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2022 Recruiting: Alex Karaban Unoffical Visit (Again)

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Chin Diesel said:
We hope to have shooters. Having enough actual players who have demonstrated they can shoot efficiently is still TBD.
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Cole/Polley/Hawkins/Gaffney is a good start. Akok/Samson/Jackson/Martin are wildcards. Diggins seems more like a pass first guy rather than a shooter but maybe he will surprise people.
 
aburks41 said:
Cole/Polley/Hawkins/Gaffney is a good start. Akok/Samson/Jackson/Martin are wildcards. Diggins seems more like a pass first guy rather than a shooter but maybe he will surprise people.
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You have listed two players, Cole and Polley, who each averaged about 1.75 3-pointers per game and the highest of any of the shooters, Cole, is at .386. Gaff has shown flashes and Hawkins has never made a 3 in a college game. That's not exactly stacked; barely average for returners in today's college game. Calling Jackson a wild card? Can't disagree with that, but that's some crazy wild stuff if you are expecting him to be decent from 3. Martin is statistically below average. Samson? You're really expecting him to be a 3 point threat? I can't disprove it but, okay. Akok? Maybe. He shows flashes and at least shoots it confidently.

You're declaring the team has enough proven shooters going in to the season. I'm nowhere near ready to jump on that train.

Potentially enough? Yes. Proven? No way.
 
FatHank said:
Sledge or one of four trophies to hold. I wonder if Hurley is asking them which year they want to hold.
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I like this, the thought that Hurley says to these visitors “who do you want to wear? Rip Hamilton, Emeka, Kemba, or Shabazz?”
 
FlockOfLambs said:


Old video but didn't see it posted anywhere. Playing at NCAA Academy UConn held in 2019....cool to see him playing at Greer/Gampel /Werth
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I know I'm a homer, but after watching the full array of ways AK scored in that video from two years ago, including the body control, and ball handling on drives, someone needs to prove there are 87 better, more complete, players than him.
 
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Chin Diesel said:
You have listed two players, Cole and Polley, who each averaged about 1.75 3-pointers per game and the highest of any of the shooters, Cole, is at .386. Gaff has shown flashes and Hawkins has never made a 3 in a college game. That's not exactly stacked; barely average for returners in today's college game. Calling Jackson a wild card? Can't disagree with that, but that's some crazy wild stuff if you are expecting him to be decent from 3. Martin is statistically below average. Samson? You're really expecting him to be a 3 point threat? I can't disprove it but, okay. Akok? Maybe. He shows flashes and at least shoots it confidently.

You're declaring the team has enough proven shooters going in to the season. I'm nowhere near ready to jump on that train.

Potentially enough? Yes. Proven? No way.
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I am expecting Andre to improve. How much remains to be seen. I know it was a small sample, but I like his stroke at the free throw line. He hit 90 percent last year. As long as he is putting in the time, which he is doing, and taking hundreds of shots per day, he has a good chance to improve. If he can nail a few threes and hit off the dribble, his game will be sick.
 
Stinger92860 said:
I am expecting Andre to improve. How much remains to be seen. I know it was a small sample, but I like his stroke at the free throw line. He hit 90 percent last year. As long as he is putting in the time, which he is doing, and taking hundreds of shots per day, he has a good chance to improve. If he can nail a few threes and hit off the dribble, his game will be sick.
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I'm with you on the hoping/expecting. I'm just not buying in to UConn as a team has a known amount of good shooters across the board in the context of today's college game.

Different expectations for different players. I'd like to see Polley, Cole and Gaff all above or very close to .400.

Jackson? If he can hit 30% of his 3's it can really open up the game for him.
 
Watchdog said:
I know I'm a homer, but after watching the full array of ways AK scored in that video from two years ago, including the body control, and ball handling on drives, someone needs to prove there are 87 better, more complete, players than him.
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My guess, and this is purely speculation on my part, is that the recruiting analysts take athleticism and the pro potential because of athleticism too much into account when they are ranking players. The rankings are only partly based on impact in college, although usually they are one in the same (i.e. big impact in college equates to potential pro). College basketball is littered with very good fundamental players who make a big impact in college but aren't athletic freaks who go to the NBA. I think that's what Karaban will be. You need some guys on a roster who are like that.
 
