Andra Espinoza-Hunter considering six schools for transfer

[CocoHusky]

Isn't the NCAA max number 15 for the roster? If that is correct, 12 minus 1 plus three leaves room for AEH this spring?? Since I'm only a side line viewer, I'm asking for your expertise--is that true, or am I, as usual, missing something??

You got it right and exactly what I was trying to say.

 

[BroadwayVa]

You got it right and exactly what I was trying to say.

If I could see--I would have seen that's what you said---you are too kind, but thank you.

 

[Centerstream]

IMO she has included MSU in her list just to throw salt into the wound. Aren't they losing about 4 starters from this year's team next season? If so, I would think that this is their season, with no future season on the horizon?

 

[trb123]

I would love to see AEH develop at Duke. They do not have a guard development program as fabulous as Tennessee's. Still it is good enough for me to give her a big tip when she waits at my table.

 

[CocoHusky]

IMO she has included MSU in her list just to throw salt into the wound. Aren't they losing about 4 starters from this year's team next season? If so, I would think that this is their season, with no future season on the horizon?

MSU was a " curious" school on the list but that salt throwing theory is a little way out there. By the time AEH is eligible to play again (fall of 2019) there will be at most 5 players on the current MSU roster with eligibility remaining. None of the 5 are currently in the regular MSU rotation.

 

[DefenseBB]

A couple of observations on the comments and my general view: The fact AEH has left the program does not have to be bifurcated or black/white. The concern is considerable time and effort went into recruiting a player, getting them and then seeing them leave without any tangible benefit to either party. That is a waste for both her and the program. It happens and the more it happens, the more it affects the program. I am not saying "doom and gloom" just stating the facts.

Now, that said, those in power should always and I repeat always, take the high road on the departing. For all the bashing that Holly takes here, she did a really great job on Cooper's dismissal. She wouldn't even call it a dismissal. Did she/Tenn do anything behind the scenes to block Cooper playing this year? That is an unknown but at least all comments were respectful at the time.

Geno is the preeminent coach of the sport and I know criticism his way is not well received by this group. No one is perfect, with some of us having more flaws than others and at times brutal honesty, while intended to help, needs to be kept private. That is the case here. There are back channels that could handle the "real reasons" if the reasons must come out but for the most part, these are young women still figuring out who they are, what they want and how to get there. This is new to them, it is not new to Geno and staff. Be gracious and move on.

A couple of days ago I posted a thread about a former UConn Assistant Swim Coach who became a HC and was removed from two subsequent positions due to abusive behavior (one instance, her 3 year contract was not renewed due to numerous issues that occurred, including 3 investigations and the other she was outright dismissed in the 1st year). This was abuse and I saw it first hand. What Geno did was not personal attacks, did not harm the student's potential in the sport (as evidenced by the schools AEH says she is looking at) and was not abusive in language towards the athlete nor created issues of physical harm. He just needs realize he's the adult in the room and not be so forthright with details as everyone makes mistakes or errors in judgement.

We often cite his success as proof we should not question his motives and in most situations that is logical. However there are times when anyone, no matter how successful can benefit from self-reflection and modifications of behavior. Yes, I still hold Mr. Auriemma in the highest regards and think he can/is a lightning rod for too much criticism/scrutiny. This situation is unfortunate and while not "troubling" could and should have been avoided.

Respectfully submitted-DefenseBB

 

[BroadwayVa]

If I'm being honest, AEH's decisions make little sense to me. First she commits to UConn (far earlier than wise) and then continues to honor that commitment even though two higher ranked players would be coming in with her (Walker & Coombs). In addition, the #1 ranked team only losses one starter, and has two highly ranked redshirts (Stevens & Camara) becoming eligible. And, there is also Dangerfield to contend with and perhaps Irwin and Bent as well.

How could she have possibly thought significant playing time would be available until at least her junior year? Ridiculous!

Freshmen are not required to make sense. Whether she left by her own decision or Geno's--has much to do with why she departed. So don't try to make sense out of a decision she may not have made. If the decision is Geno's it becomes too personal.
I liked every thing I SAW about AEH, I had great expectations for her future. I don't worry about the in coming highly recruited newbies---we've seen too many that didn't pan out. Most Uconn kids arrive with some level of fan fare--initially it's near impossible to predict their futures, except Walker and players of her caliber.

