ACC Big East merger

[UConnDan97]

My position has always been clear, we need to endure this and build up what needs building (football). We cannot spend our time daydreaming of a future where, similar to the 1980's, urban private schools will be dominated forces and there will be mo correlation between being in a major football conference and being in a major basketball conference.

Your position evidently is to show solidarity with PC & Seton Hall and hope schools in the B1G and SEC will start playing nice and not exploit their advantages.

You can't help him. He's too far gone...

 

[Coyote]

All BE schools? Or, UConn for obvious all sports reasons (except hockey), plus a few specific east coast schools in the nation’s most densely populated metro areas, with LT biggest brands, mucho dinero, original BE rivalries, etc.?

The ACC seems like they are spending almost all their energy chasing BCS invitations. They added 3 programs and aren't even paying them. They have been performing worse than the BE in basketball for like 5 years. I understand why UConn would want to be there, but I don't see why the other BE programs would want that. The C7 made that decision 10 years ago... You got the money, they got the BE name. I think UConn will get in the ACC in the next media cycle.

 

[Coyote]

A seat at the adults table. That is why the Big East would want to merge.

Sorry I guess I touched a nerve. Don't worry UConn will get their invitation the next media cycle. Hopefully they start sharing all their wealth by 2040.

 

[Kolumbo]

Please…. I want to see Big East thrive, but if ACC comes calling UConn is gone.

Well, yeah! That's the easiest decision since pinch hitting the other Derek. I was replying to comments about why the Big East and ACC would want to merge.

I was trying to use the baseball abbreviation for designated hitter and it kept changing to Dan Hurley. That's annoying.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Please…. I want to see Big East thrive, but if ACC comes calling UConn is gone.

How does the ACC come calling? Walk us through what that scenario looks like. Explain to us what new information the ACC will have about UConn that was not available for the last TWENTY TWO YEARS that will make the ACC add us as a full member after us asking to join almost every year since 2003.

 

[uconnyankee]

How does the ACC come calling? Walk us through what that scenario looks like. Explain to us what new information the ACC will have about UConn that was not available for the last TWENTY TWO YEARS that will make the ACC add us as a full member after us asking to join almost every year since 2003.

Easy…. ACC gets agreement from ESPN that they can add UConn. Or a school or two decides to leave opening spot in ACC.

 

[LetsGoUC]

ACC Big East Merger makes 0 sense for ACC. There are basically 4 valuable schools in the Big East for the ACC: UConn, St Johns, Villanova, Georgetown or Marquette. They would be way better just taking those 4 and calling it a day than adding a DePaul or Butler in the mix.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Easy…. ACC gets agreement from ESPN that they can add UConn. Or a school or two decides to leave opening spot in ACC.

So what new information will ESPN get on UConn that it has not had for the last 22 years? You get that ESPN could have told the ACC to add UConn in 2003, right? So what's changed?

 

[KryHavok]

Easy…. ACC gets agreement from ESPN that they can add UConn. Or a school or two decides to leave opening spot in ACC.

Mate, St. Patty's Day was well over a week ago, I hope you're not still tanked cuz there is no way what you wrote is going to happen. That conference has given us the middle finger so many times, and the last addition of CalFordSmu was the biggest middle finger of all. I'll have a better chance of waking up to a Maserati MC20 in my driveway tomorrow than having those rat bastards ever inviting us to their conference. Still, they're fairly stupid...if we change our university's name to like Nutmeg State University, they might consider a scheduling agreement.

 

[CL82]

I'll have a better chance of waking up to a Maserati MC20 in my driveway tomorrow than having those rat bastards ever inviting us to their conference

I wish I owned this car and knew where you lived. Because I would show up tomorrow at like 7 AM and lean on the horn in the driveway.

 

[KryHavok]

I wish I owned this car and knew where you lived. Because I would show up tomorrow at like 7 AM and lean on the horn in the driveway.

If I didn't have put my kids thru college soon, I'd take some of my 401k, buy that car, and pick ya up for a drive to the Rent on gameday.

 

[Kolumbo]

So what new information will ESPN get on UConn that it has not had for the last 22 years? You get that ESPN could have told the ACC to add UConn in 2003, right? So what's changed?

What's changed? That's rich. I'll provide Notes by Cliff rather than the War and Peace version

1. ACC went from being an insider in the P6 to an outsider from the P2
2. FSU and Clemson have been granted an escape portal
3. Former Big East invitees have mostly sheet the bed
4. P4 programs became available!!! yawn...
5. 5 men's natties and a few women's
6. a. Dan Hurley
6. b. Jim Mora

It simply makes ZERO sense that the acc has not grabbed UConn so at some point, someone is going to have to get off the dope and make the call.