Chin Diesel said:
You have listed two players, Cole and Polley, who each averaged about 1.75 3-pointers per game and the highest of any of the shooters, Cole, is at .386. Gaff has shown flashes and Hawkins has never made a 3 in a college game. That's not exactly stacked; barely average for returners in today's college game. Calling Jackson a wild card? Can't disagree with that, but that's some crazy wild stuff if you are expecting him to be decent from 3. Martin is statistically below average. Samson? You're really expecting him to be a 3 point threat? I can't disprove it but, okay. Akok? Maybe. He shows flashes and at least shoots it confidently.

You're declaring the team has enough proven shooters going in to the season. I'm nowhere near ready to jump on that train.

Potentially enough? Yes. Proven? No way.
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I do not disagree that certain things remain unproven.

I also regard the abrupt ending of the 19-20 season, and the extended pandemic/injury profile for 20-21 as context for another season during which I'll be inclined to exercise patience that a degree I don't expect some others to share.

I very much like the direction that things have been moving, and given both unexpected & unexpectable factors that have emerged in Dan Hurley's first 3 seasons, I believe that many more adjustments than not have been at a healthily responsive pace.
 
FlockOfLambs said:


Old video but didn't see it posted anywhere. Playing at NCAA Academy UConn held in 2019....cool to see him playing at Greer/Gampel /Werth
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This is the first I've seen him.

First thing I notice is his ability to score around the hoop. Uses both hands well, can go over his left or right shoulder, and looks to have fluid footwork and a soft touch. Very impressive.

Looks to be competent putting it on the floor...for straight line drives anyway. Not a regular ballhandler otherwise. Lack of lateral quickness may limit his ceiling as a ballhandler. Still, he drives under control and knows how to finish at the cup. I wonder if this skill translates to the next level.

He has great shooting form from deep. Sets his feet, economy of motion, uses the wrist, beautiful. I've heard he has a reputation as a good shooter, and looking at him shoot here makes that easy to believe.

I wonder how his defense is. That's one thing you never see with these mixtapes.

He looks like a stretch 4 to me and a matchup nightmare in waiting.

He'd fit so well with who we already have on board, too. Seems like a win-win, Alex!
 
Chin Diesel said:
You have listed two players, Cole and Polley, who each averaged about 1.75 3-pointers per game and the highest of any of the shooters, Cole, is at .386. Gaff has shown flashes and Hawkins has never made a 3 in a college game. That's not exactly stacked; barely average for returners in today's college game. Calling Jackson a wild card? Can't disagree with that, but that's some crazy wild stuff if you are expecting him to be decent from 3. Martin is statistically below average. Samson? You're really expecting him to be a 3 point threat? I can't disprove it but, okay. Akok? Maybe. He shows flashes and at least shoots it confidently.

You're declaring the team has enough proven shooters going in to the season. I'm nowhere near ready to jump on that train.

Potentially enough? Yes. Proven? No way.
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Im probably more optimistic than most on here. I think the full offseason and the sting of that Maryland L is going to lead to some surprising results
 
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If this guy would even give 75% of what Niels Giffey was for us, that would be a massive win. Probably a little more polished coming into college than Niels was though.
 
HuskyAlum012 said:
If this guy would even give 75% of what Niels Giffey was for us, that would be a massive win. Probably a little more polished coming into college than Niels was though.
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I love Niels but If we get Karaban and he’s 100% of Giffey, I will be disappointed.

Giffey was a great role player. karaban appears to have the chops to potentially be a main cog or even a star.
 
NJHoops said:
IMO, what you’re describing is related more to timeframe (complete recruiting year 2 to year 4, for example) than a change in recruiting philosophy/learning a lesson. His “rebuilds” (I hesitate to use that term for UConn because the situation is a little different) always take a step too long for some people, but they work. Get the (sometimes underrated) athletic “dogs” that will fly around and attack and establish a style, fill in with skill as recruiting gets easier as the program improves.
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I've never met Dan Hurley but, from Day One, have heard him speak with passion about UConn's history, style of play and the championships, whether Big East or NCAA.

