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Start Jackson at the 4, push Hawkins to the 3.
Or lie to him and then not do that. That's a path to losing Johnson, who is better than either of these guys. He needs to play. A lot.
 
Or lie to him and then not do that. That's a path to losing Johnson, who is better than either of these guys. He needs to play. A lot.
He can still play 25 minutes a night while not starting. That's a big upgrade from 4 minutes a night.
 
Or lie to him and then not do that. That's a path to losing Johnson, who is better than either of these guys. He needs to play. A lot.
Not really. There’s still 18-20 minutes a game for Johnson in that lineup. Basically the same minutes Hawkins played last season. You would just stagger lineups. At the under 12 sun out Jackson and put Johnson at the 4. At the under 8 put Jackson back in a point, clingan at the 5, Karaban at the 3 and Floyd at the 2 and then you’re big. That team would be incredibly versatile.

Hurley just can’t get lost in the game and forget to sub. No one on that team should be playing more than 30 minutes
 
Not really. There’s still 18-20 minutes a game for Johnson in that lineup. Basically the same minutes Hawkins played last season. You would just stagger lineups. At the under 12 sun out Jackson and put Johnson at the 4. At the under 8 put Jackson back in a point, clingan at the 5, Karaban at the 3 and Floyd at the 2 and then you’re big. That team would be incredibly versatile.

Hurley just can’t get lost in the game and forget to sub. No one on that team should be playing more than 30 minutes
Bah 20 minutes isn't enough. Neither of the guys you are bringing in are as good. Johnson is likely the 4th best talent on the roster, even with these guys. Possibly better than that. Has star potential and these transfers do not. I expect Johnson will be the backup 5 as well (don't expect Clingan to play much). We also need Akok to get minutes at the 4, he may win that job. Then there is Springs. In short, the one position where we are set is the 4. Andre should be a 1-3. Hawkins is not strong enough to be a 3 and AJ isn't big enough to be a 4. They'd get mauled. Last thing I want is Hurley to turn UConn into URI.

Totally agree with the last sentence though. He needs to sub way more often.
 
Bah 20 minutes isn't enough. Neither of the guys you are bringing in are as good. Johnson is likely the 4th best talent on the roster, even with these guys. Possibly better than that. Has star potential and these transfers do not. I expect Johnson will be the backup 5 as well (don't expect Clingan to play much). We also need Akok to get minutes at the 4, he may win that job. Then there is Springs. In short, the one position where we are set is the 4. Andre should be a 1-3. Hawkins is not strong enough to be a 3 and AJ isn't big enough to be a 4. They'd get mauled. Last thing I want is Hurley to turn UConn into URI.

Totally agree with the last sentence though. He needs to sub way more often.

You have no idea how good Johnson is. Weren't you super high on Diggins and Gaffney last week . He may be so good he warrants more minutes but 20 or so until he takes over next year sounds good to me
 
You have no idea how good Johnson is. Weren't you super high on Diggins and Gaffney last week . He may be so good he warrants more minutes but 20 or so until he takes over next year sounds good to me
He's good. I was the one all season saying the "play Diggins" people were crazy. His metrics, especially on D, were worse than the walk ons. Gaffney was an acceptable backup PG, who improved his defense and A-TO ratio, and strangely lost his shot. I have no doubt Hurley would love to have him back and we'll be lucky to get a backup PG who is as good.

There is only one reason Johnson didn't play 20+ minutes last year - Whaley got an extra season and Hurley was in love with his defense. It was a mistake to play Whaley so much with Sanogo.
 
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He's good. I was the one all season saying the "play Diggins" people were crazy. His metrics, especially on D, were worse than the walk ons. Gaffney was an acceptable backup PG, who improved his defense and A-TO ratio, and strangely lost his shot. I have no doubt Hurley would love to have him back and we'll be lucky to get a backup PG who is as good.

There is only one reason Johnson didn't play 20+ minutes last year - Whaley got an extra season and Hurley was in love with his defense. It was a mistake to play Whaley so much with Sanogo.

