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I actually don't know who coaches any Oklahoma team, or Oklahoma State for that matter. I know that they are good, but not great, in football and have tornadoes. That's about it.

Fair enough. Do you know any of the coaches in the Big 12?
 
You're wrong. 100% wrong. You're making a VERY uninformed statement based on assumptions/perception (the ACC may have a job for you on their CR selection committee). I've been in UConn's, tOSU's, and UM's in the past 3 years and UConn's is nicer and more modern by a mile (not talking about stadium, just the facilities and indoor practice field). Our current AD (former Michigan Man) has said as much upon his arrival a couple years ago. According to the NFL scouts who show up for practice and come to the pro days UConn's is one of the nicest and most impressive (Oregon's was pretty unanimously #1 from the scouts), on par or better than pretty much anything else out there.

Sounds like you already have the facilites necessary to compete if you are even close to what Oregon has.. So what would you say the program needs the most moving forward?
 
Sounds like you already have the facilites necessary to compete if you are even close to what Oregon has.. So what would you say the program needs the most moving forward?
Proper conference affiliation. Imagine Oklahoma State being in the C-USA.
 
He really does need to do research. if his same logic applied to basketball, he'd have to explain why the ACC gets $20m and the AAC only $2m, yet UConn was on ESPN, ESPN2 and CBS a total of 16 times, while some of the ACC teams that made the tournament were only on those national channels a total of 4 times.

With all due respect lets get real. The ACC people say the exact same thing. Trying to convince me that The AAC teams like SMU and Houston are going to have better exposure than OU. Temple is going to have better exposure than OU. In the future Tulsa will have better exposure than OU, this is by far the most laughable. Memphis will have better exposure than OU. I simply don't buy that. No amount of research will make me believe that is true because it simoply isn't. But if it makes you feel better then so be it. I know darn well that OSU does not get the same exosure as OU and have no problem admitting it. OU has some pretty amazing TV deals with Fox. Some of the deals these individual teams can get are simply amazing. I'm sure Uconn has a great deal for whatever media you have the rights to sell.
 
Proper conference affiliation. Imagine Oklahoma State being in the C-USA.

Misread the first time. my apologies.

We could get left behind of the Big 12 collapsed. I'd hope we could get in the AAC so we coudl play SMU, Houston, Tulsa, Tulane, Memphis as those are all somewhat regional games for fans to travel to.
 
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With all due respect lets get real. The ACC people say the exact same thing. Trying to convince me that The AAC teams like SMU and Houston are going to have better exposure than OU. Temple is going to have better exposure than OU. In the future Tulsa will have better exposure than OU, this is by far the most laughable. Memphis will have better exposure than OU. I simply don't buy that. No amount of research will make me believe that is true because it simoply isn't. But if it makes you feel better then so be it. I know darn well that OSU does not get the same exosure as OU and have no problem admitting it. OU has some pretty amazing TV deals with Fox. Some of the deals these individual teams can get are simply amazing. I'm sure Uconn has a great deal for whatever media you have the rights to sell.

It's already a reality. We saw it this year. UConn has no media rights to sell. The AAC has all our rights, and they sold all our rights to ESPN. ESPN then guarantees that UConn will be on nationally far more than we ever were in the BE, and we're on far more than any other teams in bball except for North Carolina (17 games), Duke & Kentucky (18 games). In football, every one of the games but the OOC against minnows will be televised nationally.
 
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It's already a reality. We saw it this year. UConn has no media rights to sell. The AAC has all our rights, and they sold all our rights to ESPN. ESPN then guarantees that UConn will be on nationally far more than we ever were in the BE, and we're on far more than any other teams in bball except for North Carolina (17 games), Duke & Kentucky (18 games). In football, every one of the games but the OOC against minnows will be televised nationally.
That sucks for UConn. Supporting all those less valuable programs. I would imagine UConn could make over 5 million just from the Tier 3 package the Big 12 gives you with FB, BB, and WBB games. On top of the conference payout.
 
Sounds like you already have the facilites necessary to compete if you are even close to what Oregon has.. So what would you say the program needs the most moving forward?
A gawd awful coaching hire set UConn way back. Most here are optimistic with Diaco we will get back to winning ways. Pre Pasqualoni we were winning BE titles, playing and winning bowl games, beating name schools, and played in a BCS bowl (in a pretty short time frame moving up to FBS level). The facilities weren't the problem.
 
This is a gem, says a lot about you. I have no need to insult you to make myself feel better so I won't stoop to your level. If you think OSU belongs with C-USA who knows, you might be right. We could get left behind of the Big 12 collapsed. I'd hope we could get in the AAC so we coudl play SMU, Houston, Tulsa, Tulane, Memphis as those are all somewhat regional games for fans to travel to.

Wow. You totally misread what he wrote.
 
