Big 12 and ACC are fumbling with their expansion apprehensiveness? They will become 2nd class BBall citizens as well if they continue.

[cellocgg]

This thread is off the rails.

The future of any athletic department is primarily dictated through their football program. We can like it or we can hate it, but we have to accept it. UConn football isn't going away. In fact, in Dave Benedict's own words, it's time to "double down".

The Big East is a short-term home. We know it. They know it. Schools like Georgetown and Villanova will never invest in big time football (one could argue they are struggling to invest in basketball too).

The very moment that either the Big12 or ACC realize the immense value we bring, we're gone...

Just to add on to this, North Carolina, a program undoubtedly larger than ours but with a similar athletic stature, said that they hired Bill Belichick not because they wanted to, but because they had to in the current athletics landscape

 

[CONN78SEJ]

Is this your argument for the AAC?

They would take us back for free. Lol. Only problem is it would hurt basketball. So that’s not happening. Only options are the Big 12, Big Ten, or the ACC. At least the AAC supports women’s college sports to a respectable degree. I’m just waiting for the day when St John’s announces they will no longer support women’s college athletics. Only way they continue supporting women’s programs is if Pitino donates half his salary to the athletic dept.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

They would take us back for free. Lol. Only problem is it would hurt basketball. So that’s not happening. Only options are the Big 12, Big Ten, or the ACC. At least the AAC supports women’s college sports to a respectable degree. I’m just waiting for the day when St John’s announces they will no longer support women’s college athletics. Only way they continue supporting women’s programs is if Pitino donates half his salary to the athletic dept.

If the Big 12, Big Ten and ACC were options right now, we would already be in one of those leagues.

What part of this do Big East Haters have so much trouble getting their hands around?

 

[Bongo Fury]

Don’t hate the BE but it seems to get less relevant on the national stage and with the media every year.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

No future seasons are what I'm talkin' about and where the pro model of college sports is going...#facts. $$$... And I like the BE too, just don't see it being able to keep up in any way with the P-4, who will literally be buying players/talent the BE can't.

People really struggle to differentiate between revenue and profit. Yes, football generates a lot more revenue. It also costs a S***LOAD more to run. Do people ever wonder why there are so many more D1 basketball programs than football programs?

When schools start paying players, there will be maybe 20-30 profitable football programs in the nation, and some of the biggest money losers will be in the biggest conferences.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

They would take us back for free. Lol. Only problem is it would hurt basketball. So that’s not happening. Only options are the Big 12, Big Ten, or the ACC. At least the AAC supports women’s college sports to a respectable degree. I’m just waiting for the day when St John’s announces they will no longer support women’s college athletics. Only way they continue supporting women’s programs is if Pitino donates half his salary to the athletic dept.

I respect the fact that at least you have the balls to say you want us back in the AAC, unlike the passive aggressive nonsense most of the other Big East Haters do.

 

[Stinger92860]

2024 NIL info....

Is this ranking based on NIL money spent this season for basketball only? That’s my guess.

 

[cellocgg]

My dream for UConn is to join the Great Northwest Athletic Conference as the Yukon Huskies and become bitter rivals with Alaska. We can then airlift the entirety of Storrs to Whitehorse

Come on fellow BYers, you know you want it

 

[BigTenFan]

Is this ranking based on NIL money spent this season for basketball only? That’s my guess.

The source is the NIL store. I believe it's all sports- Marquette seems like an outlier.

 

[Blades]

People really struggle to differentiate between revenue and profit. Yes, football generates a lot more revenue.

Some do but it's certainly not a struggle for Uconn and Benedict with 2 hoops coaches already at about $8.3 mil and $3.74 mil against a $6-7 mil Big East TV deal.

 

[RioDog]

My dream for UConn is to join the Great Northwest Athletic Conference as the Yukon Huskies and become bitter rivals with Alaska. We can then airlift the entirety of Storrs to Whitehorse

Come on fellow BYers, you know you want it

That'd be beauty eh?

 

[Hondo 77]

Genuine question: will SMU ever receive a full share?

Or will they be gone?

 

[Hondo 77]

If the Big 12, ACC and Big East, and Big 10 for that matter, are not panicking a little and getting very creative, they are making a fatal mistake.

The SEC could add USC, Oregon, Ohio State and Michigan, and it would be the P1.

I’d really like to know where you got those drugs.

 

[Hondo 77]

You complain endlessly about the Big East, which means that you must want UConn back in the AAC. Those are the two choices.

No one wants to be in the AAC.

