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I feel confident most posters aren't taking medical advice from the idiots who post here. Lord help those who do.

For those of you handing it out, I hope the exercise gave you the ego boost you so desperately need, but don't delude yourself that your "wisdom" has done anything else.
 
Since this has now turned into a Covid thread, after basically the entire public health "expert" community bashed them relentlessly for like the past 2 months, Sweden is now the model going forward...

WHO lauds lockdown-ignoring Sweden as 'model' for countries
Or not, once you equalize for population size:
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Or not, ounce you equalize for population size:
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The point is these public health officials we're told to listen to and that the tech world is crushing any dissenting opinions of has basically gotten wrong and backtracked on everything. They told us the virus wasn't transmissable from person to person, they told us the US should be far more concerned with the flu, they told us masks do nothing for non health workers, they told us Sweden had it all wrong.
 
Or not, ounce you equalize for population size:
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Man, I really didn't want to contribute to this but,,,,,, I think one of the best comparisons for the effectiveness of Sweden's approach is to look at their two closest neighbors between which Sweden is sandwiched. Finland and Norway combined have about 10% higher population than Sweden but to be conservative let's call it equal. F&N have 12,616 cases and 413 deaths. Sweden has 20,302 cases and 2,462 deaths, 38% and 83% higher respectively. I don't have the testing rates which could alter the comparison of confirmed cases but shouldn't really affect the death count. What is so laudable about Sweden's performance?
 
I skipped from page 1 to page 3...how has this deteriorated? Guess I need to scroll page 2 and learn.
 
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They’re not meant as filters....

That type of mask is to stop you from spreading the virus by spewing it out unchecked into the world. And it works. It's not perfect, but it absolutely helps.

Anyway, back to Andre. I'm pumped as !@#$ for this kid. He'll have a better freshman year than Bouk.
 
The point is these public health officials we're told to listen to and that the tech world is crushing any dissenting opinions of has basically gotten wrong and backtracked on everything. They told us the virus wasn't transmissable from person to person, they told us the US should be far more concerned with the flu, they told us masks do nothing for non health workers, they told us Sweden had it all wrong.

Sweden's number of deaths compared to it's neighboring countries tells you all your need to know. Just because the govt has been wrong a lot, doesn't mean they are ALWAYS wrong. This is not a good strategy:

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Plus, it's been shown there's no actual 'immunity' for some folks. People in South Korea and Asia have been getting it again after initially recovering.
 
Sweden's number of deaths compared to it's neighboring countries tells you all your need to know. Not a good strategy:

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Plus, it's been shown there's no actual 'immunity' for some folks. People in South Korea and Asia have been getting it again after initially recovering.
That's a really elementary way of looking at things. Head over to the cesspool if you want to discuss.
 
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Sweden's number of deaths compared to it's neighboring countries tells you all your need to know. Just because the govt has been wrong a lot, doesn't mean they are ALWAYS wrong. This is not a good strategy:

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Plus, it's been shown there's no actual 'immunity' for some folks. People in South Korea and Asia have been getting it again after initially recovering.
We also know that it impacts the black and brown community here in the US worse than white people (typically due to underlying health conditions) and the Swedish population is generally much healthier (and much whiter).

For example:

in Sweden:
Between 2007 and 2013 the prevalence of diabetes rose from 5.8 to 6.8% in Sweden but incidence remained constant at 4.4 per 1000 (2013).

in the US:
Among the US population overall, crude estimates for 2018 were: • 34.2 million people of all ages—or 10.5% of the US population—had diabetes. • 34.1 million adults aged 18 years or older—or 13.0% of all US adults—had diabetes (Table 1a; Table 1b). • 7.3 million adults aged 18 years or older who met laboratory criteria for diabetes were not aware of or did not report having diabetes (undiagnosed diabetes, Table 1b). This number represents 2.8% of all US adults (Table 1a) and 21.4% of all US adults with diabetes. • The percentage of adults with diabetes increased with age, reaching 26.8% among those aged 65 years or older (Table 1a).

