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8893 said:
We could have Zoom happy hours with them at a virtual Ted’s.
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That could capture when they start turning the lights on and off after last call, but not the smell when they started dumping ammonia (or whatever it was) all over the place.
 
freescooter said:
Well not exactly. They live play and practice in Connecticut. And even occasionally meet other students. But in a bubble in Omaha? Team B.
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And the Celtics live, play and practice in Boston. And even occasionally meet other professional athletes. But now they're playing in a bubble for a few months. What's your point?

Yes, we all realize the paradox of college teams playing in a bubble. But give me that over no college basketball tournament 100 out of 100 times. It's no more than a month for any teams. It's not like they're going to do that every year. And maybe Kentucky will play Louisville in the final. They wouldn't be missing anything since neither teams' players go to class or mix with any other students anyway.
 
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freescooter said:
It makes a total mockery of COLLEGE basketball. Awful precedent and in a bubble in Omaha how pray tell is Team B UConn? They don’t play at UConn. They don’t practice at UConn. They don’t live at UConn. UConn students don’t attend the games. They don’t meet or hang out at UConn. They are just team B in this awful bubble. And for all intents and purposes they are the G-league
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You are just choking out those poor pearls

Take a Xanax buttercup
 
We talk basketball in the bubble but if their grades improve and they are able to learn more (academically), then that means its a win/win, even for players on losing teams.

Just saying something good can come out of this off the court in years ahead for a lot of players, particularly those vulnerable to distractions. I just always like to celebrate a student athlete's diploma more than their total number of baskets, rebounds or assists.
 
Rocktheworld said:
You are just choking out those poor pearls

Take a Xanax buttercup
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I know there's a history here, but it is allowable to have an opinion about this particular issue and reasonable to expect people to evaluate the opinion, ironically enough, in a vacuum.

I strongly believe college football players, who have always been physical flotsam should not be isolated & forced to play that game in any kind of bubble and the conferences that cancelled seasons are far better serving their players & students versus schools/teams trying to play.

It is also possible to selfishly want there to be a college basketball season (like I do) and at the same time understand that this is what's best for ME which should not be the priority when it is other people's lives that are impacted. And some of the things we like best about CBB would be missing in a bubble, that is a fact that might make the product less desirable for some. I still hope they play and will be bummed (but understanding) if they don't, whether they play is not going to come down to who wins the bickering amongst UConn fans.
 
businesslawyer said:
You think there is a chance they are going to be playing in CT in a packed indoor arena? I didn't consider that because there is little chance of that. Not until we have a vaccine or herd immunity.

If you want to see UConn play this season, you better hope they do it in empty arenas.
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I hope they can pipe some noise in for the players. I like the NBA games because there is a clear crowd reaction on our end. I hope college players get spoon fed some atmosphere so the games still have energy.
 
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Dogdeacon said:
I know there's a history here, but it is allowable to have an opinion about this particular issue and reasonable to expect people to evaluate the opinion, ironically enough, in a vacuum.

I strongly believe college football players, who have always been physical flotsam should not be isolated & forced to play that game in any kind of bubble and the conferences that cancelled seasons are far better serving their players & students versus schools/teams trying to play.

It is also possible to selfishly want there to be a college basketball season (like I do) and at the same time understand that this is what's best for ME which should not be the priority when it is other people's lives that are impacted. And some of the things we like best about CBB would be missing in a bubble, that is a fact that might make the product less desirable for some. I still hope they play and will be bummed (but understanding) if they don't, whether they play is not going to come down to who wins the bickering amongst UConn fans.
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This is the Boneyard. Get that nuance outta here!
 
HooperScooper said:
And the Celtics live, play and practice in Boston. And even occasionally meet other professional athletes. But now they're playing in a bubble for a few months. What's your point?

Yes, we all realize the paradox of college teams playing in a bubble. But give me that over no college basketball tournament 100 out of 100 times. It's no more than a month for any teams. It's not like they're going to do that every year. And maybe Kentucky will play Louisville in the final. They wouldn't be missing anything since neither teams' players go to class or mix with any other students anyway.
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They are not a COLLEGE team. Pros are really a different animal.
 
freescooter said:
They are not a COLLEGE team. Pros are really a different animal.
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You're not following me. My point before was that college basketball and football has pretty much been professional sports for a long time. Playing in a bubble for 2-3 weeks isn't going to change that for the better or worse. So just take the gift of that 2-3 weeks and you can still complain that college sports is basically professional sports after the tournament is over.
 