No it wasn’t a mistake to play Whaley so much. Why? We had no options. I mean Samson looks like he can be ok but he wasn’t ready at all. Lost on defense, fouled on every breath just not ready at all. Looks like he may be good but marking him down for 20 minutes or more would be a mistake. Same with Akok. If there’s another answer out there take it.
 
He's good. I was the one all season saying the "play Diggins" people were crazy. His metrics, especially on D, were worse than the walk ons. Gaffney was an acceptable backup PG, who improved his defense and A-TO ratio, and strangely lost his shot. I have no doubt Hurley would love to have him back and we'll be lucky to get a backup PG who is as good.

There is only one reason Johnson didn't play 20+ minutes last year - Whaley got an extra season and Hurley was in love with his defense. It was a mistake to play Whaley so much with Sanogo.
I think from Hurley's comments it was pretty clear both sides decided it was best for Gaffney to move on
 
Things look like they are heating up a bit. Newton, Ramy, Carter, and Richard seem to be the main 4 getting interest, although I'd love to get on this Charlotte kid too. We definitely need to bring in at least 2 guys - wonder if we'd take 3.
I'd be happy with any two from a group of these four plus Reeves.
 
Or lie to him and then not do that. That's a path to losing Johnson, who is better than either of these guys. He needs to play. A lot.
We don't yet know Johnson is better. He started playing hoops at 16 years old, I believe, so lots of upside but still totally unproven.
 

1. Nijel Pack
2. KJ Williams
3. Johni Broome
4. Norchad Omier
5. Mark Sears
6. Brandon Murray
7. Trevon Brazile
8. Tristen Newton
9. Terrence Shannon Jr.
10. Fardaws Aimaq
11. Andre Curbelo
12. Jahmir Young
13. Will Richard
14. Courtney Ramey
15. Tanner Holden
16. Jake Stephens
17. Noah Carter
18. Manny Bates
19. Kario Oquendo
20. Antonio Reeves
90. Rahsool Diggins
NR: Jalen Gaffney
 
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1. Nijel Pack
2. KJ Williams
3. Johni Broome
4. Norchad Omier
5. Mark Sears
6. Brandon Murray
7. Trevon Brazile
8. Tristen Newton
9. Terrence Shannon Jr.
10. Fardaws Aimaq
11. Andre Curbelo
12. Jahmir Young
13. Will Richard
14. Courtney Ramey
15. Tanner Holden
16. Jake Stephens
17. Noah Carter
18. Manny Bates
19. Kario Oquendo
20. Antonio Reeves
90. Rahsool Diggins
NR: Jalen Gaffney
Ouch
 

1. Nijel Pack
2. KJ Williams
3. Johni Broome
4. Norchad Omier
5. Mark Sears
6. Brandon Murray
7. Trevon Brazile
8. Tristen Newton
9. Terrence Shannon Jr.
10. Fardaws Aimaq
11. Andre Curbelo
12. Jahmir Young
13. Will Richard
14. Courtney Ramey
15. Tanner Holden
16. Jake Stephens
17. Noah Carter
18. Manny Bates
19. Kario Oquendo
20. Antonio Reeves
90. Rahsool Diggins
NR: Jalen Gaffney
No idea what ESPN is using for its rankings. But for comparison purposes, Even Miyakawa has Gaffney at 112 and Sool at 241. And he's using maths.

Among only PGs, Gaffney is 39, Sool is 71.

EvanMiya.com's top 10 PGs are: Gaines, Pack, Curbelo, Miller, Toussaint, Pinson, Odom, Ramey, Hannibal, and Llewellyn.

Shannon is #1 overall, as a SG. Murray, Nolley, Richard, Friedel, the other SGs in top 20.
 
No idea what ESPN is using for its rankings. But for comparison purposes, Even Miyakawa has Gaffney at 112 and Sool at 241. And he's using maths.

Among only PGs, Gaffney is 39, Sool is 71.