 

[CONN78SEJ]

Don’t hate the BE but it seems to get less relevant on the national stage and with the media every year.

It’s been on a downward slide for a while now, with the gradient steepening by the month. Have you been to a Seton Hall - Providence or St John’s game lately? There’s empty seats all over the place. Student participation is laughable.

 

[CTFAN4LIFE]

People really struggle to differentiate between revenue and profit. Yes, football generates a lot more revenue. It also costs a S***LOAD more to run. Do people ever wonder why there are so many more D1 basketball programs than football programs?

When schools start paying players, there will be maybe 20-30 profitable football programs in the nation, and some of the biggest money losers will be in the biggest conferences.

And most people tend to ignore the fact that while almost all FBS universities lose money within their AD's (and have for decades), they all view it as more than just an AD P&L. Why? Because the AD provides "advertising" and student/alumni satisfaction that leads to donations, student applications, sponsorship revenues, etc etc that far outweigh the AD losses. People need to consider the bigger picture.

 

[John]

No one wants to be in the AAC.

@nelsonmuntz does, he keeps mentioning it as a viable alternative.

 

[freescooter]

That is how YOU see the choice. I think we need to do whatever is necessary to get into the ACC or the B12. I think those are viable options. If there is a way to get into the B10, we should do that, too though I can’t see how that would happen.

I don’t think the Big East is viable as a major conference much longer. 3 bids last year. If we only get 3 this year it will be telling. Then I’m Not sure it is one now. And if you tell the truth, you think that is a real possibility too. Otherwise the idea of merging the ACC and NBE wouldn’t enter your mind.

And in fact my idea had been to merge the NBE and WCC basketball only leagues as a way to bring Gonzaga into the fold and extend the reach of the conference for media purposes with an East and West division. Now Gonzaga is out so that plan probably doesn’t make sense any longer unless someone else emerges from that league.
So tell me which of the recent mergers you have seen that were basketball onlies into football leagues. You imply they have occurred. Other than Gonzaga to the P12 I haven’t seen any.

These are the kinds of programs the Big East diehards apparently want us to be associated with. Maybe we'll be able to afford our own social media intern!

Ouch!

 

[freescooter]

Fundamentally Nelson is a basketball only fan and a big east fanboy. If he could come up with a plan where UConn would drop every sport except men’s basketball he’d do it

 

[Ha Who]

Ouch

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Fundamentally Nelson is a basketball only fan and a big east fanboy. If he could come up with a plan where UConn would drop every sport except men’s basketball he’d do it

I give this post a Troll Grade of F.

 

[Rondogg]

If the Big 12, Big Ten and ACC were options right now, we would already be in one of those leagues.

What part of this do Big East Haters have so much trouble getting their hands around?

Not crazy about the attitude but I agree with you...

 

[CTFaninCali]

If the Big 12, Big Ten and ACC were options right now, we would already be in one of those leagues.

What part of this do Big East Haters have so much trouble getting their hands around?

I’m having an impossible time following your arguments in this thread. Instead of accepting that people can hold two thoughts at once (we obviously don’t an offfer for those league; the BE is on a slide on the court and in perception), you accuse folks of wanting in the AAC. Why?

 

[UDann]

My dream for UConn is to join the Great Northwest Athletic Conference as the Yukon Huskies and become bitter rivals with Alaska. We can then airlift the entirety of Storrs to Whitehorse

Come on fellow BYers, you know you want it

Whitehorse is in Canada not sure we could still be in the NCAA

 

[nelsonmuntz]

I’m having an impossible time following your arguments in this thread. Instead of accepting that people can hold two thoughts at once (we obviously don’t an offfer for those league; the BE is on a slide on the court and in perception), you accuse folks of wanting in the AAC. Why?

I don't agree that the Big East is sliding. It is having a down year. Now the P2 may be pulling away from everyone else, but if you define that as the Big East sliding, then the other two leagues that are even long-shot candidates for UConn membership, the Big 12 and ACC, are also sliding.

People makes choices from among the options available. UConn's options were the AAC and Big East, and UConn made the right choice by going to the Big East. There are no other choices for UConn, at least not right now. Endless complaining about not being in a league that we have no path to get into is like going into your office and telling your boss that your company sucks because you would rather be the Head of Trading at Goldman Sachs. That is not one of most people's options, so why bother complaining about it?

The endless Big East bashing is pointless. There is nothing we can do about it, and UConn's athletic department's future success is 100% dependent on the Big East succeeding enough to get us into some other league. Crapping on something that is not fixable is not insight or "keeping it real" it is being an *$%hole.