 

[HuskyNan]

A couple of observations on the comments and my general view: The fact AEH has left the program does not have to be bifurcated or black/white. The concern is considerable time and effort went into recruiting a player, getting them and then seeing them leave without any tangible benefit to either party. That is a waste for both her and the program. It happens and the more it happens, the more it affects the program. I am not saying "doom and gloom" just stating the facts.

Now, that said, those in power should always and I repeat always, take the high road on the departing. For all the bashing that Holly takes here, she did a really great job on Cooper's dismissal. She wouldn't even call it a dismissal. Did she/Tenn do anything behind the scenes to block Cooper playing this year? That is an unknown but at least all comments were respectful at the time.

Geno is the preeminent coach of the sport and I know criticism his way is not well received by this group. No one is perfect, with some of us having more flaws than others and at times brutal honesty, while intended to help, needs to be kept private. That is the case here. There are back channels that could handle the "real reasons" if the reasons must come out but for the most part, these are young women still figuring out who they are, what they want and how to get there. This is new to them, it is not new to Geno and staff. Be gracious and move on.

A couple of days ago I posted a thread about a former UConn Assistant Swim Coach who became a HC and was removed from two subsequent positions due to abusive behavior (one instance, her 3 year contract was not renewed due to numerous issues that occurred, including 3 investigations and the other she was outright dismissed in the 1st year). This was abuse and I saw it first hand. What Geno did was not personal attacks, did not harm the student's potential in the sport (as evidenced by the schools AEH says she is looking at) and was not abusive in language towards the athlete nor created issues of physical harm. He just needs realize he's the adult in the room and not be so forthright with details as everyone makes mistakes or errors in judgement.

We often cite his success as proof we should not question his motives and in most situations that is logical. However there are times when anyone, no matter how successful can benefit from self-reflection and modifications of behavior. Yes, I still hold Mr. Auriemma in the highest regards and think he can/is a lightning rod for too much criticism/scrutiny. This situation is unfortunate and while not "troubling" could and should have been avoided.

Respectfully submitted-DefenseBB

Geno’s comments about AEH weren’t made in an official announcement or at a press conference. They were made at an unofficial event where his comments are generally not disseminated to the public. It was his misfortune that Boneyarders attended that particular event.

The criticism of Geno here is unfair - the Boneyard was the one that broadcast the news and now the Boneyard is blaming Geno for it

 

[BroadwayVa]

A couple of observations on the comments and my general view: The fact AEH has left the program does not have to be bifurcated or black/white. The concern is considerable time and effort went into recruiting a player, getting them and then seeing them leave without any tangible benefit to either party. That is a waste for both her and the program. It happens and the more it happens, the more it affects the program. I am not saying "doom and gloom" just stating the facts.

Now, that said, those in power should always and I repeat always, take the high road on the departing. For all the bashing that Holly takes here, she did a really great job on Cooper's dismissal. She wouldn't even call it a dismissal. Did she/Tenn do anything behind the scenes to block Cooper playing this year? That is an unknown but at least all comments were respectful at the time.

Geno is the preeminent coach of the sport and I know criticism his way is not well received by this group. No one is perfect, with some of us having more flaws than others and at times brutal honesty, while intended to help, needs to be kept private. That is the case here. There are back channels that could handle the "real reasons" if the reasons must come out but for the most part, these are young women still figuring out who they are, what they want and how to get there. This is new to them, it is not new to Geno and staff. Be gracious and move on.

A couple of days ago I posted a thread about a former UConn Assistant Swim Coach who became a HC and was removed from two subsequent positions due to abusive behavior (one instance, her 3 year contract was not renewed due to numerous issues that occurred, including 3 investigations and the other she was outright dismissed in the 1st year). This was abuse and I saw it first hand. What Geno did was not personal attacks, did not harm the student's potential in the sport (as evidenced by the schools AEH says she is looking at) and was not abusive in language towards the athlete nor created issues of physical harm. He just needs realize he's the adult in the room and not be so forthright with details as everyone makes mistakes or errors in judgement.