EvanMiya.com's top 10 PGs are: Gaines, Pack, Curbelo, Miller, Toussaint, Pinson, Odom, Ramey, Hannibal, and Llewellyn.

Shannon is #1 overall, as a SG. Murray, Nolley, Richard, Friedel, the other SGs in top 20.

Using maths is kinda silly though with infinitesimally small samples.
 
Using maths is kinda silly though with infinitesimally small samples.
In Sool's case, you can make a point. But plenty of these guys do have decent sample sizes. And I'll trust maths over talking heads who've probably never seen more than a game or a short highlight clip from most of the portal kids.
 
No it wasn’t a mistake to play Whaley so much. Why? We had no options. I mean Samson looks like he can be ok but he wasn’t ready at all. Lost on defense, fouled on every breath just not ready at all. Looks like he may be good but marking him down for 20 minutes or more would be a mistake. Same with Akok. If there’s another answer out there take
We don't yet know Johnson is better. He started playing hoops at 16 years old, I believe, so lots of upside but still totally unproven.
He may not reach his potential until he is 23 or 24
 
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In Sool's case, you can make a point. But plenty of these guys do have decent sample sizes. And I'll trust maths over talking heads who've probably never seen more than a game or a short highlight clip from most of the portal kids.

Ya I was referring to Sool. I am far from anti-analytics. They just need to be taken in within the right context and are constantly evolving. 10 years ago people cared about PER.

Sool's sample size is too small. His body is also way too underdeveloped to guess how he ends up. I think he actually does end up quite good if and when his body develops.
 
Ya I was referring to Sool. I am far from anti-analytics. They just need to be taken in within the right context and are constantly evolving. 10 years ago people cared about PER.

Sool's sample size is too small. His body is also way too underdeveloped to guess how he ends up. I think he actually does end up quite good if and when his body develops.
Sure. Small sample size. And players from cupcake schools blew through his defense like a chair would be an upgrade. Then Hurley had him practice all year and despite the need, didn’t play him. We can only speculate, but there is no chance Sool was playing great in practice.
 
Sure. Small sample size. And players from cupcake schools blew through his defense like a chair would be an upgrade. Then Hurley had him practice all year and despite the need, didn’t play him. We can only speculate, but there is no chance Sool was playing great in practice.

Yes, for a player like Sool the eye test is more appropriate. And that GTown game was alarming. Not being able to beat out a version of Gaff Hurley has 0 trust in? Not good. I just think he could be good down the line when he no longer has the body of a 12 year old.
 

1. Nijel Pack
2. KJ Williams
3. Johni Broome
4. Norchad Omier
5. Mark Sears
6. Brandon Murray
7. Trevon Brazile
8. Tristen Newton
9. Terrence Shannon Jr.
10. Fardaws Aimaq
11. Andre Curbelo
12. Jahmir Young
13. Will Richard
14. Courtney Ramey
15. Tanner Holden
16. Jake Stephens
17. Noah Carter
18. Manny Bates
19. Kario Oquendo
20. Antonio Reeves
90. Rahsool Diggins
NR: Jalen Gaffney
Newton and then either Richard/Ramey would be a dream offseason
 
Newton and then either Richard/Ramey would be a dream offseason
Prefer Ramey over Richard. We need at least 2 guys who can run the point if need be. Newton, Ramey/Young, and Richard as a luxury would be a perfect world, but I’m also fine with just taking 2 guys as long as it’s Newton and Ramey/Young (Ramey seems more realistic).
 
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Andre should be a 1-3. AJ isn't big enough to be a 4. They'd get mauled. Last thing I want is Hurley to turn UConn into URI.
Jackson is 6'6" with long arms and big hops. Nova just got to the Final Four starting a 6'7" PF and 6'8" C. It will be match-up dependent (a time like this year's Purdue could give a smaller line-up trouble).

