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DefenseBB said:
Let's look at the "big picture"-there are 5 sports that required the 1 year in residency, Men's and Women's basketball, Football, Men's Ice Hockey and Baseball. All the other sports allow student athletes to transfer without exception. As the residency had been so restrictive and with the extra year of eligibility granted, there is a flood gate for the two main sports of Men's and Women's basketball. I haven't seen the numbers for football but do suspect that is less due to less D1 men's teams. I suspect it will subside a bit after next year.

The problem I have is what to do with a student who plays for a school, transfers, plays for another school, gets hurt, sits a year (or just sits a year due the current transfer rule), graduates and then transfers again to a 3rd school for a year. I think after the second school, all transfers should have to sit a year even if you did graduate as that next "goal" of grad school is to be considered for your educational effort, not a free ride to play. Dorka would qualify to play as she had not transferred previously, however Anastasia Hayes from Tennessee to Middle Tennessee to Mississippi State should have to sit a year. In other words, you get 1 free pass but after that, you must sit.

That would severely limit all these excessive transfers and show more integrity for the "grad student" transfer.
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I’m not sure if the rules have changed, but when I transferred to DePaul in tennis, I wasn’t just able to transfer and play. My previous school had to sign off on it. Otherwise I would have had to sit out a year.
 
Shmermerer said:
I’m not sure if the rules have changed, but when I transferred to DePaul in tennis, I wasn’t just able to transfer and play. My previous school had to sign off on it. Otherwise I would have had to sit out a year.
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Where did you transfer from? There are different "conference" rules regarding transfers. The sit out year is also only applicable to a few sports Football, Men's and Women's basketball. I don't recall Tennis being one of those sports.
 
donalddoowop said:
Volleyball players don't have to sit a year when they transfer and it has not hurt their game. Why should it be different with basketball players? If they want to transfer let them transfer.
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Do volleyball players do a lot of transferring?
 
Gamecockfan77 said:
Do volleyball players do a lot of transferring?
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Yes.

And there have been some barriers to transfers within conference (mandatory 1-year sit outs, for example), though those, too, have been inconsistently waived. Now we're seeing conferences do away with those policies.
 
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Oregon likely to hold with current roster for ‘21-‘22 per Kelly Graves interview with Erik Scopil, 247 Sports:
"I think we’ve got the right mix. I think the smaller roster will help," Graves said. "I like what I have. I think this is a group I can develop."

Chavez and Shelley were the final two players to play alongside the likes of Sabrina Ionescu, Ruthy Hebard and Satou Sabally in 2019-20. Graves communicated an understanding for both players' decisions, but said it was always tough to see players move on.

"I think everybody who was around the program saw what was happening, and the reality is that they just wanted to play more," he said of the two players' choice to leave. "They didn’t feel like that was going to be the case at Oregon. I think they enjoyed their experiences here, at least that’s what they said. I think it really came down to wanting a better fit somewhere else.
 
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CocoHusky said:
Where did you transfer from? There are different "conference" rules regarding transfers. The sit out year is also only applicable to a few sports Football, Men's and Women's basketball. I don't recall Tennis being one of those sports.
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Actually, it was if your previous school refused to release you. Allow me to spit sour grapes over Softball, a few years back Arizona got a transfer from a California (non-P5) school whose (Asst.) Coach happened to be an ex UCLA Bruin. They refused to release her and she sat for a year to gain eligibility. And had a respectable showing with Arizona thereafter.

It is part of the legendary Arizona / UCLA feud.
 
KnightBridgeAZ said:
Actually, it was if your previous school refused to release you. Allow me to spit sour grapes over Softball, a few years back Arizona got a transfer from a California (non-P5) school whose (Asst.) Coach happened to be an ex UCLA Bruin. They refused to release her and she sat for a year to gain eligibility. And had a respectable showing with Arizona thereafter.

It is part of the legendary Arizona / UCLA feud.
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For WCBB, maybe some other sports too, those were the old operating rules. Under the new reules and since the advent of the portal it is no longer to "block" a player from transferring or even preventing them from landing at a specific school. Once a player decides he wants to transfer the university has 24 hours to enter the name into portal. Once in the Portal there are no further restrictions and a SA may chose to not transfer. Any school wih an available scholarship is free to contact the player once in the portal.
 
KnightBridgeAZ said:
Actually, it was if your previous school refused to release you. Allow me to spit sour grapes over Softball, a few years back Arizona got a transfer from a California (non-P5) school whose (Asst.) Coach happened to be an ex UCLA Bruin. They refused to release her and she sat for a year to gain eligibility. And had a respectable showing with Arizona thereafter.

