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If I were Herbst and wanted to keep this under wraps I fly out of Westchester. At least 4-5 daily direct flights to Chicago...and since it is on CT border doesn't raise any flags travel wise...she can be "heading to a meeting with potential donors in Greenwich"
 
B1G East, B1G West. Conference tourneys in Chicago and NYC, with the winner of both to play in NYC.
 
GT, Miami, FSU, Clemson, Pitt, NC State to B12
NC and VT to SEC
UVa. and Duke to B10
Pac12 twiddles its thumbs

UConn, BC, Louisville, Syracuse, Wake Forest, Temple, USF and then 3 of Houston, SMU, UCF, Memphis, East Carolina.
 
More tweets from our fav little birdie:

"Fox wants ND. The Big10 wants ND. If they go to 20 it will only be if ND were a part of that. I have so much more to share very soon now."
"I can tell you at this point 16 going to be a problem for BiG. It's at least 18 to get certain schools."
"What might hurt the B12 is that FSU has submitted a five year plan to get AAU status to Delaney and co"

On that last one, I hope like hell UConn has done the same... But with a 3 year plan. :)
 
More tweets from our fav little birdie:

"Fox wants ND. The Big10 wants ND. If they go to 20 it will only be if ND were a part of that. I have so much more to share very soon now."
"I can tell you at this point 16 going to be a problem for BiG. It's at least 18 to get certain schools."
"What might hurt the B12 is that FSU has submitted a five year plan to get AAU status to Delaney and co"

On that last one, I hope like hell UConn has done the same... But with a 3 year plan. :)

They submitted a 5 year plan to Delany.

Delany's bosses are the ones meanwhile who make the decisions about AAU admits.

And the last member they admitted was being tossed out of the AAU on its ear concomitantly with its B1G admittance.

It's like sending your plan to join the country club to the maitre' D!
 
20 teams would be a game changer

O.K., I'll play. If the Big Ten is going to 20:

1. I assume they don't go after Mizzou or Kansas. Just too much trouble getting them out of where they are with too little reward, which means it's entirely to move along the East Coast.

2. Two ten team divisions. Ohio State and Penn State join the eight newbies (including RU and Md in that). You have a clean geographic break, and keep Michigan and Ohio State in seperate conferences.

3. I assume no Notre Dame, but really, who knows. Obviously, the Irish can join if they want to.

4. So that leaves six more slots, with the goal being to dominate the Northeast in a way that makes the sport more popular in the Northeast, and then go as far down south as you can add viable markets without just wasting energy fighting the SEC. Under that scenario, I think you start with Syracuse, UConn, UVA and UNC. You then take two more from any of BC, Pitt, Duke, Georgia Tech or Miami. All good academic schools, the Big Ten becomes a dominant #1 in hoops, can make some TV money in chicks hoops and, if they take BC, hockey, and become the only football conference that counts from the industrial midwest through the Northeast and down into Tobacco Road (and maybe with a jump to SoFla which is a different market than the rest of the state). If ND wants in, I'm less certain of us but there is still room. I certainly think, for example, that we give the Big Ten more that fits their model than our other Northeast competitors (but I've thought that before and been wrong). But I do believe that, for Delaney to do this and not dilute the revenue to the core midwestern schools, he needs to build CFB in New York and that means both us and Syracuse should be joining RU so the midwestern teams play in greater NY more often.
 
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uconn athletic revenues are around $65M... Does that get close to $100M with an invite to the ACC or Big10?
 
They submitted a 5 year plan to Delany.

Delany's bosses are the ones meanwhile who make the decisions about AAU admits.

And the last member they admitted was being tossed out of the AAU on its ear concomitantly with its B1G admittance.

It's like sending your plan to join the country club to the maitre' D!

So on the WVU site this guy is saying he will have big rumors tonight. Any guesses as to what they could be? Keep in mind that whatever he says must be vague enough so that when it doesn't happen we can't say he was wrong.

My guesses are: "B1G to add ND but only if XXXXX" or
"B1G to go to 20 teams and ACC/BE are not the target"
 
So on the WVU site this guy is saying he will have big rumors tonight. Any guesses as to what they could be? Keep in mind that whatever he says must be vague enough so that when it doesn't happen we can't say he was wrong.

My guesses are: "B1G to add ND but only if XXXXX" or
"B1G to go to 20 teams and ACC/BE are not the target"

"B1G expansion plans consider a 'surprise' target."
 
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Is TuxedoYoda's east coast journalist just MHV3's WVU Board post? On a scale of 1-BS where does Tuxedo rank? I don't typically see him spouting off as much as the dude and MH?

If Groovy dosen't say it I don't believe it. Although I'm a little dissapointed Groovy interacted with CTMike, that kills it for me.
 
Sweet Jebus.
This thread pulled out of the human migration patterns and water rights nose dive of earlier this week to something quite interesting for the upcoming week.
But like everything so far, I will just sit back and wait until something happens....
 
I saw someone post earlier the KU, UNC, UVA, UConn rumor. I hadn't considered it a viable option, but in rethinking it...

If it is to be B18 and ND isn't going, then this looks pretty good if you want new markets with large populations, that are state U's, are pretty damn good at BB and are serviceable enough at FB.

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The only reason I leave a shadow of a doubt open for any of this is that I believe the SEC might eventually want to grab UNC and Duke.

That's reason enough for the B1G to swoop in now rather than wait.
 
