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ACC Big East merger

Lafayette said:
It's in the ACC's and Big East's interest to merge and resemble the SEC and use the best teams in a geographic region from Carolinas to Massachusetts.

That would make more predictable and lower transportation costs, renew old rivalries and create amazing new ones. TV revenue would be immense with Duke/UConn 2x and Duke/St. John's 2x etc.

Duke - NC
UConn - CT
St. John's - NY
UNC - NC
Villanova - PA
Syracuse - NY
Virginia - VA
Boston College - MA
Providence - RI
Pittsburgh - PA
NC State - NC
Wake Forest - NC
Georgetown - DC

would rival the SEC for inclusion in the tourney and add football with more parity since we have played UNC and others in the past.

So instead of UConn going to the ACC, why not make a mega East conference - schools like SC, BU, Northeastern, Delaware would want in but they can smartly add teams in the geography instead of this coast to coast budget wasting scheme the ACC has or why we need to head to Milwaukee for Marquette or Omaha for Creighton.
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Add Louisville, West Virginia, and Virginia Tech. 16 basketball, and 12 for football.
 
Lafayette said:
That would tank St. John's and Providence. The rest I think do have FSB (us, Georgetown, Villanova do and I think all the ACC teams there do). But St. John's with Pitino is a TV draw for basketball - Providence can go swim I guess.
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UConn is the only team playing FBS football. Did you miss that they added SMU? Stanford? Cal? UConn could get an invite, I hope, but no P4 will add any "basketball only" school. That ship sailed and sunk in the harbor.
 
HuskyHawk said:
UConn is the only team playing FBS football. Did you miss that they added SMU? Stanford? Cal? UConn could get an invite, I hope, but no P4 will add any "basketball only" school. That ship sailed and sunk in the harbor.
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Yes, saw Cal, SMU, Stanford and that was my quote about cross country travel in the ACC. That is expensive for all schools making those trips. Better to keep things geographically close and use funds to host the Battle of Atlantis with other invited teams.

I liken the SEC model of keeping travel reasonable so East Coast and per @baggerbob add WVU and VA Tech for sure so the travel is kept in check, but Louisville stretches travel a bit.
 
Lafayette said:
Yes, saw Cal, SMU, Stanford and that was my quote about cross country travel in the ACC. That is expensive for all schools making those trips. Better to keep things geographically close and use funds to host the Battle of Atlantis with other invited teams.

I liken the SEC model of keeping travel reasonable so East Coast and per @baggerbob add WVU and VA Tech for sure so the travel is kept in check, but Louisville stretches travel a bit.
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If we all had a giant do-over, you'd put UConn, Cinci and WVU in the ACC. Maybe USF/UCF. Stanford and Cal would go to the Big XII with SMU. That would all make more sense. But nobody has any interest in a hybrid football/basketball league. The Big East got torn apart because of it.
 
Lafayette said:
It's in the ACC's and Big East's interest to merge and resemble the SEC and use the best teams in a geographic region from Carolinas to Massachusetts.

That would make more predictable and lower transportation costs, renew old rivalries and create amazing new ones. TV revenue would be immense with Duke/UConn 2x and Duke/St. John's 2x etc.

Duke - NC
UConn - CT
St. John's - NY
UNC - NC
Villanova - PA
Syracuse - NY
Virginia - VA
Boston College - MA
Providence - RI
Pittsburgh - PA
NC State - NC
Wake Forest - NC
Georgetown - DC

would rival the SEC for inclusion in the tourney and add football with more parity since we have played UNC and others in the past.

So instead of UConn going to the ACC, why not make a mega East conference - schools like SC, BU, Northeastern, Delaware would want in but they can smartly add teams in the geography instead of this coast to coast budget wasting scheme the ACC has or why we need to head to Milwaukee for Marquette or Omaha for Creighton.
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Or they just add UConn and Villanova since they are the only ones that they actually want.
 
