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NJHoops said:
I understand why guys (Betsey, Ngongba) are still infatuated by Duke, even though it’s not popular to say here. I do not get it with Kentucky. So much of what used to be appealing with them is becoming way more commonplace.
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Probably name brand cred. Most of these kids grew up with Kentucky and Duke being front and center getting the highest rated players and being propped up by the media as the end all be all. Calipari never met a camera or mic he didn't like. Those years of Calipari glory hogging at the NBA draft peddling the myth he developed top 10 players into lottery picks that spent 8 months at UK took root. The kids are just conditioned at this point to think that being recruited by and playing for those teams are reaching the pinnacle and that they are the few lucky ones wanted in their elite, prestigious club. It's like an offer from a top law firm. Whether their lofty status is just reputation or not at this point is almost irrelevent to some. The label or name carries weight.
 
NJHoops said:
I understand why guys (Betsey, Ngongba) are still infatuated by Duke, even though it’s not popular to say here. I do not get it with Kentucky. So much of what used to be appealing with them is becoming way more commonplace.
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Kentucky has the good NBA guard narrative right now. The list is really quite impressive these days (Booker, Maxey, Fox, Murray, Shai are 5 of the 10 or so most valuable guards in the league). The spin is that they are prepared for the NBA by Calipari, but really he's holding them back in college IMO.
 
auror said:
Kentucky has the good NBA guard narrative right now. The list is really quite impressive these days (Booker, Maxey, Fox, Murray, Shai are 5 of the 10 or so most valuable guards in the league). The spin is that they are prepared for the NBA by Calipari, but really he's holding them back in college IMO.
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It is a great narrative, they can talk up those guys a lot. Maxey is one of my personal faves. Aren’t we also pretty sure that group would be great no matter where they stopped in for college? Kentucky was ahead of everyone with the things they did to attach their name to the pro game. I just think, in reality, they’re not that unique with that anymore. But, it takes facts longer to catch up.
 
auror said:
Kentucky has the good NBA guard narrative right now. The list is really quite impressive these days (Booker, Maxey, Fox, Murray, Shai are 5 of the 10 or so most valuable guards in the league). The spin is that they are prepared for the NBA by Calipari, but really he's holding them back in college IMO.
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Yeah when people call the NBA playoffs the Kentucky Invitational, you’ll have some good PR to come with it.

I’m not sure kids care about how they’ll do in college if they think Cal can help them get a supermax deal at the next level. The list of players is crazy to add to that.

  • Herro
  • AD
  • Vanderbilt
  • Julius Randle
  • Immanuel Quickly
  • Bam
  • Malik Monk
  • KAT

These are just the guys from the playoffs that had big roles for their team. Its crazy.
 
HuskyWarrior611 said:
Yeah when people call the NBA playoffs the Kentucky Invitational, you’ll have some good PR to come with it.

I’m not sure kids care about how they’ll do in college if they think Cal can help them get a supermax deal at the next level. The list of players is crazy to add to that.

  • Herro
  • AD
  • Vanderbilt
  • Julius Randle
  • Immanuel Quickly
  • Bam
  • Malik Monk
  • KAT

These are just the guys from the playoffs that had big roles for their team. Its crazy.
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Eh. Those guys all got way better while in Pros
 
bazzdog said:
Eh. Those guys all got way better while in Pros
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For sure, but at some point it stops being a coincidence why. Cal’s guys go in ready to produce and have an impact. As much as we hate to admit it.

Now UNC, I’m not sure why top recruits keep going there for their career to die. Bust rate is so high lol
 
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HuskyWarrior611 said:
For sure, but at some point it stops being a coincidence why. Cal’s guys go in ready to produce and have an impact. As much as we hate to admit it.
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I don’t think anyone’s saying it’s a coincidence, and I am far from a Cal hater, but it’s laughable to give him credit for “developing” these guys. Thank god Anthony Davis went to UK - otherwise he’d probably be selling insurance right now.
 
