ACC replacement list: UConn, USF, Memphis, Tulane, Washington State, Oregon State

[B1GEast]

It would be an absolutely ugly conference footprint, but if offered, UConn would have to join.

If that ends up being the scenario I hope to God dook doesn't get an offer to go elsewhere.

The thought of playing in the new ACC with Syracuse, and BC is utterly disgusting.

We would be giving that conference credibility on the basketball side, something those two could never accomplish on their own

Terrible

 

[WestCoastHusky]

It is very simple - If the Big East and ACC merger will generate more media money vs. both conferences being standalone, it will happen. It will come down to money like always. Schools will be added based on what the TV networks want. It will be decided based on demands from Fox, ESPN, Apple, Amazon, and others etc.

 

[NE Football]

The writing is on the wall. There is no doubt schools like Clemson and UNC are looking for ways out of the conference into the Big 2. College sports overall will be screwed, but what do P2 schools care? As long as they got their money, everyone else can go screw themselves. It is the American way or winner takes all. It is the zero sum mentality in everything we do here in America.

The problem with B1G is that most of their teams are terrible to watch. It’s a very regional conference. The USC and UCLA fans have zero interest in seeing games v Indiana, Illinois, Purdue, Northwestern, Minnesota, Rutgers, Maryland and especially Iowa!

 

[NE Football]

I don’t see how UNC now needing to get the permission of the state system president makes it easier for them to leave the ACC. The talk was making UNC take NC State with them as a package deal in order to get that permission.

 

[CTFAN4LIFE]

The problem with B1G is that most of their teams are terrible to watch. It’s a very regional conference. The USC and UCLA fans have zero interest in seeing games v Indiana, Illinois, Purdue, Northwestern, Minnesota, Rutgers, Maryland and especially Iowa!

The B1G is the most watched conference in the country. They have teams in the mid west and the northeast and soon California and the Pacific Northwest; hardly a regional conference and has the biggest footprint of any conference (by far).

 

[John]

The problem with B1G is that most of their teams are terrible to watch. It’s a very regional conference. The USC and UCLA fans have zero interest in seeing games v Indiana, Illinois, Purdue, Northwestern, Minnesota, Rutgers, Maryland and especially Iowa!

because there's so much interest in watching Seton Hall and Georgetown.

 

[Fishy]

Jim Williams is non key. Spits out every scenario.

CR isn’t over but don’t hold your breath on this one.

Yep. He just tweets wild crap like he's from West Virginia or something.

One thing to remember...if the big brands leave the ACC for the Big Ten and SEC, the Big 12 will come for some of the secondary brands like SU, Pitt, Louisville, VT, etc. There's not a scenario where we're backfilled into an ACC that isn't AAC 2.0 and on a rail out of the power conference structure.

Our absolute best hope for escape into a power conference is the Big 12 somehow decides that basketball in the northeast is something they cannot wait on. I'd put the odds on that as remotely remote, but that's it.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Yep. He just tweets wild crap like he's from West Virginia or something.

One thing to remember...if the big brands leave the ACC for the Big Ten and SEC, the Big 12 will come for some of the secondary brands like SU, Pitt, Louisville, VT, etc. There's not a scenario where we're backfilled into an ACC that isn't AAC 2.0 and on a rail out of the power conference structure.

Our absolute best hope for escape into a power conference is the Big 12 somehow decides that basketball in the northeast is something they cannot wait on. I'd put the odds on that as remotely remote, but that's it.

Are you in favor of shutting down the football program since an invitation to a major is hopeless? If not, why not?

 

[Stinger92860]

Are you in favor of shutting down the football program since an invitation to a major is hopeless? If not, why not?

Not until the worse scenario becomes reality?

 

[Dream Jobbed 2.0]

Yep. He just tweets wild crap like he's from West Virginia or something.

One thing to remember...if the big brands leave the ACC for the Big Ten and SEC, the Big 12 will come for some of the secondary brands like SU, Pitt, Louisville, VT, etc. There's not a scenario where we're backfilled into an ACC that isn't AAC 2.0 and on a rail out of the power conference structure.

Our absolute best hope for escape into a power conference is the Big 12 somehow decides that basketball in the northeast is something they cannot wait on. I'd put the odds on that as remotely remote, but that's it.

In a few years when the Big12 realizes UCF, ASU, Cincy and Houston were total ass additions I’m not sure they’ll itching to add more mouths to feed

 

[John]

Are you in favor of shutting down the football program since an invitation to a major is hopeless? If not, why not?

We heard you the first time, you want our athletic department to be modeled after Seton Hall.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

We heard you the first time, you want our athletic department to be modeled after Seton Hall.

Weak. You and a few others spew misery about UConn's conference situation non-stop even though there is nothing anyone can do about it. Give it a rest. It got old a long time ago.

 

[superjohn]

When the big brands leave, these are the teams the ACC is supposedly targeting to replace them.......

Rumor: Memphis, Tulane, Wazzu, Oregon State, UConn, and USF can join ACC if FSU, Clemson, UNC, and Louisville leave

The ACC can see radical conference realignment in the coming years, and perhaps months, according to PressBox DC's Jim Williams. According to the long-time coll

flywareagle.com

If everyone leaves UConn has a chance of joining. Lolz, no thanks.

