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Big 12 and ACC are fumbling with their expansion apprehensiveness? They will become 2nd class BBall citizens as well if they continue.

nelsonmuntz said:
UConn has an offer from the ACC or Big 12? Really? Where has this been reported? How did you find this out? Have you been to a car wash or a basement in West Virginia?
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Does UConn have an AAC offer? They must considering how often you (and only you) keep bringing it up.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
Wanting something to happen is not a plan or a choice. It is pointless wishcasting. Making UConn's athletic program as strong as it can be, which includes the Big East being a strong conference, is how UConn gets invited to a better conference for our athletic program, not your endless bitching.

Do you think any of the 8 Big East football schools in 2004 would be in major conferences today if they just gave up and blamed it on the league they were in? The NBE of 2004 worked out just fine for everyone but USF and UConn. Some of the reasons it didn't work out for UConn was bad timing, some of that was bad luck. If would have been 16 of 16 teams screwed if all of those schools fans and Administrations just bitched and moaned non-stop about how unfair life was and waited around for the invitation from a bigger league to come in.

There are a lot of times that I feel like a big chunk of the UConn fanbase just reeks of quitter and victimhood, and I can't be the only one that feels this way.
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UConn didn't "give up," we took a gamble by leaving the AAC and joining the Big East. This gamble payed off big time and we have just had some of the best years in our history with a bright future ahead of us. UConn has obviously been in talks with the B12 so the P4 want isn't "wishful thinking". I don't think our B12 bid died and lots of B12 figures on social media don't think so either

It's not wrong to admit the Big East isn't UConn's home. We aren't getting financially compensated the way we should as a large state school vs our conference peers. I think UConn is ultimately worthy of the P4 and I'm excited to see what's in store for us. These talks take time

Saying the fanbase reeks of "quitter" is crazy when you're the one calling for us to essentially sideline our Athletic Dept. future just to ride the Big East wave that is coming to a massive halt sooner than you think. If you want us to be Seton Hall/Providence/St Johns etc so bad why don't you just be fans of those teams? That is not our destiny
 
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cellocgg said:
UConn didn't "give up," we took a gamble by leaving the AAC and joining the Big East. This gamble payed off big time and we have just had some of the best years in our history with a bright future ahead of us. UConn has obviously been in talks with the B12 so the P4 want isn't "wishful thinking". I don't think our B12 bid died and lots of B12 figures on social media don't think so either

It's not wrong to admit the Big East isn't UConn's home. We aren't getting financially compensated the way we should as a large state school vs our conference peers. I think UConn is ultimately worthy of the P4 and I'm excited to see what's in store for us. These talks take time

Saying the fanbase reeks of "quitter" is crazy when you're the one calling for us to essentially sideline our Athletic Dept. future just to ride the Big East wave that is coming to a massive halt sooner than you think. If you want us to be Seton Hall/Providence/St Johns etc so bad why don't you just be fans of those teams? That is not our destiny
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You say I want to stay in the Big East in response to a post of mine that you quoted where I explain how UConn gets out of the Big East.
 
John said:
Your long term goal is to turn UConn into Seton Hall North. We heard you the first time.
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UConn will win in acc and big 12 if they go.

Football, also, wont Finish in last place. It just wont.

Mora has a team to 9 wins in his third year with no conference. He seems to like it here, isn't hung up on football nostalgia and committmenr/portal and knows how to build a roster year over year as an nfl coach.

I think great recruiters of high school kids will be emphasized and development and preparing your players for future success (nfl or portal) is the goal.

P2 young players in portal.

Mora pitch:

I think you can be a starter and a difference maker here next August. You come here, play well
,I will tell you to go into the portal next year.

We will fight like hell to keep you, but if you go into the portal that means we have had success.

I will never try and stop you. Just give you advice and honest feedback.
 
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nelsonmuntz said:
You say I want to stay in the Big East in response to a post of mine that you quoted where I explain how UConn gets out of the Big East.
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So you want to get out of the Big East by staying in the Big East?
 
nelsonmuntz said:
Let's not over-react to one season.
The P2 may try to break away, but that means the ACC, Big 12 and Big East( is) in trouble.... I have trouble seeing the scenario where the P4 is saved and the Big East is not.
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No future seasons are what I'm talkin' about and where the pro model of college sports is going...#facts. $$$... And I like the BE too, just don't see it being able to keep up in any way with the P-4, who will literally be buying players/talent the BE can't.
Blades said:
That said with NIL and now revenue sharing coming next year, ( new Big East TV deal around $6-7 mil per school vs. both the ACC/Big 12 near $40 mil ( inc. bowl payouts, etc. ...as always follow the money trail !)
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This thread is off the rails.

The future of any athletic department is primarily dictated through their football program. We can like it or we can hate it, but we have to accept it. UConn football isn't going away. In fact, in Dave Benedict's own words, it's time to "double down".

The Big East is a short-term home. We know it. They know it. Schools like Georgetown and Villanova will never invest in big time football (one could argue they are struggling to invest in basketball too).