Those feelings, plus the programs and speakers he's brought in to develop the players as young men come through loud and clear to the team and to the recruits who surely pick up on all the nuances about coach/team relationships on their visits.

So many people have been BS'ing them all their lives that it must be really impressive to interact with a coach who values them as people and not just as an athlete.
 
Watchdog said:
So many people have been BS'ing them all their lives that it must be really impressive to interact with a coach who values them as people and not just as an athlete.
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And Hurley believes what he's preaching to them. That's just my sense off of what I've heard him say publicly.
 
Watchdog said:
I know I'm a homer, but after watching the full array of ways AK scored in that video from two years ago, including the body control, and ball handling on drives, someone needs to prove there are 87 better, more complete, players than him.
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Friend of mine has a kid on NHM and has seen Karaban often and loves him.
 
BGesus4 said:
I love Niels but If we get Karaban and he’s 100% of Giffey, I will be disappointed.

Giffey was a great role player. karaban appears to have the chops to potentially be a main cog or even a star.
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What are you basing this on?
 
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If Karaban commits here, we should make that date an official “Ricker Appreciation Day.” It’s been so cool watching this recruitment progress since @Ricker gave us his excellent analysis so long ago (where he was very high on Karaban!)…I just want this one to come through for my man Ricker (and because I love this kid’s game). Bring it home, Coach!
 
BGesus4 said:
I love Niels but If we get Karaban and he’s 100% of Giffey, I will be disappointed.

Giffey was a great role player. karaban appears to have the chops to potentially be a main cog or even a star.
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Giffey was awesome as a senior. 48% from 3 is simply outstanding. He still only averaged 8.4 points, but that’s understandable on a team with Napier, Boatright, and Daniels. I think people forget that season was a huge improvement for him, though. His scoring averages were 2.2, 2.6, and 4.9 in his first three years. If Karaban averages 4.6 points and 2.5 rebounds per game for us career, I’d be disappointed. Of course, if he shoots 48% from 3 and helps win us a title, I’ll be thrilled.
 
HuskyAlum012 said:
If this guy would even give 75% of what Niels Giffey was for us, that would be a massive win. Probably a little more polished coming into college than Niels was though.
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????? 0k enough of the Giffey stuff, he was a great ROLE player who came up huge in the NCAA TOURNAMENT but Karaban was/is a much better player w a much higher ceiling
 
ToolzieFan said:
Giffey was awesome as a senior. 48% from 3 is simply outstanding. He still only averaged 8.4 points, but that’s understandable on a team with Napier, Boatright, and Daniels. I think people forget that season was a huge improvement for him, though. His scoring averages were 2.2, 2.6, and 4.9 in his first three years. If Karaban averages 4.6 points and 2.5 rebounds per game for us career, I’d be disappointed. Of course, if he shoots 48% from 3 and helps win us a title, I’ll be thrilled.
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Enough of the overrated love, super clutch player BUT a little way overboard for a guy who never averaged double digits.
Little too much of the LOOKED UNBELIEVABLE last time I saw him play syndrome, held off as long as I could about this
 
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BGesus4 said:
Which part, Giffey being a role player or Karaban not being brought in ( assuming we get him) to be a role player?
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When you said he'll be a star, I dont get that impression from watching everything available.
 
Hoops01 said:
????? 0k enough of the Giffey stuff, he was a great ROLE player who came up huge in the NCAA TOURNAMENT but Karaban was/is a much better player w a much higher ceiling
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Not too mention automatic from three for much of the season.
 
Huskyforlife said:
When you said he'll be a star, I dont get that impression from watching everything available.
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I don’t know if he’ll be a star or not, but when you hear about him dominating Pangos games it sounds like he may have a shot.

ive never seen him play other than clips so I’m judging based on what I read.

My main point was no way would he be brought in to be Giffey, let alone 75% of Giffey, which is what the initial response was to.
 
He talks about making lifelong connections. With all that, I hope on his visit they showed him @Ricker love an admiration. Def. the first on that train
Kudos to you sir
 
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