ACC Big East merger

[Travelman6]

When the ACC implodes, grab Boston College, Pitt, and Syracuse. Set up a 4-team football conference (Syracuse, Pitt, UConn, BC) with home/homes so you get 6 conference and 6 OOC games.

14 team basketball conference with East/West divisions. Round robin inter-division then select rivalry out of division games.

West: Syracuse, Pitt, Creighton, Marquette, Butler, DePaul, Xavier
East: UConn, BC, Providence, Seton Hall, St John’s, Georgetown, Villanova

BC can rot for eternity for all I care.

 

[CTBasketball]

BC can rot for eternity for all I care.

Yes I agree 100% normally as a UConn fan. But it’s what’s best for the regional impact of the Big East.

 

[CL82]

Yes I agree 100% normally as a UConn fan. But it’s what’s best for the regional impact of the Big East.

Is it though when you consider the stunning lack of basketball success they ever had? In any event, no school with a football team would join the big east. We are a unicorn in that regard and are actively looking to get out.

 

[CTBasketball]

Is it though when you consider the stunning lack of basketball success they ever had? In any event, no school with a football team would join the big east. We are a unicorn in that regard and are actively looking to get out.

It’s not about success.

 

[BlueHen]

BC can rot for eternity for all I care.

They are off to a good start.

 

[CL82]

It’s not about success.

What is it about then?

 

[Kolumbo]

When the ACC implodes, grab Boston College, Pitt, and Syracuse. Set up a 4-team football conference (Syracuse, Pitt, UConn, BC) with home/homes so you get 6 conference and 6 OOC games.

14 team basketball conference with East/West divisions. Round robin inter-division then select rivalry out of division games.

West: Syracuse, Pitt, Creighton, Marquette, Butler, DePaul, Xavier
East: UConn, BC, Providence, Seton Hall, St John’s, Georgetown, Villanova

Ideally it would be some type of merger and have at least 8 football programs. I don't know if 4 football with a round robin is even allowed.

Current 11 programs. Merge with at least 7 from the ACC to get basketball to 18 and football to 8. It's a pipe dream but so be it. Or 20 & 10.

If we can't have a return to the old Big East Football Conference, I'd like to see:
UConn, Pitt, Syracuse, Louisville, Va Tech, NC State, Georgia Tech, Duke, Wake, SMU, bcu (for ballast chief) to start... Then it depends who else from the ACC would merge if not in a P2.

 

[Kolumbo]

With the announcement of the unequal revenue sharing in the ACC in the key tweets thread, a merger would be more likely. Maybe only 0.005% more likely, but it's something.

The ACC is a disaster. That conference becomes more and more divided every day. It is somewhat good news for Clemson and FSU but probably not good enough $$. Bad news for most of the others. Bonuses based on viewership while some programs get stuck with the crappy time slots. Good stuff.

 

[Fishy]

You all keep predicting disaster for the ACC and it keeps not happening.

We're not merging with them.

 

[ZooCougar]

With the announcement of the unequal revenue sharing in the ACC in the key tweets thread, a merger would be more likely. Maybe only 0.005% more likely, but it's something.

The ACC is a disaster. That conference becomes more and more divided every day. It is somewhat good news for Clemson and FSU but probably not good enough $$. Bad news for most of the others. Bonuses based on viewership while some programs get stuck with the crappy time slots. Good stuff.

They are stuck together. The ACC minnows will take an unequal deal because in their case it’s better than the alternative.

 

[RuffRuff]

They are stuck together. The ACC minnows will take an unequal deal because in their case it’s better than the alternative.

They are - it’s like being in a prenup when you hate your spouse.

 

[Kolumbo]

They are stuck together. The ACC minnows will take an unequal deal because in their case it’s better than the alternative.

For 5 looong years I guess. I'll bet most fans of the minnows would prefer to just move on now, maybe become relevant again in a conference with some unity.

 

[ZooCougar]

For 5 looong years I guess. I'll bet most fans of the minnows would prefer to just move on now, maybe become relevant again in a conference with some unity.

Yeah I am so sure they want to self demote to a G5 conference.

 

[Kolumbo]

Yeah I am so sure they want to self demote to a G5 conference.

Why would they want to do that? They sure would like to enjoy watching basketball again.

 

[noeynox]

Why would they want to do that? They sure would like to enjoy watching basketball again.

If that was the case Cal and Stanford would have stuck around with Wazzou and OSU to rebuild the PAC. Everyone outside the Autonomy conferences would give up a nut to get into the ACC for virtually no revenue like SMU.

