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5 of 20 for 24 Passing Yards - Says It All. What Say You?

CL82 said:
I think that’s just the getting blown out in the big house hangover talking because that thought process is the slippery slope that leads to downgrading and then eventually dropping football. I remember fans and sports writers saying exactly the same thing when we joined the Big East and were struggling to even just make the BET. It was a bad idea then and it’s a bad idea now.
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How do you not understand the financial difference in this play for pay era? Basketball in the Big East was on the same level as the rest of the Big East, your basketball analogy is not a good one.

and BTW you mention "leads to downgrading", we downgraded football when we left the AAC (for sound basketball reasons, i'm not knocking the move), joining a G5 conference for football would be an upgrade. We already have a lot of G5 games on our schedule, making them conference games is an upgrade.
 
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metsfan2323 said:
Get lost with your silly nonsense. The idea is to play teams that have the same football finances as we do so the playing field is level, hopefully we can then gain some traction and turn this thing around like Temple did under Golden when they dropped down to the MAC.

You would rather we constantly try to run this football marathon uphill. It isn't working and its never going to work, and newsflash the fans DON'T like it. We have played two games this year that were enjoyable to watch and neither were against P5 opponents.
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I see improvement with this team and believe they are capable of winning some games later in the season. It took Golden multiple seasons to get to 500 and won 1 game first season.
 
Bongo Fury said:
I see improvement with this team and believe they are capable of winning some games later in the season. It took Golden multiple seasons to get to 500 and won 1 game first season.
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Yes we have a chance against the G5 competition on our schedule. I agree. Thanks for proving my point, those games will be fun to watch. Why not play more G5 and less P5 and have more fun? Even more fun if they are conference games.

and G5 teams do get upgraded to the P5 if they are good. The only thing anybody respects is wins. So why not schedule more games that we can win? I'm not giving up on the P5 dream, I want to give us a better chance for an upgrade.

Heck North Dakota State gets talked about more for a P5 upgrade than we do, they have built a football powerhouse playing a lousy schedule with less money than we have.
 
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metsfan2323 said:
How do you not understand the financial difference in this play for pay era? Basketball in the Big East was on the same level as the rest of the Big East, your basketball analogy is not a good one.

and BTW you mention "leads to downgrading", we downgraded football when we left the AAC (for sound basketball reasons, i'm not knocking the move), joining a G5 conference for football would be an upgrade. We already have a lot of G5 games on our schedule, making them conference games is an upgrade.
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UConn most certainly was not at the level of the rest of the Big East when it first joined. We struggled to compete. I’m not a fan of the “this is too hard, let’s try something easier“ school of thought as it pertains to athletics. deciding you can’t compete and limiting yourself to playing the bottom of FBS football only is a hairs breath away from the siding that that’s too hard and playing only FCS teams. That’s the mindset you’re proposing.

Yesterday sucked, we knew it was going to, but that’s no reason to metaphorically curl into the fetal position.
 
CL82 said:
Yesterday sucked, we knew it was going to, but that’s no reason to metaphorically curl into the fetal position.
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Wrong. No one is proposing we curl into the fetal position. I want an upgrade. Independence is the bottom of the barrel, especially with the new playoff landscape, upgrade to a G5 conference for football. Any G5 conference I don't care. Look at what Liberty and Western Kentucky did yesterday. Ideally the MAC would be a great fit.

Stop this delusional nonsense that playing more P5 games brings us closer to being a P5 team.
 
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Chin Diesel said:
They are hitting receivers I'm the hands. Ball touches hand means WR has to make the catch.
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What game are you watching? Zion does ocassionally make a good throw but they are few and far between. He misses swing passes regularly. He rarely if ever completes a pass between the numbers. I am starting to wonder if he can see receivers in the center of the field. Before we blame the receivers, let's dependably get them the ball.
 
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metsfan2323 said:
Wrong. No one is proposing we curl into the fetal position. I want an upgrade. Independence is the bottom of the barrel, especially with the new playoff landscape, upgrade to a G5 conference for football. Any G5 conference I don't care. Look at what Liberty and Western Kentucky did yesterday.

Stop this delusional nonsense that playing more P5 games brings us closer to being a P5 team.
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I respectfully disagree that we shouldn’t play P5 teams. Respectfully disagree that lowering the level of your competition is the path to becoming a better football team.
 
metsfan2323 said:
Yes we have a chance against the G5 competition on our schedule. I agree. Thanks for proving my point, those games will be fun to watch. Why not play more G5 and less P5 and have more fun?
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Georgia Tech is a P5. So is Colorado. And, of course BC. With a healthy team, those could/should be very entertaining games. With the current depleted squad, not so much, as quality depth is a major problem.

Thing is, these games often get scheduled years in advance. When this one was scheduled, I'd imagine DB figured Michigan would be good, but I don't think he figured national championship good. Michigan is currently among the elite of the P5. It's unfair to suggest all P5 games would look like yesterday's.
 
businesslawyer said:
Wow. Too bad that wasn’t pointed out at the time.

