Given your presumption that the Big XII is the only option, no.
A merged ACC perhaps. It's a small but passionate sample from the orange board, and this is the football thread. They can't seem to figure out what the actual exit fee language means vis-a-vis the GOR.
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You're not saying that Clemson and FSU played themselves by reducing the ACCs payout when UVa and UNC leave? Oh wow. That is the upshot.
I am of course entirely aware. Basketball is important. But it’s far less important than football.
Yes, thanks for stating the obvious again; the Big East without football is limited.
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Football is roughly 80% of the ACC contract. So, basically you are saying that the big east is paid roughly $.20 on the dollar of the ACC. Personally, I don't find much comfort in that.
Are you saying ACC BB is getting that much more than the BE? I've never really looked at the numbers that deeply.
I don't find comfort by being in the Big East but when comparing what the Big East's tv revenue value is you have to compare Olympic sports to Olympic sports.
No, I was responding to the other poster who seem to be suggesting that basketball constitutes 80% of the total ACC contract. It does not. .
No, you don't. When you were going to the store to buy a loaf bread, nobody cares whether you've got a one hour a week part-time job which pays the same hourly as a different guys full-time job. They only care whether you have enough money to pay for the bread. In the end, though the guy with the full-time job definitely has the money to pay for the bread, plus some steaks plus some milk plus a case of beer… Etc..
Look, I stated simply from a comparison standpoint that the value of the BE is on par with the ACC's Olympic sports component. Of course UConn wants P* football tv revenue. Newsflash, we're not there yet. Do we all wish UConn was bringing in P*/40m per year for all sports? Yes. Will we one day? Time will tell.
I think time has told.
That is quite possibly the worst analogy I have ever read.
I'm not sure that that's actually correct. Notre Dame isn't a football member but receives $17 million per year from the ACC. That's what over $10 million more than big East members receive?
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To be fair, he was a superstar.
I get the point you're making, but the analogy still stinks. There are a lot of ways to look at it though. Even if we just look at Olympic sports, the ACC has 18 programs vs the Big East 11 so overall, the ACC is more valuable. Another reason the Big East needs to expand. If only this were all moot at some point.
No, I really don't think you do. Fabricating some kind of equivalency by saying "well we only make $.20 on the dollar, but we're only selling a much less valuable product so we're fine" is a nonsensical position.I get the point you're making, but the analogy still stinks. There are a lot of ways to look at it though. Even if we just look at Olympic sports, the ACC has 18 programs vs the Big East 11 so overall, the ACC is more valuable. Another reason the Big East needs to expand. If only this were all moot at some point.
Not sure about Notre Dame because it might get partial money for football or just some kick back just because they're Notre Dame... Let's just do the per school math for the ACC - they bring in about 480m per year divided by 16 schools (I'll be nice and divide by 16 instead of 17 due to SMU getting zero), so that's 6m per school (assumes 20% for Olympic sports/80% for football).
And unfortunately the coaching hires were PP, BD, and RE2. It's one thing to strike out three times in a row and we did it in the 6th, 7th, and 8th innings while being down by multiple runs... Or, punt, punt, fumble in the 4th quarter down 10 points. We need a hail Mary followed by an on sides kick.
Depends entirely on what a future deal may involve. If the b12 yields more money than the acc and the b10/sec says go away then teams go to the b12