger is this, that he demonstrated clearly and definitively that PC is only a stepping stone.

Everyone they hired after Gavitt left to launch the BE was either incapable of sustaining any success (Mullaney 2.0 [too old], Chiesa, Welsh, Davis) or willing to jump once something better came along (Pitino, Barnes, Gillen).

Cooley was supposed to be different. He was supposed to be one of them (he was born and raised in Providence). With him leaving for greener pastures, they were slapped in the face with the prospect that they may in fact be doomed to being little more than a pit stop on a coach's resume.
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The doc honestly made me respect and feel bad for their fans a bit. They know its doable. They watched Calhoun do it next door.
 
The documentary had a lot of pretty good old video clips and told a fairly compelling story, but the only interviewee that brought anything to the table was the old guy. The PC college junior and the dude sitting the dark, really?
 
ConnHuskBask said:
The documentary had a lot of pretty good old video clips and told a fairly compelling story, but the only interviewee that brought anything to the table was the old guy. The PC college junior and the dude sitting the dark, really?
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I suspect its someone who is doing this for the first time and is working through being new in the process, but I thought given those expectations they did a really good job. I hope they continue to get better and follow through with the other 10 schools. I also hope they improve the sound engineering.

The voice narration was excellent.
 
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HuskyWarrior611 said:
So pretty much Providence fans are mad at a coach for building a great culture that the community can get excited for, taking them to heights they didn’t know was possible, and then making a smart business move to leave for another opportunity.

They sound ungrateful and bitter.
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That’s even worse than spoiled and arrogant.
 
TRest said:
I didn't know ADub had a son.
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Was with him for the Georgetown game at XL. He posts on the Friars board a lot these days. The BY is like reading an emotional high school girl’s diary mixed with advanced analytics.
 
FfldCntyFan said:
The entire source of PC fans' anger is this, that he demonstrated clearly and definitively that PC is only a stepping stone.

Everyone they hired after Gavitt left to launch the BE was either incapable of sustaining any success (Mullaney 2.0 [too old], Chiesa, Welsh, Davis) or willing to jump once something better came along (Pitino, Barnes, Gillen).

Cooley was supposed to be different. He was supposed to be one of them (he was born and raised in Providence). With him leaving for greener pastures, they were slapped in the face with the prospect that they may in fact be doomed to being little more than a pit stop on a coach's resume.
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I think that's spot on. I add that the PC fanbase bought into the We. Together. Friars stuff and got embarrassed when it turned out to be bullshit. The "collapse" down the stretch after he seemingly accepted the job, put his Houston the market, etc was not a good look either.
 
CTBasketball said:
Was with him for the Georgetown game at XL. He posts on the Friars board a lot these days. The BY is like reading an emotional high school girl’s diary mixed with advanced analytics.
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And the PC board is better?
 
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