I understand that the move to the Big East was both necessary and beneficial for basketball. That didn’t mean we needed to pretend it was good for football also.
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Lol. I think most of us naïvely expected improvement by now. Nobody foresaw shutting down the program in 2020 and the catastrophic impacts it would have on the program.

I just know if we don’t improve the talent level and start scheduling more winnable games then the misery level will continue.
 
I'm in awe of the reaction. Did we really think Mora was going to have us "competing" on the road against a playoff team in year 1? Defensively they forced some punts and got some sacks. Contrast that with the defenses we saw under the previous regime. Offensively the OL is the best group after the other units have been hit with heavy injuries. Keep hitting that portal and let's see if the offense can be developed from abominable to mediocre.
 
Palatine said:
What game are you watching? Zion does ocassionally make a good throw but they are few and far between. He misses swing passes regularly. He rarely if ever completes a pass between the numbers. I am starting to wonder if he can see receivers in the center of the field. Before we blame the receivers, let's dependably get them the ball.
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I am glad that there is some reason on this board. Objectively speaking, 24 yards is 24 yards - seriously? To be clear, I would have been satisfied with him hitting 75% of those gimme passes and a couple nice attempts downfield. Instead it was kind of embarrassing to watch our offense sputter the way that it did.

I did see some nice things on Defense, wasn’t all bad yesterday and keep scheduling these games! We need to up our roster and improve conditioning of our athletes because these injuries seem abnormally high.
 
Palatine said:
What game are you watching? Zion does ocassionally make a good throw but they are few and far between. He misses swing passes regularly. He rarely if ever completes a pass between the numbers. I am starting to wonder if he can see receivers in the center of the field. Before we blame the receivers, let's dependably get them the ball.
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He threw a terrible swing pass to a covered receiver for an incompletion, when right behind that receiver on the sideline was a completely uncovered Clercius.

The game is just moving so fast for him now that he isn’t recognizing these open players.

The staff is also dumbing down the offense for him to make it easier for him. Which makes it easy for defenses.
 
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Palatine said:
What game are you watching? Zion does ocassionally make a good throw but they are few and far between. He misses swing passes regularly. He rarely if ever completes a pass between the numbers. I am starting to wonder if he can see receivers in the center of the field. Before we blame the receivers, let's dependably get them the ball.
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You make no mention of WR's routinely dropping passes.

Fail. Again. As expected.
 
metsfan2323 said:
Ideally the MAC would be a great fit.
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Do you want basketball to join the MAC? Unless you do, UConn is not playing football in the MAC.
Do you want basketball to join the Sun Belt? Unless you do, UConn is not playing football in the Sun Belt.
Do you want basketball to join CUSA? Unless you do, UConn is not playing football in CUSA.

These leagues are not taking an associate football member. They have said it time, after time, after time, after time.

I'd rather lose 59-0 at Michigan for $1.8m than at Western Kentucky in league play and the entire fanbase agrees.
 
noeynox said:
I'm in awe of the reaction. Did we really think Mora was going to have us "competing" on the road against a playoff team in year 1? Defensively they forced some punts and got some sacks. Contrast that with the defenses we saw under the previous regime. Offensively the OL is the best group after the other units have been hit with heavy injuries. Keep hitting that portal and let's see if the offense can be developed from abominable to mediocre.
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This appears to be the default reaction to avoid the question on Turner.

No one expected us to be competitive with the number of injuries we had - not one person on this board. But yesterday there wasn’t even a trip to the red zone.

Now let’s talk about the most important position on the field - QB.

24 yards and last week not attempting a pas over 2o yards. Should we experiment with new QB next week - that is the question.
 
TouchdownHusky said:
Indeed, the passing attack is a joke. No execution, no idea of how to coach it. One place they could start to maybe, possibly, see a glimour of improvement would be in the center of the field. Turner does not have the accuracy, and maybe not the arm strength to complete sideline passes with tight coverage. He doesn't. Please, for the love of God, throw to the center of the field (that thing about shortest distance between two points). Throw short across the middle, throw intermediate passes and some long throw. The sidelines are not working, for whatever reason.
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Your obsession with the passing game is really unhealthy. I don't even disagree, but its creepy how its the only thing you've ever posted about.

"Well its always bad" yeah so is a lot of stuff but you only talk about the passing game, its weird!
 
The schedule this year is what it should be.

- playing ONE game a year at a powerhouse that we have no chance against makes us a lot of money, and also gives fans the chance to travel to some great venues

-1 fcs game, ideally against a local school

The remainder of the schedule should be split between:

-we should be setting up home and homes with regional p5 teams like cuse, bc, Rutgers, as well as other mid tier p5 teams. If mora is the guy eventually we should be able to at least be competitive with them. This year we are not ready to be but schedules get made in advance

- and then we should have several games against g5 teams that we can and in some cases should beat
 
zls44 said:
Do you want basketball to join the MAC? Unless you do, UConn is not playing football in the MAC.
Do you want basketball to join the Sun Belt? Unless you do, UConn is not playing football in the Sun Belt.
Do you want basketball to join CUSA? Unless you do, UConn is not playing football in CUSA.
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Nope, you are not paying close enough attention. After we announced we were leaving the AAC the MAC commissioner was asked about UCONN football joining the MAC in an interview and he did not say no. Last year CUSA called and asked us to join.