We often cite his success as proof we should not question his motives and in most situations that is logical. However there are times when anyone, no matter how successful can benefit from self-reflection and modifications of behavior. Yes, I still hold Mr. Auriemma in the highest regards and think he can/is a lightning rod for too much criticism/scrutiny. This situation is unfortunate and while not "troubling" could and should have been avoided.

Respectfully submitted-DefenseBB

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Good stuff again: I particularly liked paragraphs 2 , 3 and 5. Mostly because HUMAN's act as HUMANs not matter how high a pedestal we thrust upon them. Also, those in charge I expect to take the high road when entrusted with my kids. I too believe attract pointed words, some not warranted.

 

[RockyMTblue2]

My take, similar to yours, is those who never were-----never was. Unfortunately at this point AEH is a never was, it's hard to really miss what you ve never had.
I thought AEH may have been a bonus and from the tiny minutes I saw her I thought she had GAME , played some D, and had no fear. /She'll in my opinion shall be an asset to whomever may get her, Walz worked with Angel with success...

The only thing that comes out of AEH leaving the program at Geno's insistence is that UConn no longer has this freshman recruit on the roster; a recruit we knew little about. When her not being with the team made her departure seem a certainty I said my only desire was that we wouldn't be following her around with threads for the next 4 or 5 years. If we don't have better things to talk about here, then it's time to pack it in. There are all sorts of web hosting companies that will give you your own little web site and you AEH devotees can get a fan site going. But for me AEH is not a happy memory and I'd just as soon wish her well and forget about her.

It does not mean that I wish ill for AEH, just she no longer falls within the perimeter of my Huskies addiction and her departure is at best a shared failure. There is part of me that finds AEH's departure reassuring as, in my perverse nature, it speaks to Geno being as exacting and fearless as ever in pursuing excellence in the program and protecting it from anything which would dilute program goals.

 

[BroadwayVa]

Geno’s comments about AEH weren’t made in an official announcement or at a press conference. They were made at an unofficial event where his comments are generally not disseminated to the public. It was his misfortune that Boneyarders attended that particular event.

The criticism of Geno here is unfair - the Boneyard was the one that broadcast the news and now the Boneyard is blaming Geno for it

Geno is a public Wow is he a public figure, larger than life and too often willing to say whats better not said.
The forum in which it stated those word reported was, reported too be, among Philly fans. In today's world ALL people of NOTE are aware of the potential of those words being wide spread. The onus is on Geno to protect words not to be published. The only way for his words to not be publish is for him not to say them.
The Boneyard fans, critics, haters, are not responsible for his words, regardless of how they were obtained the owner ship of those words remain with GENO .

If that is unfair--blame the world--the world is unfair---destroy cell phones, stop speaking in forum of fans, or use guarded speech. Most public figures, Geno is one, knows the potential of their words being spread. Is it unfair to accurately report the actual words Geno spoke---regardless of where they were spoken??

 

[BroadwayVa]

The only thing that comes out of AEH leaving the program at Geno's insistence is that UConn no longer has this freshman recruit on the roster; a recruit we knew little about. When her not being with the team made her departure seem a certainty I said my only desire was that we wouldn't be following her around with threads for the next 4 or 5 years. If we don't have better things to talk about here, then it's time to pack it in. There are all sorts of web hosting companies that will give you your own little web site and you AEH devotees can get a fan site going. But for me AEH is not a happy memory and I'd just as soon wish her well and forget about her.

It does not mean that I wish ill for AEH, just she no longer falls within the perimeter of my Huskies addiction and her departure is at best a shared failure. There is part of me that finds AEH's departure reassuring as, in my perverse nature, it speaks to Geno being as exacting and fearless as ever in pursuing excellence in the program and protecting it from anything which would dilute program goals.

Look around at those departed--some very much liked---Butler is a true exceptions--most once gone a blib or two may be seen then gone again. Rarely are Uconn WBB fans interested in those who departed or in AEH's case, like EED's case---a never was a Uconn WBB player (REALLY).

You, me and a dozen others are dragging this on longer than it deserves--I admit my guilt in this.
Yea, I had hopes for her--now both are gone.

 

[mhshuskies]

According to Auriemma - no loss. I agree.