 

[HuskyHawk]

Why would they want to do that? They sure would like to enjoy watching basketball again.

Come on, you sound like Nelson. They do enjoy basketball and an ACC team is one of the co-favorites to win it all. Louisville is back. UNC is down, but that won't last.

I don't think UConn fans appreciate just how far below the ACC the Big East is, in an overall perspective for all sports. There are four, there is a huge gap, then probably the MWC, then a gap and then maybe the Big East. For all the talk of the gap between B1G and SEC and Big XII/ACC, that's the gap between an S Class Mercedes and E class, Big East is a used Hyundai Sonata.

 

[CTFAN4LIFE]

Come on, you sound like Nelson. They do enjoy basketball and an ACC team is one of the co-favorites to win it all. Louisville is back. UNC is down, but that won't last.

I don't think UConn fans appreciate just how far below the ACC the Big East is, in an overall perspective for all sports. There are four, there is a huge gap, then probably the MWC, then a gap and then maybe the Big East. For all the talk of the gap between B1G and SEC and Big XII/ACC, that's the gap between an S Class Mercedes and E class, Big East is a used Hyundai Sonata.

UConn just went back to back... if you are comparing apples to apples for Olympic sports, the Big East TV contract just signed is on par with the ACC basketball equivalency (75-80% of its overall media contract).

 

[Kolumbo]

If that was the case Cal and Stanford would have stuck around with Wazzou and OSU to rebuild the PAC. Everyone outside the Autonomy conferences would give up a nut to get into the ACC for virtually no revenue like SMU.

If what were the case? Fans wanting to watch good basketball? It is the case. Even on the cuse board, many of those posters wish they were playing basketball in the Big East. Yes, it's nice to cheer about media revenue, but they would rather root for a team which at least makes the Big Dance. I am sure they would prefer the ACC do what its gonna do sooner rather than later. ACC 2.0 would probably still be on par with the Big XII, ideally.

Come on, you sound like Nelson. They do enjoy basketball and an ACC team is one of the co-favorites to win it all. Louisville is back. UNC is down, but that won't last.

I don't think UConn fans appreciate just how far below the ACC the Big East is, in an overall perspective for all sports. There are four, there is a huge gap, then probably the MWC, then a gap and then maybe the Big East. For all the talk of the gap between B1G and SEC and Big XII/ACC, that's the gap between an S Class Mercedes and E class, Big East is a used Hyundai Sonata.

See my above comment.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Come on, you sound like Nelson. They do enjoy basketball and an ACC team is one of the co-favorites to win it all. Louisville is back. UNC is down, but that won't last.

I don't think UConn fans appreciate just how far below the ACC the Big East is, in an overall perspective for all sports. There are four, there is a huge gap, then probably the MWC, then a gap and then maybe the Big East. For all the talk of the gap between B1G and SEC and Big XII/ACC, that's the gap between an S Class Mercedes and E class, Big East is a used Hyundai Sonata.

This is the stupidest post in the history of the realignment board, which is saying something.

 

[ZooCougar]

Why would they want to do that? They sure would like to enjoy watching basketball again.

Yeah they would enjoy watching basketball more in the AAC for sure.

 

[upstater]

For 5 looong years I guess. I'll bet most fans of the minnows would prefer to just move on now, maybe become relevant again in a conference with some unity.

5? The year is 2025. I don't see anyone moving before 2032 given that the price only drops to $120m around then.

 

[Kolumbo]

5? The year is 2025. I don't see anyone moving before 2032 given that the price only drops to $120m around then.

Who here thinks this ACC agreement means the ACC in 2030 will look the same as today? I sure don't. I just can't see that conference holding as is for that long. Maybe FSU and Clemson pay up and get out sooner. UNC has more money than anyone, it too could bolt. It sounds like it is a heck of a lot cheaper now, especially if the GOR is included in these new figures. Heck $100 mill is a bargain compared to the numbers people were throwing around before.

 

[ZooCougar]

Who here thinks this ACC agreement means the ACC in 2030 will look the same as today? I sure don't. I just can't see that conference holding as is for that long. Maybe FSU and Clemson pay up and get out sooner. UNC has more money than anyone, it too could bolt. It sounds like it is a heck of a lot cheaper now, especially if the GOR is included in these new figures. Heck $100 mill is a bargain compared to the numbers people were throwing around before.

^^^^^^

Not Colombo. But Cluesoe.

 

[Fishy]

For 5 looong years I guess. I'll bet most fans of the minnows would prefer to just move on now, maybe become relevant again in a conference with some unity.

I bet they prefer to stay in the ACC.