ESPN controls the MAC, don't you work at ESPN? You think your company might want to sell more of it's ESPN + subscriptions?
 
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UGo said:
This appears to be the default reaction to avoid the question on Turner.

No one expected us to be competitive with the number of injuries we had - not one person on this board. But yesterday there wasn’t even a trip to the red zone.

Now let’s talk about the most important position on the field - QB.

24 yards and last week not attempting a pas over 2o yards. Should we experiment with new QB next week - that is the question.
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He may not be the guy. I'm not in favor of throwing true a freshman out on the field with a below average supporting cast. People that follow UConn should know from Tim Boyle that is a situation that could do more harm than good for a player's development. I'm afraid here the coaches were forced to do this due to a lack of options. QB1 down a few plays into game 1. Millen and Puma not healthy. The kid has not been good but should not be out there.
 
metsfan2323 said:
Nope, you are not paying close enough attention. After we announced we were leaving the AAC the MAC commissioner was asked about UCONN football joining the MAC in an interview and he did not say no. Last year CUSA called and asked us to join.

ESPN controls the MAC, don't you work at ESPN? You think your company might want to sell more of it's ESPN + subscriptions?
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1. The MAC doesn't want associate members. They've said it repeatedly.
2. Has it occurred to you that my work background is exactly why I know this fact (UConn football is not selling a single E+ subscription, not with Hockey East now onboard)
 
zls44 said:
The MAC doesn't want associate members. They've said it repeatedly.
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Right, and conferences are never expanding until they announce they are expanding. What gets said in public and what happens behind the scenes are not always the same thing. I know I saw the MAC commissioner get asked about UCONN the month after we announced we were leaving the AAC and he gave vague non-committal answer.
 
metsfan2323 said:
Right, and conferences are never expanding until they announce they are expanding. What gets said in public and what happens behind the scenes are not always the same thing. I know I saw the MAC commissioner get asked about UCONN the month after we announced we were leaving the AAC and he gave vague non-committal answer.
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Here's how that conversation goes

"We would like to join you for football"
"Excellent. You have to be an all-sports member, we would love to have UConn basketball help elevate the MAC... hello?"
dial tone

You have to give something to get something.
 
This is who we have on our schedule the rest of this season:

at N.C. State (ACC)
FRESNO ST. (MWC)
at FIU (CUSA)
at Ball State (MAC)
~ bye week ~
BOSTON COLLEGE (ACC)
UMASS (Ind)
LIBERTY (Ind)
at Army (Ind)

This is who we have on our schedule next season:

N.C. STATE (ACC)
at Georgia St. (Sun Belt)
FIU (CUSA)
DUKE (ACC)
UTAH ST. (MWC)
at Rice (CUSA)
USF (AAC)
at Boston College (ACC)
at Tennessee (SEC)
at James Madison (Sun Belt)
SACRED HEART** (FCS)
at UMass (Ind)

It's still very rare that we face schools on the level of Michigan. We had the additional bad luck of having way too many skill players injured so to say we were in ridiculously far over our heads is the understatement of the year. Michigan played what - 7 qbs who all had at least 1 reception? We have one healthy QB on our roster. Overall they have 50 more players on their roster that us. Personnel-wise & talent-wise we're not even in the same stratosphere.

There's nothing wrong with our current indy schedule. At season's start with a healthy roster, several of these games looked to be competitive if not winnable. These are very manageable schedules IF Mora keeps working the transfer portal and getting better players in here.
 
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zls44 said:
Here's how that conversation goes

"We would like to join you for football"
"Excellent. You have to be an all-sports member, we would love to have UConn basketball help elevate the MAC...hello?"
dial tone

You have to give something to get something.
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The MAC would be more of an ESPN decision than a MAC commissioner decision.
 
metsfan2323 said:
Get lost with your silly nonsense. The idea is to play teams that have the same football finances as we do so the playing field is level, hopefully we can then gain some traction and turn this thing around like Temple did under Golden when they dropped down to the MAC.

You would rather we constantly try to run this football marathon uphill. It isn't working and its never going to work, and newsflash the fans DON'T like it. We have played two games this year that were enjoyable to watch and neither were against P5 opponents.
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You enjoy watching UConn play Central?

I would rather get rid of the program than drop down to FCS.
 
Broadcasters during Michigan game questioned UConn's future D1 football program. They said UConn is a premier bb program.
 
superjohn said:
You enjoy watching UConn play Central?

I would rather get rid of the program than drop down to FCS.
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Central was more enjoyable to watch than playing Michigan, nothing else needs to be said. The Boneyard was dead all last week leading up to the game.

No one is suggesting we drop down to FCS, I want an upgrade to a G5 conference.

Impressive strawman though!
 
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