HooperScooper said:
And the Celtics live, play and practice in Boston. And even occasionally meet other professional athletes. But now they're playing in a bubble for a few months. What's your point?

Yes, we all realize the paradox of college teams playing in a bubble. But give me that over no college basketball tournament 100 out of 100 times. It's no more than a month for any teams. It's not like they're going to do that every year. And maybe Kentucky will play Louisville in the final. They wouldn't be missing anything since neither teams' players go to class or mix with any other students anyway.
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It's like he doesn't realize most kids are being educated in their bedrooms.
 
Hoophound said:
I hope they can pipe some noise in for the players. I like the NBA games because there is a clear crowd reaction on our end. I hope college players get spoon fed some atmosphere so the games still have energy.
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Maybe they can do cut out fans too! Or like that Korean (?) baseball team they can put blow up dolls in the seats. It is an awful idea which is being done for the money. Not for the players. Certainly not for the schools in any way other than financial. Not for 5he students. There is an old saying that just because you can do something it doesn’t mean you should. That absolutely applies to this bubble idea. Go Team B!
 
superjohn said:
It's like he doesn't realize most kids are being educated in their bedrooms.
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No John. That is a reason why this is dumb. No students on campus. But we force a bunch of college kids to live in a bubble in Omaha for our entertainment. Oh, and so the NCAA can collect its check from CBS. And I’m just guessing but I bet leagues like the MEAC, NEC, you know, the 16 seed leagues, won’t bubble their teams.
 
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freescooter said:
No John. That is a reason why this is dumb. No students on campus. But we force a bunch of college kids to live in a bubble in Omaha for our entertainment. Oh, and so the NCAA can collect its check from CBS. And I’m just guessing but I bet leagues like the MEAC, NEC, you know, the 16 seed leagues, won’t bubble their teams.
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You pick the dumbest hills to die on and you're always wrong. Of course there's students on campus and nobody is being forced to do anything, the kids want to play.
 
Hoophound said:
I hope they can pipe some noise in for the players. I like the NBA games because there is a clear crowd reaction on our end. I hope college players get spoon fed some atmosphere so the games still have energy.
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A recording of the 'left right left' chant for when an opposing player gets tossed!
 


I feel like each day there are more candidates for non-conference bubbles coming out. On my count there's Mohegan in CT, Washington DC for mid-Atlantic, Sioux Falls for midwest...keep them coming!!!
 
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The "Golden Window" sounds like a bad 1960's era skin flick with some dude talking like Jimmy Stewart while watching shenanigans next door.
 
Who Ha said:
Sorry if this was already posted

www.courant.com

A college basketball bubble in Connecticut? Mohegan Sun could be a host with a lot to offer, and here’s why

As the planned starting date for men’s and women’s college basketball draws near, momentum is building to find a way, despite the pandemic, to get it started in November or early Decemb…
www.courant.com www.courant.com
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I like the concept of using the hotel rooms and getting people involved working. Similar to how some colleges have booked hotels to allow students to be together with private hygiene. Smart & adaptive.
 
superjohn said:
You pick the dumbest hills to die on and you're always wrong. Of course there's students on campus and nobody is being forced to do anything, the kids want to play.
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Hmmm, somebody should call UNC NC State, Michigan State, Notre Dame, Minnesota. All have either sent students home or delayed allowing them back. But don’t let facts get in the way of that big game with Creighton.

As to forcing, how many players are willing to stand up to their coach do you think? You know, the guy who can play them or not or even take their scholarship? Finally, once again, the judgement of 18-21 year old men has never been questioned. They are universally known for their wise judgement...oh wait! They aren’t. I know its science, and you prefer magical thinking, but people in that age group are more likely to be reactive in their decision making, less able to consider the consequences of decisions, and more susceptible to peer pressure, particularly in stressful situations, you know, like trying to decide what to do in a pandemic. They are also less likely to delay gratification, make decisions based on impulse, and make decisions based on excitement or perceived risk. It has to do with brain development. But hey, Adams wanted to ride a scooter. Bouknight wanted to drive a car and not have to deal with the cops when he hit a sign post. But sure, let’s rely on their judgement.
 
freescooter said:
Hmmm, somebody should call UNC NC State, Michigan State, Notre Dame, Minnesota. All have either sent students home or delayed allowing them back. But don’t let facts get in the way of that big game with Creighton.
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And on the other hand:

www.boston.com

Test results: Just 1 in 1,000 college students are positive for COVID-19 in and around Mass.