BigErnMcCracken said:
I don’t think anyone’s saying it’s a coincidence, and I am far from a Cal hater, but it’s laughable to give him credit for “developing” these guys. Thank god Anthony Davis went to UK - otherwise he’d probably be selling insurance right now.
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Even if you want to remove Anthony Davis, how do you explain Booker, Herro, SGA, Quickley, etc.? Guys who were outside the top 20 or who weren’t genetically superior. Jamal Murray is not some super athlete and he was one of the best players in the playoffs.

Like yeah, there’s some guys that were just that good like Wall, David, and Boogie but there’s also guys who don’t have better measurables than a Bouknight or Hawkins making a huge impact or becoming stars.

None of them, even the role players, aren’t just three point specialists either making their living being floor spacers. Lol
 
HuskyWarrior611 said:
Even if you want to remove Anthony Davis, how do you explain Booker, Herro, SGA, Quickley, etc.? Guys who were outside the top 20 or who weren’t genetically superior. Jamal Murray is not some super athlete and he was one of the best players in the playoffs.

Like yeah, there’s some guys that were just that good like Wall, David, and Boogie but there’s also guys who don’t have better measurables than a Bouknight or Hawkins making a huge impact or becoming stars.

None of them, even the role players, aren’t just three point specialists either making their living being floor spacers. Lol
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I mean Booker, Fox, SGA, Quickley, Maxey, and Murray were all 5* recruits. Some weren't top 10, but all were top 25 aside from Herro, but he was still was top 40.
 
HuskyWarrior611 said:
Even if you want to remove Anthony Davis, how do you explain Booker, Herro, SGA, Quickley, etc.? Guys who were outside the top 20 or who weren’t genetically superior. Jamal Murray is not some super athlete and he was one of the best players in the playoffs.

Like yeah, there’s some guys that were just that good like Wall, David, and Boogie but there’s also guys who don’t have better measurables than a Bouknight or Hawkins making a huge impact or becoming stars.

None of them, even the role players, aren’t just three point specialists either making their living being floor spacers. Lol
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All of those guys were top 30-40 recruits, and a lot of them were 5 star recruits. Just with a simple law of averages, when you bring in 4-5 guys like that you're going to hit on some of them being big time NBA players.

Using Herro and Quickly as an example since they were the same class. Those 2 guys developed really well, same with Keldon Johnson from that class. But the 2 highest recruits were Ashton Hagans and EJ Montgomery who did nothing
 
auror said:
I mean Booker, Fox, SGA, Quickley, Maxey, and Murray were all 5* recruits. Some weren't top 10, but all were top 25. Herro was the only one outside top 25, but still was top 40.
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If it was that easy to produce all stars UNC would’ve at least had one all star since I don’t even know when and Kansas would have a lot more than just Joel Embiid with the talent they get.

No matter what if you’re a top recruit and you say to them “Cal’s players only do well because they were highly ranked” wouldn’t that high ranked recruit think he can do the same then?

He’s at minimum putting busts in the lottery.
 
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Right now Dan Hurley and staff have demonstrated to enough recruits that we are a top echelon program. A couple of more seasons of this and more 5 stars will look this way. The record will speak for itself as well as will the draft picks. It was really enjoyable being unranked and then coming out of that mid year slump and roaring to the NC. The whole college basketball universe saw that jaw dropping performance. Now just have to keep it going. I think they have a winning formula from top to bottom.
 
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JT-55 said:
I'm not sure how coaching staffs balance/juggle recruits at the same position but I would say if Nowell hints at a commitment on this visit the staff would have to accept that right away instead of trying to play games and wait on Fland right? It appears that Flands recruitment is moving slower and would be risky to try and wait.

I would be happier with a Nowell in the hand over a Fland in the bush if you will.
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I completely trust Hurley. I know boring to say. Didn't trust him at all until the month after losing streak. Everything changed for the better. That is hard to do. I assume when a kid visits us he is coming. Why would he not outside of money? We have easily top 5 coaching group in country. Our coaches are just good at what they do. I assume they bring kids in for visits that there is serious mutual interest.
 
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