That sucks for UConn. Supporting all those less valuable programs. I would imagine UConn could make over 5 million just from the Tier 3 package the Big 12 gives you with FB, BB, and WBB games. On top of the conference payout.

We'll never know. The women's bball program outdrew not only Syracuse men's bball, but they did so in NY. The SNY channel had all the packages and UConn bball was the most popular, they kick off the others head-to-head. UConn made $25 million a year in those licensing rights plus coaches shows, etc. But they lost 3rd tier rights in the new package. In return, UConn is now on national TV all the time. That seems to be the deal. We're on more than we ever were before, and have more exposure than the ACC teams. The contract guarantees that 90% of AAC football games will be on either ESPN, ESPN2 or ESPNU. Now, they could dump everything on U if they wanted, but last year they didn't do that. There were as many games on ESPN and 2.
 
Syracuse still just set the ESPN record for a regular season basketball game watched in NY. Of course they had Duke as an opponent.

UConn is indeed getting exposure and that has value. If Husky guys started thinking in the mind set of FSU guys, some angst might dissipate.

FSU guys are team fans but aren't really big conference fans, in the conference pride manner of the SEC. A conference is just a place to play.

All you can do is beat your schedule, look good when on the tube, use the exposure to build a reputation. Until a P5 expands, that is the best that can be done.

Many with work experience will recognize the strategy. Keeping oneself positioned for a promotion to the next level.
 
Syracuse still just set the ESPN record for a regular season basketball game watched in NY. Of course they had Duke as an opponent.

UConn is indeed getting exposure and that has value. If Husky guys started thinking in the mind set of FSU guys, some angst might dissipate.

FSU guys are team fans but aren't really big conference fans, in the conference pride manner of the SEC. A conference is just a place to play.

All you can do is beat your schedule, look good when on the tube, use the exposure to build a reputation. Until a P5 expands, that is the best that can be done.

Many with work experience will recognize the strategy. Keeping oneself positioned for a promotion to the next level.

Let me put this to you in simple terms: Syracuse basketball can't outdraw UConn women's basketball, never mind the men.

http://syracusefan.com/threads/looks-like-the-prov-game-will-be-tape-delayed.40752/

http://web.sny.tv/news/article.jsp?ymd=20130111&content_id=40929348&vkey=2
 
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"The ESPN Saturday Primetime Driven by State Farm telecast of then-No. 2 Syracuse defeating then-No. 17 Duke 91-89 in overtime on February 1 is the network’s third most-viewed regular-season men’s college basketball game on record, averaging 4,745,000 viewers."

http://espnmediazone.com/us/press-r...-duke-espns-third-viewed-regular-season-game/

"The game drew the highest shares in the North Carolina Triad and Research Triangle markets, and the telecast also set records in Buffalo (6.7 local rating) and New York City (2.8 rating) to rank as ESPN’s highest-rated regular-season men’s college hoops game in both markets (records date back to 2002."
 
You say SNY...I say ESPN....

Tomato potato....but for the ACC model, I have to go with ESPN....for the Big Ten model, maybe the SNY.
 
"The ESPN Saturday Primetime Driven by State Farm telecast of then-No. 2 Syracuse defeating then-No. 17 Duke 91-89 in overtime on February 1 is the network’s third most-viewed regular-season men’s college basketball game on record, averaging 4,745,000 viewers."

http://espnmediazone.com/us/press-r...-duke-espns-third-viewed-regular-season-game/

"The game drew the highest shares in the North Carolina Triad and Research Triangle markets, and the telecast also set records in Buffalo (6.7 local rating) and New York City (2.8 rating) to rank as ESPN’s highest-rated regular-season men’s college hoops game in both markets (records date back to 2002."

And? What's your point?
 
What was yours? To denigrate Syracuse?

I am no Cuse fan, but I just made the point that Syracuse did participate this season in one of the most watched basketball games..ever..on ESPN.
 
You say SNY...I say ESPN....

Tomato potato....but for the ACC model, I have to go with ESPN....for the Big Ten model, maybe the SNY.

Let me come down to Tallahassee and tell you what is most popular there (not FSU), would that make sense? After going to the BET for 15 straight years, I can tell you who holds the fort. You're mistaken, it's not what you think. Mike Tranghese made this point explicitly. He said Uconn is the team that stirs New York.

That undefeated Cuse played Duke in the most hyped matchup ever and got big ratings is no surprise. The real Q is what happens when Cuse plays a middling ACC team, and the answer is, they'll get bumped by UConn playing anyone, or heck the Uconn women.
 
What was yours? To denigrate Syracuse?

I am no Cuse fan, but I just made the point that Syracuse did participate this season in one of the most watched basketball games..ever..on ESPN.

You're doing nothing but trolling now. Your response to people pointing out the unbelievable demand for tickets at MSG (higher than the F4) is to post some nonsense about an ESPN rating of Cuse-Duke. Stop trolling.