 

[ZooCougar]

We’re building that ship again

So that someone can find another creative way to burn it

 

[uconnyankee]

Yep. He just tweets wild crap like he's from West Virginia or something.

One thing to remember...if the big brands leave the ACC for the Big Ten and SEC, the Big 12 will come for some of the secondary brands like SU, Pitt, Louisville, VT, etc. There's not a scenario where we're backfilled into an ACC that isn't AAC 2.0 and on a rail out of the power conference structure.

Our absolute best hope for escape into a power conference is the Big 12 somehow decides that basketball in the northeast is something they cannot wait on. I'd put the odds on that as remotely remote, but that's it.

It really depends on who’s left in ACC. If only 4 schools leave, could see ACC surviving and maybe poaching Big12

 

[CTFAN4LIFE]

It really depends on who’s left in ACC. If only 4 schools leave, could see ACC surviving and maybe poaching Big12

If 4 top ACC brands leave, there is basically no chance any Big12 teams would move to the ACC.

 

[uconnyankee]

If 4 top ACC brands leave, there is basically no chance any Big12 teams would move to the ACC.

Assuming the proverbial 4 leave: Clemson, UNC, FSU and UVA, you still have a league with NC state, Miami, V Tech, UofL, Pitt, Syr, GT and Duke. Cincy and WVU would join that league if money is right. Wouldn’t mind UConn in that group.

 

[Rufus]

If Notre Dame stays independent and if UNC goes to the SEC as the pundits are saying, Miami will be B1G #20 to go along with FSU at #19. Maybe not the same year, but they would be the preferred team #20 if Notre Dame and UNC are off the board for the B1G.

 

[DFW HOYA]

because there's so much interest in watching Seton Hall and Georgetown.

There is actually more interest at a regional level for these two than USC-Rutgers or Oregon-Maryland.

 

[Rufus]

There is actually more interest at a regional level for these two than USC-Rutgers or Oregon-Maryland.

The West Coast schools actually look forward to playing Rutgers and Maryland. Those are golden opportunities for their development officers to engage with alumni on the East Coast to raise funds for the universities. Lots of alumni in NYC and DC corridor that they can tap into with engagement events around athletic events. Same with selling tickets. Now TV ratings might be a different story, but there are benefits to playing the East Coast teams.

 

[CTFAN4LIFE]

Assuming the proverbial 4 leave: Clemson, UNC, FSU and UVA, you still have a league with NC state, Miami, V Tech, UofL, Pitt, Syr, GT and Duke. Cincy and WVU would join that league if money is right. Wouldn’t mind UConn in that group.

Nope - that'd be a lateral move (at best) in terms of football performance and revenue and would be a step down in terms of stability (which is super important/maybe the most important factor of all in the conference realignment/consolidation environment that we're in). Big12 universities are much better off not going to the ACC.

That said, if we go to the leftovers ACC it might be better than our current BE/FB independent situation, but that's still TBD given that ESPN would revise the ACC tv contract for sure.

 

[ZooCougar]

Nope - that'd be a lateral move (at best) in terms of football performance and revenue and would be a step down in terms of stability (which is super important/maybe the most important factor of all in the conference realignment/consolidation environment that we're in). Big12 universities are much better off not going to the ACC.

That said, if we go to the leftovers ACC it might be better than our current BE/FB independent situation, but that's still TBD given that ESPN would revise the ACC tv contract for sure.

It would just look like the AAC but with Wake Forest and a few other ACC leftovers.

 

[CTFAN4LIFE]

Assuming the proverbial 4 leave: Clemson, UNC, FSU and UVA, you still have a league with NC state, Miami, V Tech, UofL, Pitt, Syr, GT and Duke. Cincy and WVU would join that league if money is right. Wouldn’t mind UConn in that group.

I don't disagree with that, but I don't think Miami, Louisville, and Pitt are going to stay in the ACC if four top brands leave.

 

[uconnyankee]

I don't disagree with that, but I don't think Miami, Louisville, and Pitt are going to stay in the ACC if four top brands leave.

That’s why I said it depends on what chips fall.

 

[ScottVib]

I don't disagree with that, but I don't think Miami, Louisville, and Pitt are going to stay in the ACC if four top brands leave.

Even if those brands left (and Louisville & Pitt are less desirable brands to a Big XII already bloated to 16) you'd still have a rump ACC that is better for the athletic department and would feature several long-term rivals. If you had a scenario where the Big XII decided to be the Big XX you're more likely looking at them seeking NC State, Virginia Tech, Miami, and one out of the Georgia Tech, Louisville, Duke (if he Yormark really thinks hoops has value). That leaves the rump ACC with BC, Syracuse, Wake Forest, Pitt, two of Louisville, Georgia Tech, Duke (as well as Stanford, SMU & Cal). From a nostalgia perspective you still get a taste of the Big East that UConn grew up in, albeit under a different name (and nowhere near as sweet), from a football perspective you get a schedule with schools that while currently P4 (at least in name) are programs UConn can compete with.

It won't happen, but really the best thing "sanity-wise" in a scenario where the ACC loses its top brands would be for the ACC and Big XII to partner to swap out brands into a bit more of a geographic alignment. Rump-ACC would swap out Stanford, Cal & SMU for WVU, UCF & Cincy.