 

[CL82]

If I didn't have put my kids thru college soon, I'd take some of my 401k, buy that car, and pick ya up for a drive to the Rent on gameday.

Pssh, they are bright kids. I'm sure they'll get scholarships.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

If I didn't have put my kids thru college soon, I'd take some of my 401k, buy that car, and pick ya up for a drive to the Rent on gameday.

Have him drive to you. You'd have to go an hour and 20 minutes in the wrong direction if you picked him up

 

[Derucky]

It is a real longshot, but this topic is worth its own thread.

On a related but separate note, this forum is becoming a misery. Most of our fanbase is emotionally invested in the failure of UConn athletics, and viciously attack every remotely positive story about realignment options for UConn without ever offering a remotely realistic alternative. We might want to consider changing the title of this forum to the "UConn Sky Is Falling" board.

They're just projecting their own personal problems, like any trolls.

 

[Lafayette]

It's in the ACC's and Big East's interest to merge and resemble the SEC and use the best teams in a geographic region from Carolinas to Massachusetts.

That would make more predictable and lower transportation costs, renew old rivalries and create amazing new ones. TV revenue would be immense with Duke/UConn 2x and Duke/St. John's 2x etc.

Duke - NC
UConn - CT
St. John's - NY
UNC - NC
Villanova - PA
Syracuse - NY
Virginia - VA
Boston College - MA
Providence - RI
Pittsburgh - PA
NC State - NC
Wake Forest - NC
Georgetown - DC

would rival the SEC for inclusion in the tourney and add football with more parity since we have played UNC and others in the past.

So instead of UConn going to the ACC, why not make a mega East conference - schools like SC, BU, Northeastern, Delaware would want in but they can smartly add teams in the geography instead of this coast to coast budget wasting scheme the ACC has or why we need to head to Milwaukee for Marquette or Omaha for Creighton.

 

[HuskyHawk]

It's in the ACC's and Big East's interest to merge and resemble the SEC and use the best teams in a geographic region from Carolinas to Massachusetts.

That would make more predictable and lower transportation costs, renew old rivalries and create amazing new ones. TV revenue would be immense with Duke/UConn 2x and Duke/St. John's 2x etc.

Duke - NC
UConn - CT
St. John's - NY
UNC - NC
Villanova - PA
Syracuse - NY
Virginia - VA
Boston College - MA
Providence - RI
Pittsburgh - PA
NC State - NC
Wake Forest - NC
Georgetown - DC

would rival the SEC for inclusion in the tourney and add football with more parity since we have played UNC and others in the past.

So instead of UConn going to the ACC, why not make a mega East conference - schools like SC, BU, Northeastern, Delaware would want in but they can smartly add teams in the geography instead of this coast to coast budget wasting scheme the ACC has or why we need to head to Milwaukee for Marquette or Omaha for Creighton.

Schools that do not play FBS football are without any value.

 

[Lafayette]

Schools that do not play FBS football are without any value.

That would tank St. John's and Providence. The rest I think do have FSB (us, Georgetown, Villanova do and I think all the ACC teams there do). But St. John's with Pitino is a TV draw for basketball - Providence can go swim I guess.

 

[UConnTrumbull]

That would tank St. John's and Providence. The rest I think do have FSB (us, Georgetown, Villanova do and I think all the ACC teams there do). But St. John's with Pitino is a TV draw for basketball - Providence can go swim I guess.

SJU with Pitino is, what, 3 more years?

 

[huskymedic]

That would tank St. John's and Providence. The rest I think do have FSB (us, Georgetown, Villanova do and I think all the ACC teams there do). But St. John's with Pitino is a TV draw for basketball - Providence can go swim I guess.

Georgetown & Villanova are FCS football - not FBS.

 

[baggerbob]

It's in the ACC's and Big East's interest to merge and resemble the SEC and use the best teams in a geographic region from Carolinas to Massachusetts.

That would make more predictable and lower transportation costs, renew old rivalries and create amazing new ones. TV revenue would be immense with Duke/UConn 2x and Duke/St. John's 2x etc.

Duke - NC
UConn - CT
St. John's - NY
UNC - NC
Villanova - PA
Syracuse - NY
Virginia - VA
Boston College - MA
Providence - RI
Pittsburgh - PA
NC State - NC
Wake Forest - NC
Georgetown - DC

would rival the SEC for inclusion in the tourney and add football with more parity since we have played UNC and others in the past.

So instead of UConn going to the ACC, why not make a mega East conference - schools like SC, BU, Northeastern, Delaware would want in but they can smartly add teams in the geography instead of this coast to coast budget wasting scheme the ACC has or why we need to head to Milwaukee for Marquette or Omaha for Creighton.

Add Louisville, West Virginia, and Virginia Tech. 16 basketball, and 12 for football.