We have 3 times as many people with diabetes alone than they have in the entire country. And we have a far denser society in our cities. Using Sweden as a guidepost for Maine, or the Dakotas, Idaho, Montana, etc might make sense. Using it to suggest what NYC does will virtually guarantee tens of thousands of deaths of black and brown people.
 
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Or not, once you equalize for population size:
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What I find interesting is that their confirmed case number/1M is LOWER than the US, but their death rate is higher. Is that an indictment on their health care system? Would also be interesting to see when they start serology testing to see what the penetration is
 
I skipped from page 1 to page 3...how has this deteriorated? Guess I need to scroll page 2 and learn.
Lol (literally). To be honest, I had completely forgotten that this a Jackson thread.
 
I'll try to get this back on track...

Anyone see this one? Found it last night. Not in a competitive setting, but Jackson does look extremely comfortable shooting from long distance.


I think the shooting is the icing on the cake. If he can get in the passing lanes, help handle/distribute the ball, rebound and run he's going to take pressure off Bouk, Cole, Polley, etc.

If he is active on offense and cuts to the rim as guys like Bouk, Cole, Gaffney are driving, then we're going to see a bunch of lobs.

I just hope we can keep him and Bouk on the court for more than one season.
 
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That's a really elementary way of looking at things. Head over to the cesspool if you want to discuss.

No, you aren't thinking broad enough. Simply looks at demographics. Right now, with lock down, our health system is coming apart at the seems in areas. We simply do not have the infrastructural capacity to pull this off.

Also, without a vaccine, herd immunity is physically impossible for something that one cannot 'beat'. It ain't chicken pox.

I mean, I realize I can't argue with someone who's advocating for higher percentages of people to die. At it's basic level, it's a form of eugenics. Very, very weird and immoral hill to die on.

You are being snow jobbed by impatient politicians and business interests, pushing that idea because they want things to start up.

Oh, and as @WingU-Conn states, since you've expressed caring about this particular topic in the past, you'll be killing off a higher percentage of black and poor folks. Which is probably a plus in the minds of some of our populace. And what he didn't mention, is these people have far less access to treatment than wealthier folks. More adverse outcomes. Again, eugenics.

Since this has now turned into a Covid thread, after basically the entire public health "expert" community bashed them relentlessly for like the past 2 months, Sweden is now the model going forward...
WHO lauds lockdown-ignoring Sweden as 'model' for countries

If you are trusting the WHO with anything, I mean anything, you are doing it wrong. They have been on the wrong side of this from day 1. They continue to be. And not for nothing, but it's no surprise that China has significant influence over that organization.
 
No, you aren't thinking broad enough. Simply looks at demographics. Right now, with lock down, our health system is coming apart at the seems in areas. We simply do not have the infrastructural capacity to pull this off.

Also, without a vaccine, herd immunity is physically impossible for something that one cannot 'beat'. It ain't chicken pox.

I mean, I realize I can't argue with someone who's advocating for higher percentages of people to die. At it's basic level, it's a form of eugenics. Very, very weird and immoral hill to die on.

You are being snow jobbed by impatient politicians and business interests, pushing that idea because they want things to start up.

Oh, and as @WingU-Conn states, since you've expressed caring about this particular topic in the past, you'll be killing off a higher percentage of black and poor folks. Which is probably a plus in the minds of some of our populace. And what he didn't mention, is these people have far less access to treatment than wealthier folks. More adverse outcomes. Again, eugenics.

There's a reason ONE country in the western world is doing this as a matter of course. One.
This is the least informed and least productive post I've seen on this subject and there have been some really bad ones. And then you take it a step further and go the "you want people to die route."

You should probably delete your post, it reflects terribly on you.
 
No, you aren't thinking broad enough. Simply looks at demographics. Right now, with lock down, our health system is coming apart at the seems in areas. We simply do not have the infrastructural capacity to pull this off.