99% of Maryland's and Rutgers's administrations and boards had no idea of the Big Ten's interest until they read it on the ESPN ticker.

Yet supposedly there's this secret meeting coming up that involves some unnamed participants, and one of them supposedly thought, "Secret meeting? Hold on, hold on... let's call MH-ver-3 and give him the sneak tip..."

Right.

I can't speak for Rutgers, but insidemdsports' premium board followed Big Ten realignment closely since 2010 when the Terps were first mentioned as an option for the Big Ten. Subscribers knew Maryland was moving to the Big Ten about 7 days before it actually happened (about 6 days before the national media even got wind of it) . I'm not saying this guy's info is good. I'm just saying if there are meetings, someone is bound to say something to someone.
 
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I can't speak for Rutgers, but insidemdsports' premium board followed Big Ten realignment closely since 2010 when the Terps were first mentioned as an option for the Big Ten. Subscribers knew Maryland was moving to the Big Ten about 7 days before it actually happened (about 6 days before the national media even got wind of it) . I'm not saying this guy's info is good. I'm just saying if there are meetings, someone is bound to say something to someone.

Welcome to the board "Bingethinker". Your first post is on the conference realignment board and is about the Big Ten. You must be an insider. What else can you share with us?
 
Welcome to the board "Bingethinker". Your first post is on the conference realignment board and is about the Big Ten. You must be an insider. What else can you share with us?

Thanks for the welcome. Not really an "insider". I'm just particularly interested in conference expansion and college athletics administration in general. I'm a Maryland alum and fan and I've lurked on this board for quite some time.

Specifically regarding the Big Ten, aside from my being ECSTATIC that we're out of the bush league ACC, I haven't heard anything new to report. At least not anything that you guys haven't already been discussing here. Pretty much everything that I've been reading indicates that the holding pattern will continue until the ACC-Maryland suit is resolved. We've no clue about the timeline for that, but no one (not even the fine folks at the Wake Forest Law Review) believes Maryland will be paying anywhere near $50M. We anticipate our exit fee will be somewhere around $25M...and that's on the higher end. Though I totally get why it had to move so quickly, the ACC really didn't help its legal cause by not skipping a beat (at least in the very short term) by adding Louisville so quickly. Time will tell.

One thing I can dispel is the notion that was raised in the "Something's Up" thread that Maryland's 2013 entry into the CIC could indicate that we're moving to the Big Ten a year early. That is absolutely not going to happen.
 
Can someone please explain to me why BC is constantly talked about as a candidate for the B1G? What exactly do they bring to the table besides hockey? Don't they meet zero of the B1G's supposed criteria?
 
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Can someone please explain to me why BC is constantly talked about as a candidate for the B1G? What exactly do they bring to the table besides hockey? Don't they meet zero of the B1G's supposed criteria?

I can't explain it either, but Louisville met about 0.0 of the ACC's criteria, too.
 
Can someone please explain to me why BC is constantly talked about as a candidate for the B1G? What exactly do they bring to the table besides hockey? Don't they meet zero of the B1G's supposed criteria?

BC is a cheap whore, that will jump at the drop of a hat. If the BiG needs a third or fourth ACC team to get UNC to join, they serve that purpose.

I think in industry terms, BC is a fluffer.

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Can someone please explain to me why BC is constantly talked about as a candidate for the B1G? What exactly do they bring to the table besides hockey? Don't they meet zero of the B1G's supposed criteria?

Completely agree. BC doesn't fit any criteria of the B1G model, other than that they are located in Boston:

Market - located in Boston but do they carry the market? Absolutely not. They share it with the other colleges and universities in the area, plus professional sports, plus UConn and other New England schools that Boston follows.

AAU - No

Contiguous - No

Athletics - other than hockey, no. Football was above average until UConn entered the scene. Ever since UConn's move to Rentschler Field and the Big East, BC football has been a very insignificant program lost on an island (or cape). Basketball is horrendous...nothing further needed.

Public - No

Flagship - No...not even in their own CITY

BC makes absolutely no sense.
 
BC is a cheap whore, that will jump at the drop of a hat. If the BiG needs a third or fourth ACC team to get UNC to join, they serve that purpose.

I think in industry terms, BC is a fluffer.

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UConn would felch the B1G or ACC for an invite right about now.
 
Can someone please explain to me why BC is constantly talked about as a candidate for the B1G? What exactly do they bring to the table besides hockey? Don't they meet zero of the B1G's supposed criteria?

I agree. BC is not a research university (no medical center) and not a state flagship. The offer a football team built on one event, see Doug Flutie, that is at best as good as UConn with worse facilities. Their only real sport is Hockey as their basketball team has been horrible (they lost to Bryant!). They offer decent Olympic Sports; but, that means nothing right now. Boston is not a college market as it is dominated by the pro team and there are a lot of transplants bringing their own loyalties to the market, such as UConn and ND. I can only see the BiG wanting BC if they somehow bring ND; but, I can’t see ND being seen as needing anybody.
 
Thanks for the responses. So basically the rundown is:

1) big market which they carry less than Rutgers
2) hockey
3) some sort of lure for ND
4) some sort of lure for UNC

Talk about pipe dreams. Maybe I just don't understand all this, but I simply won't believe BC is a candidate for the B1G until I see a report of their invitation. And at that point, being wrong will be the least painful part.
 
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