But for the most part I don't think Jackson is too small to play the 4 in modern day college basketball. Especially if the other guards on the roster are long... Hawkins is 6'5" and a lot of the portal guards and wings we are recruiting are 6'5" or bigger.

Don't think AJ will log 30MPG at the 4, but he could be serviceable there for 12 MPG.

A starting line-up of 4 guards / wings at 6'5" / 6'6" with 6'9" Sanogo at center has plenty of length to be a disruptive defensive team.
 
Prefer Ramey over Richard. We need at least 2 guys who can run the point if need be. Newton, Ramey/Young, and Richard as a luxury would be a perfect world, but I’m also fine with just taking 2 guys as long as it’s Newton and Ramey/Young (Ramey seems more realistic).
I'd love for us to get Newton + Richard and then a 1 year grad transfer true point to give back-up minutes of the bench.

There will be plenty of guys on next year's team capable of handling the basketball.

I think Richard is going to be really tough to pull out of SEC territory though.

I do live in Nashville about 5 minutes from the Belmont campus. Maybe I'll go put some UConn posters up on the lawn outside his dorm...
 
Jackson is 6'6" with long arms and big hops. Nova just got to the Final Four starting a 6'7" PF and 6'8" C. It will be match-up dependent (a time like this year's Purdue could give a smaller line-up trouble).

But for the most part I don't think Jackson is too small to play the 4 in modern day college basketball. Especially if the other guards on the roster are long... Hawkins is 6'5" and a lot of the portal guards and wings we are recruiting are 6'5" or bigger.

Don't think AJ will log 30MPG at the 4, but he could be serviceable there for 12 MPG.

A starting line-up of 4 guards / wings at 6'5" / 6'6" with 6'9" Sanogo at center has plenty of length to be a disruptive defensive team.
We’ll be rolling out Adama and Akok/Samson game 1. Guaranteed.
 
We’ll be rolling out Adama and Akok/Samson game 1. Guaranteed.
I really hope you're wrong. But knowing Hurley, this is probably right.

Edit: This transfer window will tell us all we need to know. If they bring in 2 guards who are expecting to start, I don't see how you get Akok/Samson into the starting lineup without an injury. Hurley already said Hawkins, AJ and Sanogo are starters for next year.
 
Jackson is 6'6" with long arms and big hops. Nova just got to the Final Four starting a 6'7" PF and 6'8" C. It will be match-up dependent (a time like this year's Purdue could give a smaller line-up trouble).

But for the most part I don't think Jackson is too small to play the 4 in modern day college basketball. Especially if the other guards on the roster are long... Hawkins is 6'5" and a lot of the portal guards and wings we are recruiting are 6'5" or bigger.

Don't think AJ will log 30MPG at the 4, but he could be serviceable there for 12 MPG.

A starting line-up of 4 guards / wings at 6'5" / 6'6" with 6'9" Sanogo at center has plenty of length to be a disruptive defensive team.

I don’t think nova had more than 1 player 6’7 or over. Dixon is lucky if he’s 6’7 and Slater is 6’5 maybe 6’6. Everyone else 6’4 or less.

Agree kinda like that lineup with Sanogo at the 5. Especially if we can land big guards like Newton.
 
We’ll be rolling out Adama and Akok/Samson game 1. Guaranteed.
With the roster currently constructed, I'm leaning this way too.

Keep in mind, the numbers I'm assigning are more for reference than static positions:

5s: Sanogo, Clingan, Springs
4s: Akok, Johnson
3s: Jackson, Karaban
2s: Hawkins, Floyd

I've read a lot of people dreaming about smaller-ish lineups, but we got a lot of size to be playing smaller-ish lineups for a lot of minutes.

That doesn't mean we can't be a four-out team: Akok, Johnson and Karaban are all players I see playing the 4 and all have stretch ability.

One smallish lineup I see working is having Johnson play the 5 when Sanogo is resting. Something like Johnson/Karaban/Jackson/Hawkins/5th guy can even play five-out. Also, if Clingan's outside shooting is legit, we have five-out possibilities there too.
 
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