Also, without a vaccine, herd immunity is physically impossible for something that one cannot 'beat'. It ain't chicken pox.

I mean, I realize I can't argue with someone who's advocating for higher percentages of people to die. At it's basic level, it's a form of eugenics. Very, very weird and immoral hill to die on.

You are being snow jobbed by impatient politicians and business interests, pushing that idea because they want things to start up.

Oh, and as @WingU-Conn states, since you've expressed caring about this particular topic in the past, you'll be killing off a higher percentage of black and poor folks. Which is probably a plus in the minds of some of our populace. And what he didn't mention, is these people have far less access to treatment than wealthier folks. More adverse outcomes. Again, eugenics.



If you are trusting the WHO with anything, I mean anything, you are doing it wrong. They have been on the wrong side of this from day 1. They continue to be. And not for nothing, but it's no surprise that China has significant influence over that organization.

How is a vaccine possible if herd immunity isn't?
 
How is a vaccine possible if herd immunity isn't?

Because natural 'herd immunity' does not occur quickly enough to stop the spread of something as virulent as COVID-19. It's not like you become permanently immune. Viruses mutate, your body naturally loses your immunity and so on. So the longer the time line to 'limited immunity', the more likely it is to stick around.

It's about speed of immunity implementation. True herd immunity is only possible with a vaccine that the majority of the population can get quickly. People are literally going to have to line up in huge groups and get injected in a very short period of time. It's going to be a mammoth undertaking.

A different type, but just an example of the process, see how diseases like Polio were wiped out. Eventually the virus dies out because enough people become immune fast enough to stop the spread.
 
Fauci says a vaccine by January is "doable".. Looks like we're playing BB in 2020
I'm going to say that's unlikely. Even if it were developed it would have to be disbursed to enough of the population to make it effective. Pretty tough to get all that done by November.
 
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Since this has now turned into a Covid thread, after basically the entire public health "expert" community bashed them relentlessly for like the past 2 months, Sweden is now the model going forward...

WHO lauds lockdown-ignoring Sweden as 'model' for countries

The credibility of the W.H.O. is at zero. They were telling the world in January there was no human to human transmission. They told us that face masks did no good. The refused to call it a pandemic until March 11th. Listen to the W.H.O. at your own peril.
 
The credibility of the W.H.O. is at zero. They were telling the world in January there was no human to human transmission. They told us that face masks did no good. The refused to call it a pandemic until March 11th. Listen to the W.H.O. at your own peril.
No shart, I've explained this in no less than 10 posts on the subject. It's why I said I may be questioning Sweden's approach for the first time now that the WHO has all of a sudden said they should be the model going forward.
 
Can one of the mods just sticky a “Bad Medical Takes” thread at the top and then whoever wants to can just use that as their echo chamber and not insert those thoughts into every other thread?
Why didn't you just read Chief's post and leave it at that. You stuck your 2 cents in and derailed the topic.
 
No, you aren't thinking broad enough. Simply looks at demographics. Right now, with lock down, our health system is coming apart at the seems in areas. We simply do not have the infrastructural capacity to pull this off.

Also, without a vaccine, herd immunity is physically impossible for something that one cannot 'beat'. It ain't chicken pox.

I mean, I realize I can't argue with someone who's advocating for higher percentages of people to die. At it's basic level, it's a form of eugenics. Very, very weird and immoral hill to die on.

You are being snow jobbed by impatient politicians and business interests, pushing that idea because they want things to start up.

Oh, and as @WingU-Conn states, since you've expressed caring about this particular topic in the past, you'll be killing off a higher percentage of black and poor folks. Which is probably a plus in the minds of some of our populace. And what he didn't mention, is these people have far less access to treatment than wealthier folks. More adverse outcomes. Again, eugenics.



If you are trusting the WHO with anything, I mean anything, you are doing it wrong. They have been on the wrong side of this from day 1. They continue to be. And not for nothing, but it's no surprise that China has significant influence over that organization.
Derail the topic ...... The sequel
 
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