Talk about someone that has no idea what they are talking about.
You apparently live in the world of message boards--and then have the gall to insult people from WVU.
Nope, I have a firm grip on reality, and, I also know folks who for certain know more about this topic than you or I do. My information comes straight from members of the Rams Club (UNC boosters). I am pretty sure that they would know infinitely more about UNC's situation and options going forward than you would. I guarantee it.
I doubt that you know anyone who knows anything about realignment based on the lunacy you've written about here
I did not insult folks from WV. I said WV had left itself out an island. That opinion is not just held by me.
This from the fan of a league with a school on an island in the western Boston suburbs, western NY up state, western PA, soon western KY, Miami, etc.
A bit thin-skinned, aren't you?
It would appear you are a bit thin skinned since every fact about the ACC is an offense to you.
No ACC schools other than Maryland had or now have an offer to go anywhere. Schools can't join conferences because they want to.
Initial offers are not made publically, dude. University and conference leaders have to show extremely high levels of tact and discretion where those situations were concerned. By the time the general public know whats going on, the deal is done. Just like it was with Maryland.
And where did I state initial offers are made publically "dude"? Oh that's right, I did not ever make such a claim. Actually, many moves are made public long before they happen. A&M and Missouri were no secret and there were certainly rumors about Nebraska and WVU before they received official invites as well.
If you honestly believe that UNC-UVA could not join either of those leagues tomorrow by making a simple phone call, them theres nothing I can tell you.
I stated that UNC and UVA would have to approach leagues in order to receive an invitation.
No, FSU didn't have an offer to go anywhere, some of their leaders were interested in hearing what the BIG 12 could offer them, the BIG 12 never offered them anything.
There was never any indication from the BIG 12 that they would be interested in FSU, and certainly not that they'd be interested in Clemson. There were rumors on message boards and nothing more.
I stand corrected here. You are absolutely right. FSU never had an actual offer. There was some general communications between the two, but, that was as far as it went.
UNC and UVA have no standing offers from anywhere. Both the Big Ten and the SEC and also the BIG 12 require schools to approach them for membership. I seriously doubt either Mike Slive or Jim Delaney has spoken to anyone at these schools or others on expansion--that wouldn't happen until those schools were seriously considering switching conferences and had signed non disclosure agreements. Prior to that there are informal talks at a lower level.
Again, people in the know at Carolina say a whole lot different. I'll take their word for it over yours anyday.
You don't know any people that know anything as far as I can tell based on your statements to this point. I won't take your word about anything based on your previous ridiculous statements.
What is ridiculous here is you continuing to misquote me and assign statements to me that I didn't make.
Exactly where did I misquote you, or, assign statements to you? Do you mean the 'anti-ACC narrative' comment?
I said that ACC schools signed off on the increased buyout because at the time no one had offers to go anywhere, but they knew some schools were seriously considering moving such as FSU and Maryland and they didn't want them to go--especially FSU.
And, that POV is incorrect.
No, it isn't a point of view at all. It is exactly what happened. Schools in the ACC didn't want their bread and butter walking out the door, so they voted to increase the buyout to a ridiculous amount so that it would be financially impossible virtually. Unfortunately for them Maryland still left.
I am obviously wasting my time discussing this with you. If you truly believe that nobody in the ACC had offers to go elsewhere when the GOR was signed, well, go right ahead.
If schools in the ACC had offers to go elsewhere--leagues where they could make $100 million or more than in the ACC within just a few years, then those schools would be gone. Look, we have emails from UNC--not your mythical "people in the know", discussing the situation of what actually happened there. We have quotes in the news from FSU, statements from leaders at other ACC schools about their concerns of losing schools or the need for them to keep options open. Statements from the commissioner himself that the league could lose more schools--and you delusional ACC fans want everyone to believe none of this ever happened? Learn to deal with reality.
FSU is obviously a school that would be attractive in multiple conferences, and they drive the financial bus for the ACC's tv deals. If the league loses them then the league will be in big trouble.
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