That would not make sense. Why would he recruit and offer to a player that would not have potential to be of benefit. Maybe he meant that she has not yet had an impact to lose.

 

[Dillon77]

Isn't that Longuyland? Visits to North Beach, Terryville (L.I) --to wife's relatives would indicate that's it.
Working with paramedic groups from Green--pernt (Greenpoint) to Montuk pt (sP) That seemed common usage.

Not in my household and neck of the woods at that particular time. When I grew up, eastern Long Island was still a cluster of towns and/or villages set among truck farms and expanses of oak forests, and the LIE was not even all the way out towards Riverhead. Many north shore towns had more in common with southern New England in the way they were designed and the radio stations people listened to. So I didn't hear too much of the "what exit?" stuff until I was pretty much away at college and the large Suffolk-development was underway.

 

[Aluminny69]

I predict she Never plays in the NC game!

I seem to remember several boneyarders predicted that about A'ja Wilson when she declined UConn's offer. How'd that work out?

 

[CocoHusky]

Geno’s comments about AEH weren’t made in an official announcement or at a press conference. They were made at an unofficial event where his comments are generally not disseminated to the public. It was his misfortune that Boneyarders attended that particular event. The criticism of Geno here is unfair - the Boneyard was the one that broadcast the news and now the Boneyard is blaming Geno for it

@HuskyNan I have to disagree that the criticism of Geno here is unfair. I'm not sure what you mean by "unofficial event" but Geno would not be adressing that group of people if he were not the coach of UCONN WBB team nor would Boneyarders be as intrested in attending. AEH transfer was also addressed on something called The Geno Auriemma Show by Geno in a much more positive light. Geno could have and should have done much better.

 

[ASweet3781]

IMO she has included MSU in her list just to throw salt into the wound. Aren't they losing about 4 starters from this year's team next season? If so, I would think that this is their season, with no future season on the horizon?

Are you being serious?

 

[ASweet3781]

That would not make sense. Why would he recruit and offer to a player that would not have potential to be of benefit. Maybe he meant that she has not yet had an impact to lose.

Every UConn player is recruited to make a huge impact?

 

[ASweet3781]

It takes a lot to shock me anymore. But reading this thread? Geez. I am shocked at how some are trying to turn this transfer into a bigger deal than it really is. I don't know Andra from Eve and wish her well wherever she ends up. But she is about as forgettable and replaceable of a player as you will find transfer. For starters, UConn really didn't even need 3 guards from the class of 2017 to begin with.

 

[HumblePie]

Freshmen are not required to make sense. Whether she left by her own decision or Geno's--has much to do with why she departed. So don't try to make sense out of a decision she may not have made. If the decision is Geno's it becomes too personal.
I liked every thing I SAW about AEH, I had great expectations for her future. I don't worry about the in coming highly recruited newbies---we've seen too many that didn't pan out. Most Uconn kids arrive with some level of fan fare--initially it's near impossible to predict their futures, except Walker and players of her caliber.

Hey, I didn't just fall off the back-end of a turnip truck! I've been around for many years and have a pretty good idea what happens in front and behind the cameras. My previous remarks about AEH's lack of good decision making had (as clearly stated) more to what she (and those advising her) knew before she enrolled at UConn. Whether she or Geno pulled the final string is really unimportant. She left because her unreasonable expectations led to an attitude that could not be lived with.

 

[j66kicker]

Geno is a public Wow is he a public figure, larger than life and too often willing to say whats better not said.
The forum in which it stated those word reported was, reported too be, among Philly fans. In today's world ALL people of NOTE are aware of the potential of those words being wide spread. The onus is on Geno to protect words not to be published. The only way for his words to not be publish is for him not to say them.
The Boneyard fans, critics, haters, are not responsible for his words, regardless of how they were obtained the owner ship of those words remain with GENO .

If that is unfair--blame the world--the world is unfair---destroy cell phones, stop speaking in forum of fans, or use guarded speech. Most public figures, Geno is one, knows the potential of their words being spread. Is it unfair to accurately report the actual words Geno spoke---regardless of where they were spoken??

I have no problem with what Geno said. But I agree that, IF he didn’t want it to get out, then just don’t say it. He is fully aware of today’s consumer technology and social media.

