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I'm not getting all the we have a guard crunch posts. We have one guard who can handle and score on the entire roster as of now.
Yeah I don't really get it. We have 5 open scholarships and it seems like some people think we're set at basically every position. We have a ton of minutes to offer guards
I’m not saying we are set at guard. I’m saying that a kid who may now be the best player in the portal, isn’t the kind of guard who is going to come here, when there are schools where he’d be a clear #1 PG. We need guys who are ok coming off the bench. Hawkins is working on his handle, he will be fine as a ball handler.
 
I’m not saying we are set at guard. I’m saying that a kid who may now be the best player in the portal, isn’t the kind of guard who is going to come here, when there are schools where he’d be a clear #1 PG. We need guys who are ok coming off the bench. Hawkins is working on his handle, he will be fine as a ball handler.
We need a starting guard from the portal.
 
We need a starting guard from the portal.
We "need" a guard who will start over Hawkins? I mean, if such a person exists and is willing to commit, I'd be thrilled, but I don't agree that we need it. We do need more at the guard position, but finding someone to start over Hawkins seems like gravy, not a necessity.
 
We need a starting guard from the portal.
We "need" a guard who will start over Hawkins? I mean, if such a person exists and is willing to commit, I'd be thrilled, but I don't agree that we need it. We do need more at the guard position, but finding someone to start over Hawkins seems like gravy, not a necessity.
another starting G means we're either committing to a small ball lineup (e.g. hunter / newton / hawk / aj / sanogo) or hawkins is not starting...

if it's the former then yeah we'd need an elite transfer G (e.g. hunter or shannon) because starting a guy like rudi williams is not worth giving up all that size/defense/rebounding.
 
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We need a starting guard from the portal.
Nope. Jackson isn’t the starting 4. He’s the 3. Hawkins the 2. Newton the 1. If Dan Hurley doesn’t want Johnson as the 4 then we need a 4. But what we need most is a backup 1 and a backup 2/3. The 2/3 will get lots of minutes. The backup 1 less so, but still 10+. If we treat AJ as the backup 1, then we need two guys in that wing category, or even one that’s a pure 2 like Ramey.

That’s actually what I expect right now. AJax getting the backup PG minutes so we target a SG and a bigger wing. Probably still look for a pure bench developmental PG too.
 
Nope. Jackson isn’t the starting 4. He’s the 3. Hawkins the 2. Newton the 1. If Dan Hurley doesn’t want Johnson as the 4 then we need a 4. But what we need most is a backup 1 and a backup 2/3. The 2/3 will get lots of minutes. The backup 1 less so, but still 10+. If we treat AJ as the backup 1, then we need two guys in that wing category, or even one that’s a pure 2 like Ramey.

That’s actually what I expect right now. AJax getting the backup PG minutes so we target a SG and a bigger wing. Probably still look for a pure bench developmental PG too.

We don't know what we need because we don't know Hurley's plan. If he believes AK and SJ are ready to start at the 4, that changes a lot. 4 out doesn't necessarily mean 4 guards/wings. It means 4 guys who can shoot. In this case, we probably want a combo and a bigger 2/3. And they very likely will be the 6th and 7th men.

I am skeptical that we start with Dre at the 4. But yeah, in that case, we want to bring in a combo guard to start. And with Newton's size, we have the flexibility to go after a small combo.
 
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Nope. Jackson isn’t the starting 4. He’s the 3. Hawkins the 2. Newton the 1. If Dan Hurley doesn’t want Johnson as the 4 then we need a 4. But what we need most is a backup 1 and a backup 2/3. The 2/3 will get lots of minutes. The backup 1 less so, but still 10+. If we treat AJ as the backup 1, then we need two guys in that wing category, or even one that’s a pure 2 like Ramey.

That’s actually what I expect right now. AJax getting the backup PG minutes so we target a SG and a bigger wing. Probably still look for a pure bench developmental PG too.
We have 8 players right now and every single player we're reaching out to is a guard. I understand you may want Jackson to play the 3 and Hawkins to play the 2 but there is nothing to suggest we're targeting a wing to start at the 4 with them. Yet we keep reaching out to guards who would want to start if they come here
 
We "need" a guard who will start over Hawkins? I mean, if such a person exists and is willing to commit, I'd be thrilled, but I don't agree that we need it. We do need more at the guard position, but finding someone to start over Hawkins seems like gravy, not a necessity.
We need three guards to start...Newton, TBD, Hawkins.
 