The very moment that either the Big12 or ACC realize the immense value we bring, we're gone...
 
UConnDan97 said:
This thread is off the rails.

The future of any athletic department is primarily dictated through their football program. We can like it or we can hate it, but we have to accept it. UConn football isn't going away. In fact, in Dave Benedict's own words, it's time to "double down".

The Big East is a short-term home. We know it. They know it. Schools like Georgetown and Villanova will never invest in big time football (one could argue they are struggling to invest in basketball too).

The very moment that either the Big12 or ACC realize the immense value we bring, we're gone...
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Just to add on to this, North Carolina, a program undoubtedly larger than ours but with a similar athletic stature, said that they hired Bill Belichick not because they wanted to, but because they had to in the current athletics landscape
 
nelsonmuntz said:
Is this your argument for the AAC?
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They would take us back for free. Lol. Only problem is it would hurt basketball. So that’s not happening. Only options are the Big 12, Big Ten, or the ACC. At least the AAC supports women’s college sports to a respectable degree. I’m just waiting for the day when St John’s announces they will no longer support women’s college athletics. Only way they continue supporting women’s programs is if Pitino donates half his salary to the athletic dept.:rolleyes:
 
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CONN78SEJ said:
They would take us back for free. Lol. Only problem is it would hurt basketball. So that’s not happening. Only options are the Big 12, Big Ten, or the ACC. At least the AAC supports women’s college sports to a respectable degree. I’m just waiting for the day when St John’s announces they will no longer support women’s college athletics. Only way they continue supporting women’s programs is if Pitino donates half his salary to the athletic dept.:rolleyes:
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If the Big 12, Big Ten and ACC were options right now, we would already be in one of those leagues.

What part of this do Big East Haters have so much trouble getting their hands around?
 
CONN78SEJ said:
They would take us back for free. Lol. Only problem is it would hurt basketball. So that’s not happening. Only options are the Big 12, Big Ten, or the ACC. At least the AAC supports women’s college sports to a respectable degree. I’m just waiting for the day when St John’s announces they will no longer support women’s college athletics. Only way they continue supporting women’s programs is if Pitino donates half his salary to the athletic dept.:rolleyes:
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I respect the fact that at least you have the balls to say you want us back in the AAC, unlike the passive aggressive nonsense most of the other Big East Haters do.
 
My dream for UConn is to join the Great Northwest Athletic Conference as the Yukon Huskies and become bitter rivals with Alaska. We can then airlift the entirety of Storrs to Whitehorse

Come on fellow BYers, you know you want it
 
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nelsonmuntz said:
People really struggle to differentiate between revenue and profit. Yes, football generates a lot more revenue.
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Some do but it's certainly not a struggle for Uconn and Benedict with 2 hoops coaches already at about $8.3 mil and $3.74 mil against a $6-7 mil Big East TV deal. ;)
 
cellocgg said:
My dream for UConn is to join the Great Northwest Athletic Conference as the Yukon Huskies and become bitter rivals with Alaska. We can then airlift the entirety of Storrs to Whitehorse

Come on fellow BYers, you know you want it
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That'd be beauty eh?

GWN.jpg
 
nelsonmuntz said:
If the Big 12, ACC and Big East, and Big 10 for that matter, are not panicking a little and getting very creative, they are making a fatal mistake.

The SEC could add USC, Oregon, Ohio State and Michigan, and it would be the P1.
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I’d really like to know where you got those drugs.
 
Bongo Fury said:
Don’t hate the BE but it seems to get less relevant on the national stage and with the media every year.
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It’s been on a downward slide for a while now, with the gradient steepening by the month. Have you been to a Seton Hall - Providence or St John’s game lately? There’s empty seats all over the place. Student participation is laughable.
 
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freescooter said:
That is how YOU see the choice. I think we need to do whatever is necessary to get into the ACC or the B12. I think those are viable options. If there is a way to get into the B10, we should do that, too though I can’t see how that would happen.

I don’t think the Big East is viable as a major conference much longer. 3 bids last year. If we only get 3 this year it will be telling. Then I’m Not sure it is one now. And if you tell the truth, you think that is a real possibility too. Otherwise the idea of merging the ACC and NBE wouldn’t enter your mind.

And in fact my idea had been to merge the NBE and WCC basketball only leagues as a way to bring Gonzaga into the fold and extend the reach of the conference for media purposes with an East and West division. Now Gonzaga is out so that plan probably doesn’t make sense any longer unless someone else emerges from that league.
So tell me which of the recent mergers you have seen that were basketball onlies into football leagues. You imply they have occurred. Other than Gonzaga to the P12 I haven’t seen any.
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cellocgg said:


These are the kinds of programs the Big East diehards apparently want us to be associated with. Maybe we'll be able to afford our own social media intern!
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Ouch!
 
nelsonmuntz said:
If the Big 12, Big Ten and ACC were options right now, we would already be in one of those leagues.

What part of this do Big East Haters have so much trouble getting their hands around?
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Not crazy about the attitude but I agree with you...
 
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