ACC Big East merger

[nelsonmuntz]

One of the reasons UConn-B12 talks have stalled... A lot of key CT decision makers remain steadfast in their ACC dream. Pieces like this are for that group.

Dom Amore: The ACC now needs UConn as much as UConn needs the ACC. Oh, how things change

After years of scoffing, the idea of a power conference inviting UConn finally coming from outside CT. Will a change in narrative help?

www.courant.com

I am not sure how much more evidence people need that UConn will never be a full member of the ACC or Big 12 as a one off addition. Unless something cataclysmic happens, like football breaking off, no P4 will add UConn as a one off addition as a full member. The SMU type offer may be available. Is that what you are proposing?

 

[Exit 4]

I am not sure how much more evidence people need that UConn will never be a full member of the ACC or Big 12 as a one off addition. Unless something cataclysmic happens, like football breaking off, no P4 will add UConn as a one off addition as a full member. The SMU type offer may be available. Is that what you are proposing?

Nelson, I’ll break my rule of not responding to your posts one time here. Yes- the SMU type offer is the offer from the B12- deficits thru 2031, then full Membership. However, since it means more large deficits for the school budget and because there is resistance from politicos in the state to join, it hasn’t moved forward. To make the deal we needed to show a love fest to the B12 and funding plan, neither of which really happened. Show me your budget! This dynamic has given lift to the anti B12 faction in our state wishing to slow this down and wait/hope for the ACC. This Amore piece is just another shot from the pro ACC faction inside UConn that wants to wait.

I just hope the B12 resistance squad knows something others don’t about the ACC.

The annual 4/1 exit date is upon us.

And Brett Yormark, our biggest fan, won’t be able to keep the discussion going forever. Nor is he likely to still be there in 2031- they guy moves around.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Nelson, I’ll break my rule of not responding to your posts one time here. Yes- the SMU type offer is the offer from the B12- deficits thru 2031, then full Membership. However, since it means more large deficits for the school budget and because there is resistance from politicos in the state to join, it hasn’t moved forward. To make the deal we needed to show a love fest to the B12 and funding plan, neither of which really happened. Show me your budget! This dynamic has given lift to the anti B12 faction in our state wishing to slow this down and wait/hope for the ACC. This Amore piece is just another shot from the pro ACC faction inside UConn that wants to wait.

I just hope the B12 resistance squad knows something others don’t about the ACC.

The annual 4/1 exit date is upon us.

And Brett Yormark, our biggest fan, won’t be able to keep the discussion going forever. Nor is he likely to still be there in 2031- they guy moves around.

So you are in favor of using tens of millions of dollars of someone else's money to fund losses for the next 7 years so that a league can decide whether they want to add us or not to a league that may or may not even exist by that point?

 

[ZooCougar]

Nelson, I’ll break my rule of not responding to your posts one time here. Yes- the SMU type offer is the offer from the B12- deficits thru 2031, then full Membership. However, since it means more large deficits for the school budget and because there is resistance from politicos in the state to join, it hasn’t moved forward. To make the deal we needed to show a love fest to the B12 and funding plan, neither of which really happened. Show me your budget! This dynamic has given lift to the anti B12 faction in our state wishing to slow this down and wait/hope for the ACC. This Amore piece is just another shot from the pro ACC faction inside UConn that wants to wait.

I just hope the B12 resistance squad knows something others don’t about the ACC.

The annual 4/1 exit date is upon us.

And Brett Yormark, our biggest fan, won’t be able to keep the discussion going forever. Nor is he likely to still be there in 2031- they guy moves around.

And once Yormark is gone. Any wistful hopes of the Big 12 are dead.

The path is clear. Make football the best version of itself as an Indy. Maybe an opportunity for a quality G5 football conf appears or maybe it doesn't. Make the best of the Big East even though it's not optimal. It's still "fun" despite the drawbacks that we don't need to rehash.

Benedict knows what we need, we need more. Until that happens we have to take good care of ourselves.

 

[Kolumbo]

So do BC, WF, and SMU. My point was I don't see a difference between schools like Georgetown, SJU, and these ACC schools that drag the conference

I get your point. Yes, bcu has sucked but I don't think SMU is necessarily a. Every conference has deadweight. SMU has been through many changes and is solid. I still maintain that the Big East programs which did join the ACC have suffered from the regional factor. if bcu were still in the Big East it should be a very good program, if it wanted to be. The ACC has always been puke, UNC, and 1 or 2 wildcards.

Taking the best from each conference is not going to happen. A merger won't happen either, but I do think it makes sense because it is changing the game. Neither conference will win playing by the current rules. Kobayashi Maru

To clarify, I meant Enrollments over 21k, Endowments over $1 billion. It's in wikipedia.

Big East Conference - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Kolumbo]

And I know it doesn't affect the almighty revenue conversation but combining the other sports makes a lot of sense: soccer, lacrosse, baseball, softball, field hockey

 

[Ha Who]

I am a firm believer in rule 1 and Charlie Brown. But these discussions are not as far fetched as people make it. Desperation makes for strange bedfellows. The past is not indicative of the future. After all the US and USSR were allies during the war to defeat Germany. Believe me these are desperate times for all not in the cartel.

 

[ZooCougar]

So do BC, WF, and SMU. My point was I don't see a difference between schools like Georgetown, SJU, and these ACC schools that drag the conference

Lumping in SMU with those two is highly questionable.

 

[Hoophound]

I don't understand how people keep saying the Big East schools (minus UConn obviously) provide value and that a merger is worthwhile. They are the same kind of schools currently weighing the ACC down

The theory is that you need to make Northeast basketball must see tv. There’s so many potential viewers there. By including Georgetown, SJU, Nova, UConn and PC, you grab a bunch of densely populated markets and traditionally solid programs.

 

[cellocgg]

The theory is that you need to make Northeast basketball must see tv. There’s so many potential viewers there. By including Georgetown, SJU, Nova, UConn and PC, you grab a bunch of densely populated markets and traditionally solid programs.

How has that worked out for big market schools like BC, Vandy, and Northwestern?

 

[CL82]

The theory is that you need to make Northeast basketball must see tv. There’s so many potential viewers there. By including Georgetown, SJU, Nova, UConn and PC, you grab a bunch of densely populated markets and traditionally solid programs.

With you until you got to PC...

 

[FfldCntyFan]

With you until you got to PC...

He added them because they have as good of a chance as anyone

 

[Hoophound]

I like PC for two reasons:

1. Their fans care and always show up.
2. Our fans love playing PC. The games have juice.


Compare that to Georgetown. Big name because of Ewing, Mourning, Mutombo and Iverson 100 years ago and no one shows up to watch them.

PC brings some heat and I like it.

 

[ZooCougar]

I like PC for two reasons:

1. Their fans care and always show up.
2. Our fans love playing PC. The games have juice.


Compare that to Georgetown. Big name because of Ewing, Mourning, Mutombo and Iverson 100 years ago and no one shows up to watch them.

PC brings some heat and I like it.

They aren’t even worth thinking about. Total nothingburger school with a boutique athletic department.

 

[jostar1]

 

[nelsonmuntz]

The theory is that you need to make Northeast basketball must see tv. There’s so many potential viewers there. By including Georgetown, SJU, Nova, UConn and PC, you grab a bunch of densely populated markets and traditionally solid programs.

He is just a troll and isn’t even a UConn fan.

 

[cellocgg]

I don't have Twitter but I'm sure we're getting shredded in the comments

 

[Kolumbo]

I don't have Twitter but I'm sure we're getting shredded in the comments

many of the comments are from humorless pukies who miss the point, entirely.