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Athlete94 said:
All talk, he said same thing about Diaco, if someone better is available, you better believe he pulls the trigger next year.. maybe not this but if if next year is, yeah there's a change... kids got better??? Was he watching the same mess we did...
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That feeling when freescooter is your only like
 
Stairmaster said:
You're sick in the head. Get psychiatric help.
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Very close minded guy - who is living in another era. Given Clyde's minor misdemeanor level offense your position is silly and motivated by I don't know what type of thinking? Probably best not to speculate. You think it's just fine to hold a guy back due to a 13 year old Misdemeanor. You probably think the Crime Bill which incarcerated hundreds of thousands for minor offenses was a great idea too.
 
Stairmaster said:
The fact that you think Edsall being a about leaving and Clyde being arrested are equivalent shows that your mind is not in a place where it can accurately process information and comprehend the world you are living in. Your attempt to tie racial bias into other's difference of opinions and rope politics into a basketball board argument despite the pinned post stating that is not allowed further corroborate the notion that you aren't really all there (although I will say - it is very rich seeing the man who not only thinks women should be in the kitchen and not running universities, but also that concussions are a scam made to turn today's kids into sissies and wusses calling me out for being a social reactionary). The entire body of your posting history is irrational, overly emotional, and borderline insane defenses of UConn BB-related figures you claim to have some personal relation to. Drop the teenage girl hysterics, because the rest of us are tired of dealing with someone who can't act a fifth of his age.
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Ultimately, your problem is dishonesty. You distort someone's position and then rail against it - a true straw man act. I was ahead of my time on concussions and that's why I don't like to see the true dangers of real concussions minimized by the circus we have seen at UConn this year. You don't bring guys back from true serious concussions in a week as happened with Adams and Vital. To me that means they did not have concussions.
It's one thing to say you plan to monitor someone but that's not what was said - it was said they had concussions when they clearly did not. Jackson may be legit.

As for hysterics and mindless name calling - you define it.
 
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walker11 said:
Kudos to Chief's flexibility in finding a way to complain about Clyde not getting a 2nd chance after his 3rd arrest for solicitation.
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You forget - in our system of justice a man gets his day in court. The outcome of this was legally nothingville.
 
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Mr. French said:
Why is this constantly perpetuated?

How good are you at x and o at an elite college level? I'd love to see and hear your ways which you'd improve his x and o ability.

I'm just so sick of people saying simple things like this, or I should say things that they portray as obvious and simple.

You have to be pretty putrid at x and o at this level to be recognized as not good at it. And i assure you, there's only a few people on this board with the knowledge and ability to decipher those things.

Ironically, none of the guys who perpetuate this thought are amongst that group of people who have the ability to know the difference.

Also ironically, most people that commend KOs coaching list his offensive prowess and ability to run things that put our guys in good positions to run offense (and defense for that matter).

In sum: Most of the people commenting on his lack of x and o ability as a coach just don't know what they're talking about.
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Well then he surely isn't getting it across to his players. Also, the defense at times can be just as dreadful as the offense. If it is the players than he definitely isn't recruiting well. Don't blame the conference as that hasn't stopped Cincy and SMU getting better players than us. Either way he is going to be judged my Wins and Losses and for last 3 years we have seen a bad trend that can't continue into next year. Why are there some fans that keeping thinking that KO is this great hope to save our program and we should just have blind faith in him. Sorry, I don't have blind faith in him as I have seen new coaches have success right after a great one leaves(Mike Davis and Tubby Smith) and then fall apart. I'm sorry we can't afford to wallow in mediocrity when we are in the AAC. We don't have that luxury.

I'm willing to give him one more year to prove himself with all his recruits as this year has been tough to figure out because of all the injuries even though the first 3 games weren't impressive against lesser talent.
 
Chief00 said:
You forget - in our system of justice a man gets his day in court. The outcome of this was legally nothingville.
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You forget, that has no bearing on a university's hiring and firing decisions. People don't typically go to jail for low bottom stuff like solicitation. That's not the point.
 