Stop defending the big mistakes Swofford and FSU made when they locked UConn out, because UConn not only beats Syracuse in basketball, but also in football.

Look up UConn's record against Syracuse. UConn pushed that school aside in no time. And the reason why is simple. No one plays football within a 300 mile radius of Syracuse. Whereas the state of Connecticut actually produced more than 10 players who were drafted into the NFL in a single year recently.
 
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FSU did not "lock out" UConn for Syracuse...they pushed for Louisville after the Cuse addition (and this is internet conjecture since I have never seen it officially linked).

We have discussed, too much, the reasons why that made sense for the southern tier.
 
To troll means to post a truth that someone dislikes.

I guess we know nothing about UConn and New York, having been to the BET countless times over the years. That a women's game bumps a Syracuse BE game means nothing. You're simly impressed solely by the most overhyped bball game in history. That means everything to you.
 
FSU did not "lock out" UConn for Syracuse...they pushed for Louisville after the Cuse addition (and this is internet conjecture since I have never seen it officially linked).

We have discussed, too much, the reasons why that made sense for the southern tier.

Syracuse record against UConn football since UConn joined the BE: 2-6
 
It means what it means...that folks tuned in to watch the game.

And Duke was #17 at the time. But, it was probably Duke's national attraction.

I looked up the most watched games of the 2012-13 season, and three of the top five featured Duke, the other two featured Indiana.
 
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We'll never know. The women's bball program outdrew not only Syracuse men's bball, but they did so in NY. The SNY channel had all the packages and UConn bball was the most popular, they kick off the others head-to-head. UConn made $25 million a year in those licensing rights plus coaches shows, etc. But they lost 3rd tier rights in the new package. In return, UConn is now on national TV all the time. That seems to be the deal. We're on more than we ever were before, and have more exposure than the ACC teams. The contract guarantees that 90% of AAC football games will be on either ESPN, ESPN2 or ESPNU. Now, they could dump everything on U if they wanted, but last year they didn't do that. There were as many games on ESPN and 2.
So let me get this straight. You were getting 25 million a year for just your Tier 3, radio, coaches shows, etc... But now you get a few more games on TV and only get 2 million from your TV contract and you are happy about it. Do you still have any income from that 25 million # or is that all being shared with the AAC members now?
 
A gawd awful coaching hire set UConn way back. Most here are optimistic with Diaco we will get back to winning ways. Pre Pasqualoni we were winning BE titles, playing and winning bowl games, beating name schools, and played in a BCS bowl (in a pretty short time frame moving up to FBS level). The facilities weren't the problem.
Where did Diaco come from? I am not familiar with his past coaching positions for some reason.
 
Ok. I don't think they are among the best either.

There is no way that UConn has facilities as nice as tOSU, Wisconsin, Michigan, Oregon, Oklahoma, Texas, aTm, LSU, Bama, Georgia, Florida, Nebraska, etc. It's just not possible for any AAC team to have nicer FB facilities than the blue bloods of college football. These teams put 100k fans at every home game, and they get hundreds of millions of dollars in donations every year. Oklahoma State has nice facilities but I dont' claim that they are as good as those teams I mentioned either, they are close but not the same.


This is the type redneck, thinking that we are up against.

Okie lite,

Time for you to head down to Stuckeys and get another pecan log roll and some firecrackers.
 
Where did Diaco come from? I am not familiar with his past coaching positions for some reason.

Defensive Coordinator at Notre Dame. Was voted the top Defensive assistant in all of FBS two years ago and was 2nd place last year.

Edit: won Broyles award in 2012, and was finalist last year.
 
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It means what it means...that folks tuned in to watch the game.

And Duke was #17 at the time. But, it was probably Duke's national attraction.

I looked up the most watched games of the 2012-13 season, and three of the top five featured Duke, the other two featured Indiana.

ESPN hyped the holy hell out of that. The rivalry!!!!

What rivalry?
 
So let me get this straight. You were getting 25 million a year for just your Tier 3, radio, coaches shows, etc... But now you get a few more games on TV and only get 2 million from your TV contract and you are happy about it. Do you still have any income from that 25 million # or is that all being shared with the AAC members now?

That was licensing, ad revenues, etc., much of it associated with tier 3 programming, but including branding. The coaches shows are still there. I believe the contract with the producer (IMG) at base brings in $10m a year. SNY was also paying $2m a year outright just for the women's 3rd tier rights (yes, that money is now gone--ESPN is enjoying it instead of the school). So, there's no way to know what the coaches shows on SNY are going to draw since there are now fewer games (esp. men's bball) on SNY. That $25m will likely fall to anywhere between $15-22m I bet. Happy about it? Say what? You think UConn fans are happy about any of this?
 
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