Of the approximately 400,000 coronavirus tests it has processed for area colleges, the Broad Institute research center of M.I.T. and Harvard has found that less than one in 1,000 college students has tested positive for the virus in Massachusetts and in nearby states, the Cambridge-based...
www.boston.com

Not that I'm all for just opening every school without precautions and restrictions, but I'm being devil's advocate here just to be difficult because many of your posts are so freaking annoying.
 
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freescooter said:
Hmmm, somebody should call UNC NC State, Michigan State, Notre Dame, Minnesota. All have either sent students home or delayed allowing them back. But don’t let facts get in the way of that big game with Creighton.

As to forcing, how many players are willing to stand up to their coach do you think? You know, the guy who can play them or not or even take their scholarship? Finally, once again, the judgement of 18-21 year old men has never been questioned. They are universally known for their wise judgement...oh wait! They aren’t. I know its science, and you prefer magical thinking, but people in that age group are more likely to be reactive in their decision making, less able to consider the consequences of decisions, and more susceptible to peer pressure, particularly in stressful situations, you know, like trying to decide what to do in a pandemic. They are also less likely to delay gratification, make decisions based on impulse, and make decisions based on excitement or perceived risk. It has to do with brain development. But hey, Adams wanted to ride a scooter. Bouknight wanted to drive a car and not have to deal with the cops when he hit a sign post. But sure, let’s rely on their judgement.
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If you're lying or really just don't know there's kids on campus there's no reason to discuss this further...Just when I think your posts can't get any worse you trash the best player on our team and trash a former player.
 
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Where did people get this idea that players are being forced into this bubble? If you had career aspirations in anything and had a chance to make a lot of money soon, would you say no I’d rather take a year off than further yourself in your career? I highly doubt it. As you can see with college football a few kids are sitting out with no penalty, so they still have that choice should they choose to take it/feels it’s not worth the risk. Also if your argument is because the amauerism aspect is lost, lolololol
 
“You could fit four courts down there and really churn through a lot of games,” Martinelli said of the Expo Center. “This bubble option gives you an alternative, a more efficient way to fill out your non-conference schedule.”

AAU style with 4 games going on at the same time.

www.ctinsider.com

Mohegan Sun open to hosting a college basketball bubble

As both men’s and women’s basketball teams continue to navigate scheduling during a...
www.ctinsider.com www.ctinsider.com

For those without Register access: Mohegan Sun open to hosting a college basketball bubble
 
Jbirdp5 said:
Where did people get this idea that players are being forced into this bubble? If you had career aspirations in anything and had a chance to make a lot of money soon, would you say no I’d rather take a year off than further yourself in your career? I highly doubt it. As you can see with college football a few kids are sitting out with no penalty, so they still have that choice should they choose to take it/feels it’s not worth the risk. Also if your argument is because the amauerism aspect is lost, lolololol
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I think there are better reasons to do limited bubbles than nba career aspirations. If that's your primary goal and best rationale, you need to take the top 100 prospects and put them in a bubble and pay them for it.
 
krinklecut said:


We need to cancel sports for 2020-21. We're just now learning the long term effects of COVID on even asymptomatic carriers. This is very, very not good.
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Unfortunately, for your piece of mind, you may have to go into your own personal bubble. No Internet, no TV, no contact with the outside world whatsoever. Someone can slide food under your door. See Ya Next Year!!
 
UCSouth said:
Unfortunately, for your piece of mind, you may have to go into your own personal bubble. No Internet, no TV, no contact with the outside world whatsoever. Someone can slide food under your door. See Ya Next Year!!
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I'm less concerned with my piece of my mind and more concerned with the health and safety of me, my family, and my neighbors, but...good one? Feel free to block me and you don't have to see me next year, either.
 
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