 

[HuskyHawk]

That would tank St. John's and Providence. The rest I think do have FSB (us, Georgetown, Villanova do and I think all the ACC teams there do). But St. John's with Pitino is a TV draw for basketball - Providence can go swim I guess.

UConn is the only team playing FBS football. Did you miss that they added SMU? Stanford? Cal? UConn could get an invite, I hope, but no P4 will add any "basketball only" school. That ship sailed and sunk in the harbor.

 

[Lafayette]

UConn is the only team playing FBS football. Did you miss that they added SMU? Stanford? Cal? UConn could get an invite, I hope, but no P4 will add any "basketball only" school. That ship sailed and sunk in the harbor.

Yes, saw Cal, SMU, Stanford and that was my quote about cross country travel in the ACC. That is expensive for all schools making those trips. Better to keep things geographically close and use funds to host the Battle of Atlantis with other invited teams.

I liken the SEC model of keeping travel reasonable so East Coast and per @baggerbob add WVU and VA Tech for sure so the travel is kept in check, but Louisville stretches travel a bit.

 

[HuskyHawk]

Yes, saw Cal, SMU, Stanford and that was my quote about cross country travel in the ACC. That is expensive for all schools making those trips. Better to keep things geographically close and use funds to host the Battle of Atlantis with other invited teams.

I liken the SEC model of keeping travel reasonable so East Coast and per @baggerbob add WVU and VA Tech for sure so the travel is kept in check, but Louisville stretches travel a bit.

If we all had a giant do-over, you'd put UConn, Cinci and WVU in the ACC. Maybe USF/UCF. Stanford and Cal would go to the Big XII with SMU. That would all make more sense. But nobody has any interest in a hybrid football/basketball league. The Big East got torn apart because of it.

 

[ZooCougar]

It's in the ACC's and Big East's interest to merge and resemble the SEC and use the best teams in a geographic region from Carolinas to Massachusetts.

That would make more predictable and lower transportation costs, renew old rivalries and create amazing new ones. TV revenue would be immense with Duke/UConn 2x and Duke/St. John's 2x etc.

Duke - NC
UConn - CT
St. John's - NY
UNC - NC
Villanova - PA
Syracuse - NY
Virginia - VA
Boston College - MA
Providence - RI
Pittsburgh - PA
NC State - NC
Wake Forest - NC
Georgetown - DC

would rival the SEC for inclusion in the tourney and add football with more parity since we have played UNC and others in the past.

So instead of UConn going to the ACC, why not make a mega East conference - schools like SC, BU, Northeastern, Delaware would want in but they can smartly add teams in the geography instead of this coast to coast budget wasting scheme the ACC has or why we need to head to Milwaukee for Marquette or Omaha for Creighton.

Or they just add UConn and Villanova since they are the only ones that they actually want.

 

[hank970]

Yes, saw Cal, SMU, Stanford and that was my quote about cross country travel in the ACC. That is expensive for all schools making those trips. Better to keep things geographically close and use funds to host the Battle of Atlantis with other invited teams.

I liken the SEC model of keeping travel reasonable so East Coast and per @baggerbob add WVU and VA Tech for sure so the travel is kept in check, but Louisville stretches travel a bit.

?? Louisville is 75 miles from Lexington (UK) via I-64. That's a lot closer to the SEC footprint than either Morgantown (WVU) or Blacksburg (Va-Tech) are to Knoxville. That said, if the SEC wants to expand, there are better candidates in its existing footprint than UL, WVU, or Tech, and petty differences in mileage wouldn't be deciding factors.

 

[buddy]

Or they just add UConn and Villanova since they are the only ones that they actually want.

They want UConn and Villanova? Really? You are giving ESPN a good laugh. This whole Big East ACC thing is ridiculous. Not going to happen.

Easy…. ACC gets agreement from ESPN that they can add UConn. Or a school or two decides to leave opening spot in ACC.

ESPN has kept UConn out. It is intentional. If they wanted UConn in, it would have happened. ESPN is not UConn's friend.

 

[ZooCougar]

They want UConn and Villanova? Really? You are giving ESPN a good laugh. This whole Big East ACC thing is ridiculous. Not going to happen.

ESPN has kept UConn out. It is intentional. If they wanted UConn in, it would have happened. ESPN is not UConn's friend.

ESPN wanted UConn in the Big 12. What I really mean is that there are only a few Big East teams that they really want.

 

[Fishy]

Somebody went and dug this thread out again?

 

[buddy]

ESPN wanted UConn in the Big 12. What I really mean is that there are only a few Big East teams that they really want.

If ESPN wanted UConn in the Big 12, UConn would be there. I thought Fox was the holdout, but ESPN could have ponied up the money for UConn if they really wanted to. Also, once again, what makes you think that the ACC wants UConn and Villanova. Absolutely no evidence of that anywhere.