Chief00 said:
I was ahead of my time on concussions and that's why I don't like to see the true dangers of real concussions minimized by the circus we have seen at UConn this year. You don't bring guys back from true serious concussions in a week as happened with Adams and Vital. To me that means they did not have concussions. It's one thing to say you plan to monitor someone but that's not what was said - it was said they had concussions when they clearly did not. Jackson may be legit.
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Since you were ahead of your time on concussions -- can you provide the rest of us what your definition of a concussion is?
 
Chief00 said:
Ultimately, your problem is dishonesty. You distort someone's position and then rail against it - a true straw man act. I was ahead of my time on concussions and that's why I don't like to see the true dangers of real concussions minimized by the circus we have seen at UConn this year. You don't bring guys back from true serious concussions in a week as happened with Adams and Vital. To me that means they did not have concussions.
It's one thing to say you plan to monitor someone but that's not what was said - it was said they had concussions when they clearly did not. Jackson may be legit.

As for hysterics and mindless name calling - you define it.
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Bingo... the guy took 1 sentence out of my post in another thread and then filled in the blanks to create his narrative which completely contradicted what I said. Even putting quotes around something that I never even said. All I see is a hamster wheel turning over and over in this guy's head.
 
yukonyc212 said:
Bingo... the guy took 1 sentence out of my post in another thread and then filled in the blanks to create his narrative which completely contradicted what I said. Even putting quotes around something that I never even said. All I see is a hamster wheel turning over and over in this guy's head.
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Here's a heads-up. Most of us have managed to go years without petty back-and-forth hissy fits. When you are embroiled in several over the course of a week, maybe its a good time to look in the mirror.
 
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walker11 said:
Here's a heads-up. Most of us have managed to go years without petty back-and-forth hissy fits. When you are embroiled in several over the course of a week, maybe its a good time to look in the mirror.
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I'm not going to sit idle when people come at me. Sorry. Maybe that's how you were brought up. Not me bro.
 
Hoophound said:
While many people defend KO (myself included), the honest truth is that one of the highest paid coaches in the country needs to deliver 9 out of 10 seasons. He hasn't been able to produce league dominating teams like Cincinnati and SMU have with what is better talent---at least on paper. Given his good recruiting, you have to question his coaching. He was absolutely masterful in his first couple of seasons, but right now he either doesn't have the players he needs to run his system or in those first two seasons he had players to mask the deficiencies of his system. I'm really not sure what the problem is. It just feels like he's completely lost what seemed like magic in years 1&2.
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Doesn't have the talent 100%..mostly 3rd n 4th year..Facey stepped it up a year too late..
 
yukonyc212 said:
I'm not going to sit idle when people come at me. Sorry. Maybe that's how you were brought up. Not me bro.
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At least be funny with it. The "you're a jerk, no, you're a jerk, no you're a jerk" routine seems like a fast track to ending up on every ignore list, at best. And admit to us - you haven't had season tickets for 25 years you're not close to that old.
 
walker11 said:
At least be funny with it. The "you're a jerk, no, you're a jerk, no you're a jerk" routine seems like a fast track to ending up on every ignore list, at best. And admit to us - you haven't had season tickets for 25 years you're not close to that old.
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Would you like to see pictures of my past season tickets / final 4 tickets. Not sure why you would think I would need to lie about that on a message board? As stated, my sister uses my tickets. I live in New York and can't get to many home games. I go to maybe 5 a year and all the tournament games.
 
yukonyc212 said:
Would you like to see pictures of my past season tickets / final 4 tickets. Not sure why you would think I would need to lie about that on a message board? As stated, my sister uses my tickets. I live in New York and can't get to many home games. I go to maybe 5 a year and all the tournament games.
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how about you and Athlete go make your own message board? I think it'd be best for all parties.
 
BUConn10 said:
I agree. It seems like our teams try to play the same way regardless of the result. We saw a short change up in the middle of this season when we started going inside to Facey and Brimah way more almost out of spite to those harping on it and we saw some interesting results but we completely went away from it and back to a green light for all our guards system after a few games.
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No penetration, no shooters, Facey is the only one who can score on the block..your stuck, no way to adapt..
 