That said, in this instance the videographer has told us that he held the recording device high over his head in plain sight for 40 minutes. I’m sure if Geno had asked that his comments not be recorded his wishes would have been respected.

 

[cbraarj]

I seem to remember several boneyarders predicted that about A'ja Wilson when she declined UConn's offer. How'd that work out?

AEH is not in Ajas hemisphere as a freshmen basketball player. Aja never came to Uconn but if she did I will go out on a limb saying Aja never transfers and would have 3 NCs right now instead of 1. In reality she has a NC but has not come within single digits of beating Uconn! Uconn by 25 on Feb. 1.

 

[lanieer]

She’s going to be a good one. Was very impressed with the 4 or 5 minutes a game we saw her. Don’t even want to know why she left. She was the extra guard we needed. Not sure what happened but I wish her success.

 

[cbraarj]

Geno’s comments about AEH weren’t made in an official announcement or at a press conference. They were made at an unofficial event where his comments are generally not disseminated to the public. It was his misfortune that Boneyarders attended that particular event.

The criticism of Geno here is unfair - the Boneyard was the one that broadcast the news and now the Boneyard is blaming Geno for it

Nan, Geno did nothing wrong as far as I am concerned! He has always been a straight shooter in my book! That was an event he might have let his guard down and I hope it doesnt make him back off from doing them. If he decides to it is understandable. You are 100% correct!

 

[lanieer]

I agree, for some players like EDD that left to be close to her sister or Butler that gave it her all, worked her tail off and just wanted to play significant minutes in her final season I totally understand and am pulling for them. However, players that simply quit on the team and their teammates and are unwilling to make the sacrifices needed, I just don't get it. Honestly, I couldn't care less about their futures, as Mr. Wonderful from Shark Tank would say "They are dead to me".

She’s a kid. ,

 

[CocoHusky]

AEH is not in Ajas hemisphere as a freshmen basketball player. Aja never came to Uconn but if she did I will go out on a limb saying Aja never transfers and would have 3 NCs right now instead of 1. In reality she has a NC but has not come within single digits of beating Uconn! Uconn by 25 on Feb. 1.

"In reality" A'Ja has a championship that many here said she would never have. I can't remmeber if you were one of them, just in case you were, consider the original post and this one a reminder that you were wrong.

 

[Bigpetunia]

Whether or not any criticism leveled at the so-called "egomaniac" in Storrs is fair is a matter of utter indifference to me...I just hope the egomaniac declines to retire before he's at least eighty. And, if I may add just one more thing: We live, I'm happy to say, in a long-sought-for age when we approach female participation in all walks of life as a desirable thing - at least I do. Part and parcel of that felicitous reality is that we need to abandon all attempts, to the greatest extent possible, to employ double-standards in our collective reaction to related events. I am not female, but, if I were, I certainly think I would vote in favor of that idea. "Don't give me special treatment...just an equal shot." Just imagine if an unhappy Freshman on the men's team elected to transfer out. Would the same energy be expended on their fan forum be devoted to worrying about his "feelings"? C'mon...be honest! Let's not try to have it both ways!

 

[dtbtbtb]

Nothing against AEH who I hope will find a team that she'm get a lot of playing time and success! It seemed to me that the mistake was UConn taking 4 players who are very similar in one class basically 2-3 players with Coombs being able to play the 1)

 

[CocoHusky]

Whether or not any criticism leveled at the so-called "egomaniac" in Storrs is fair is a matter of utter indifference to me...I just hope the egomaniac declines to retire before he's at least eighty. And, if I may add just one more thing: We live, I'm happy to say, in a long-sought-for age when we approach female participation in all walks of life as a desirable thing - at least I do. Part and parcel of that felicitous reality is that we need to abandon all attempts, to the greatest extent possible, to employ double-standards in our collective reaction to related events. I am not female, but, if I were, I certainly think I would vote in favor of that idea. "Don't give me special treatment...just an equal shot." Just imagine if an unhappy Freshman on the men's team elected to transfer out. Would the same energy be expended on their fan forum be devoted to worrying about his "feelings"? C'mon...be honest! Let's not try to have it both ways!

Breathe! Do you want him to retire or do you want him to "decline" to retire?

 

[TitleTown]

She’s a kid. ,

And?