Lafayette said:
Yes, saw Cal, SMU, Stanford and that was my quote about cross country travel in the ACC. That is expensive for all schools making those trips. Better to keep things geographically close and use funds to host the Battle of Atlantis with other invited teams.

I liken the SEC model of keeping travel reasonable so East Coast and per @baggerbob add WVU and VA Tech for sure so the travel is kept in check, but Louisville stretches travel a bit.
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?? Louisville is 75 miles from Lexington (UK) via I-64. That's a lot closer to the SEC footprint than either Morgantown (WVU) or Blacksburg (Va-Tech) are to Knoxville. That said, if the SEC wants to expand, there are better candidates in its existing footprint than UL, WVU, or Tech, and petty differences in mileage wouldn't be deciding factors.
 
ZooCougar said:
Or they just add UConn and Villanova since they are the only ones that they actually want.
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They want UConn and Villanova? Really? You are giving ESPN a good laugh. This whole Big East ACC thing is ridiculous. Not going to happen.
uconnyankee said:
Easy…. ACC gets agreement from ESPN that they can add UConn. Or a school or two decides to leave opening spot in ACC.
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ESPN has kept UConn out. It is intentional. If they wanted UConn in, it would have happened. ESPN is not UConn's friend.
 
buddy said:
They want UConn and Villanova? Really? You are giving ESPN a good laugh. This whole Big East ACC thing is ridiculous. Not going to happen.

ESPN has kept UConn out. It is intentional. If they wanted UConn in, it would have happened. ESPN is not UConn's friend.
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ESPN wanted UConn in the Big 12. What I really mean is that there are only a few Big East teams that they really want.
 
ZooCougar said:
ESPN wanted UConn in the Big 12. What I really mean is that there are only a few Big East teams that they really want.
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If ESPN wanted UConn in the Big 12, UConn would be there. I thought Fox was the holdout, but ESPN could have ponied up the money for UConn if they really wanted to. Also, once again, what makes you think that the ACC wants UConn and Villanova. Absolutely no evidence of that anywhere.
 
ZooCougar said:
ESPN wanted UConn in the Big 12. What I really mean is that there are only a few Big East teams that they really want.
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I'm not entirely sure they did. The cynic in me suspects that they were willing to support it because they knew Fox would oppose it.
 
buddy said:
If ESPN wanted UConn in the Big 12, UConn would be there. I thought Fox was the holdout, but ESPN could have ponied up the money for UConn if they really wanted to. Also, once again, what makes you think that the ACC wants UConn and Villanova. Absolutely no evidence of that anywhere.
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Well there were plenty of credible sources that stated that ESPN was in favor of it. I guess you know better than them now?

Only like 2-3 Big East teams have any value, it makes the merger idea seem ludicrous. UConn and Nova might be the only two schools. And there are some ACC schools that want UConn and have wanted them. Just not enough of them and not the right ones.
 
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The UConn women’s program is one that ESPN wishes they had
Exclusively owning the women’s tourney which still has growth potential and which they have for the next 5 years is a great fit. The men are very desirable but ESPN is shut out of post season. And ESPN can make a killing in a growth market .
 
UConn in the Big 12 was a good way for ESPN to get UConn at a discount. It was much less good for Fox because they already have UConn and they would have had to actually pay us something other than the couch cushion money we get now.
 
Fishy said:
UConn in the Big 12 was a good way for ESPN to get UConn at a discount. It was much less good for Fox because they already have UConn and they would have had to actually pay us something other than the couch cushion money we get now.
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How was it a discount for ESPN? Agree that it made zero sense for Fox. That's why ESPN's approval was essentially empty words.
 
AZHuskiePop said:
The UConn women’s program is one that ESPN wishes they had
Exclusively owning the women’s tourney which still has growth potential and which they have for the next 5 years is a great fit. The men are very desirable but ESPN is shut out of post season. And ESPN can make a killing in a growth market .
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I see what you are trying to say here, but UConn W are always in the tournament. They already have UConn.
 
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