It is part of the legendary Arizona / UCLA feud.
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Arizona State did the same with a softball transfer to Oregon. And, in this case, the player hadn't even played a game forth Sun Devils. She's currently a starter in Eugene.
 
jonson said:
Arizona State did the same with a softball transfer to Oregon. And, in this case, the player hadn't even played a game forth Sun Devils. She's currently a starter in Eugene.
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That, at least, was in conference, even if not so nice. The Arizona situation there was no reason to think the teams would ever play each other and they still blocked her from immediate eligibility.

Yes, @CocoHusky those were indeed the old rules as you say. The difference between the major sports and lesser were the issue of "mandatory year sit-out unless given an NCAA waiver" vs. "sit-out if not released by prior school". Plus, of course, conference rules - at one time in SEC WBB you had to sit out 2 years if you transferred in conference IIRC.
 


Jailyn Mason

HONORS - Member of the SEC WBB Leadership Council - SEC All-Freshman Team | 2017 - SEC Freshman of the Week | Nov. 29, 2016 - SEC Freshman of the Week | Jan. 19, 2017 AS A REDSHIRT SENIOR (2020-21) Played a significant role at Arkansas during her last season on the Hill ... Averaged 3.
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Zanzman said:
Those are 2 different style of play wow
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Rutgers isn't as slow as they used to be. This year they scored over 75 points per game, which is way better than most college teams. Now without Guirantes and Diamond Johnson maybe they go back to being bad on offense but that is different than purposely slowing the game down.
 
With the transfers of Diamond Johnson and Zippy Broughton, RU needed experience in the backcourt. This looks like the answer for now.
 
Dillon77 said:
Who woulda thunk -- a NYC to College Station pipline? Wonder if there is a connection to Jordan Nixon who might know Ms. Hoppie via the HS and/or AAU scene in "the city?"
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Staten Island is more like Alabama, though.
 
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JDuro said:


Jailyn Mason

HONORS - Member of the SEC WBB Leadership Council - SEC All-Freshman Team | 2017 - SEC Freshman of the Week | Nov. 29, 2016 - SEC Freshman of the Week | Jan. 19, 2017 AS A REDSHIRT SENIOR (2020-21) Played a significant role at Arkansas during her last season on the Hill ... Averaged 3.
arkansasrazorbacks.com arkansasrazorbacks.com
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And here I thought she was going to try to be closer to her long-term boyfriend on the FB coaching staff at Illinois!
 
The problem with the one time transfer is your top schools will just recruit the best players from everyone else.

Alabama, Ohio State, Clemson, Oklahoma and a few others in football will just get stronger and stronger when they can recruit the best from everyone else. And that is dangerous for every athletic department, since football pays the bills. If you develop players for 2 years just to have them leave for a "blue blood" then how do you keep fans invested.

I feel bad for the G5 in all sports, may as well call them the college D League.
 
This is going to hurt the marginal HS students who hope to get a scholarship to a major school. The great players will still be pursued by the best. The marginal players will have to sign with a school on a "show me" deal and hope they play well enough to attract the big name schools later in their career.
 
garddog said:
The problem with the one time transfer is your top schools will just recruit the best players from everyone else.

Alabama, Ohio State, Clemson, Oklahoma and a few others in football will just get stronger and stronger when they can recruit the best from everyone else. And that is dangerous for every athletic department, since football pays the bills. If you develop players for 2 years just to have them leave for a "blue blood" then how do you keep fans invested.

I feel bad for the G5 in all sports, may as well call them the college D League.
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I feel the same way. The blue bloods in all sports will get better. Poaching will be even more prominent. Truly a one year sit out from competition wasn’t a bad thing from the perspective of adjusting to a new school and coaches. I suspect there will be many solid mid level players who jump to the big names after good starts to a career to chase championships and get their name more noticed by professionals. Even mid level P5 programs in football and M&W basketball will feel this and not in good ways.
 
dws3665 said:
And here I thought she was going to try to be closer to her long-term boyfriend on the FB coaching staff at Illinois!
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Legit question, but I wonder if Illinois WBB coaches even know about this connection? Did they follow Mason on Twitter or something that would at least show interest? This seemed like a good match based on what you said. Although, if Mason really wanted to go there maybe she would have reached out to them, unless she already had a lot of suitors and wasn't going to wait on Illinois.
 
HuskyMJ said:
Legit question, but I wonder if Illinois WBB coaches even know about this connection? Did they follow Mason on Twitter or something that would at least show interest? This seemed like a good match based on what you said. Although, if Mason really wanted to go there maybe she would have reached out to them, unless she already had a lot of suitors and wasn't going to wait on Illinois.
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Yeah, I have to figure that the connections were there if she wanted them. 🤷‍♂️
 
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