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huskymedic said:
Borges follow-up article: UConn AD David Benedict: Injuries a fair excuse this season for men’s basketball team
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I would lean more towards Borges' original statement that "injuries are usually a rather lame excuse for a team's struggles".

Yes, this team would be better with Gilbert and Larrier. But our problems go much deeper than lack of depth and talent. I know it was early, but we did lose to Northeastern AND Wagner at virtually full strength.
We know Jalen Adams has the ability to take over a game, we've seen Purvis do the same. Facey has turned into a REALLY nice low post player and rebounder. Jackson and Vital can hit jumpshots.
The problem with this team is mentality. Missing countless wide open shots, turning the ball over, lack of movement on offense and several defensive lapses. It's the same thing. Every. Damn. Game. And it's against pretty mediocre competition, outside of the top 3 teams in the conference. These problems fall directly on the players as much as the coaches.

All I guess I'm saying is, this team was unfortunate with the early injuries, but the squad they have right now is more than capable of finishing 4th in the conference, and even that's not really shooting for the stars. We've had several losses this year that are absolute embarrassments for the program. Fine, lose to Cincinnati and Houston. But get blown off our own floor by 15, 20 points? Losing to Northeastern, Wagner and Eastern Carolina? Unacceptable.

I'm not calling for Ollie's head, because really his ability to recruit and relate to players will likely be unmatched by any coach we can get, but AD Dave absolutely should be critical of this team and look at his options more closely.

Here's to hoping everyone that can come back, does come back next year, both staff and players (healthy, players). But if we aren't in competition for the AAC regular season title and lock up an NCAA tournament bid, serious changes might HAVE to be made.
 
Ollie's assets - character, NBA career, liked and admired by everyone -- are irreplaceable. If there are defects to his coaching, they can be addressed by upgrading the assistants. Even JC was helped by Blaney. Maybe KO can find another quality head coach looknig for an easier gig to help him.

However, I'm inclined to the view that the problems are the result of sanctions leading to two successive weak / low-IQ recruiting classes, a partially filled roster also due to recruiting sanctions, plus the spate of injuries. I think KO and the program rebound in a big way the next two years.

In high-level competitive athletics, the line between wins and losses can be quite small. You don't need that many things to go wrong to turn a top team into a loser. We've had plenty of things go wrong. Let's give KO a chance to have things go right again.
 
Also, injuries happen. It's funny in 09 our top scorer and best perimeter defender went down mid season and we still made the final 4. That's what good teams do. They don't make excuses, they trudge on with what they have and overcome adversity. I would say that Dyson was as big a piece to that team than either Gilbert or Larrier would have been to this one.
 
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yukonyc212 said:
Also, injuries happen. It's funny in 09 our top scorer and best perimeter defender went down mid season and we still made the final 4. That's what good teams do. They don't make excuses, they trudge on with what they have and overcome adversity. I would say that Dyson was as big a piece to that team than either Gilbert or Larrier would have been to this one.
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Are you really comparing the two situations?
 
BFieldHusky said:
Are you really comparing the two situations?
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Incredibly, it seems so. Not only was Dyson not the top scorer on that team (he was 4th) - they also had a senior PG named AJ Price, a senior Jeff Adrien (good lord would I love another Jeff Adrien) and a junior center in Hasheem Thabeet - inarguably the best shot blocker we've ever had.
 
yukonyc212 said:
Actually at the time of injury he was the top scorer. Maybe you need to check the stats again genius. The others picked up his scoring after he went down
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Phew thanks, just went back to my genius lab and checked the stats.

"It will do a lot of wear and tear on my body, if they do clean it out because I'll have no meniscus there," said Dyson, who was averaging more than 13 points, second on the team.

Not that it matters - losing Dyson was huge - you're right about that. But it was a team far better equipped to handle an injury.
 
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