We need three guards to start...Newton, TBD, Hawkins.

What does it mean to say we need to be starting 3 guards. We're going to be an incomplete team if we somehow end up only starting the typical 2, no matter how that comes about?
 
What does it mean to say we need to be starting 3 guards. We're going to be an incomplete team if we somehow end up only starting the typical 2, no matter how that comes about?
I don't understand your question.
 
I don't understand your question.
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I don't understand your question.

If you say we need 3 starting guards, it means that there's a problem if we end up starting 2, right? I can imagine different ways we could get to the beginning of the season with 2 starting guards that I would not consider a problem or flawed, so I'm just trying to understand why it will be such an issue if we don't start 3.
 
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We need three guards to start...Newton, TBD, Hawkins.
Jackson is a guard. Forget for the moment whether you think he can play the 4. His future as a pro is as a point guard. Hurley has said so. That’s what he’s going to want to showcase in what is probably his last season. He is working on the things that will allow that, just as Martin did last summer. I kept saying he’d be our starting SG and nobody believed me. Jackson and Newton will be big versions of Bazz and Boat. Hawkins the wing. The missing starter isn’t going to be a guard. It will be Johnson or good luck keeping him. Hopefully Hurley learned that lesson. Two big passing guards feeding Sanogo and a lob dunk machine like Johnson who can also shoot. Very hard to stop that.

Yes we are reaching out to guards and big wings because we have no depth at those spots. But I don’t think any additional transfers will start barring injury. We will see who turns out being right.
 
Jackson is a guard. Forget for the moment whether you think he can play the 4. His future as a pro is as a point guard. Hurley has said so. That’s what he’s going to want to showcase in what is probably his last season. He is working on the things that will allow that, just as Martin did last summer. I kept saying he’d be our starting SG and nobody believed me. Jackson and Newton will be big versions of Bazz and Boat. Hawkins the wing. The missing starter isn’t going to be a guard. It will be Johnson or good luck keeping him. Hopefully Hurley learned that lesson. Two big passing guards feeding Sanogo and a lob dunk machine like Johnson who can also shoot. Very hard to stop that.

Yes we are reaching out to guards and big wings because we have no depth at those spots. But I don’t think any additional transfers will start barring injury. We will see who turns out being right.
Jackson at shooting guard, okaaaaay.

He's a 3/4 in college. If Hurley is still trying to fit square pegs in round holes we'll have issues again.

Who are the big wings we're reaching out to? We're about to get a shooting guard.
 
FWIW a four-G lineup prob means springs gets squeezed out of the frontcourt rotation again. sorry huskyhawk, avert your eyes.

Newton 30- Castle 10
Castle 15- Alleyne 20- Hawkins 5
Hawkins 20- Jackson 10- Karaban 10
Jackson 20- Samson 15- Karaban 5
Sanogo 30- Samson 5- Clingan 5

30- Newton, Jackson, Sanogo
25- Castle, Hawkins
20- Alleyne, Samson
15- Karaban
5- Clingan
 
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If you say we need 3 starting guards, it means that there's a problem if we end up starting 2, right? I can imagine different ways we could get to the beginning of the season with 2 starting guards that I would not consider a problem or flawed, so I'm just trying to understand why it will be such an issue if we don't start 3.

Forget starting. We need the flexibility to be able to put a quick, creative 3-guard lineup out there or to put out a bigger 2-guard lineup.

Karaban/Jackson/Samson/Springs make a diverse group that can cover the 4, Sanogo/Clingan/Samson/Springs can cover the 5. If Hawkins/Jackson/Karaban can all play the 3, then we are in good shape there. Looking at the guards, if Hawkins can improve his ball handling then he can slide over to the 2 as needed or be the 3rd guard in 3-guard lineups, and Newton/Castle/Alleyne would be sufficient. If not, then one more guard would help.

I think Hawkins will be fine so I think we're in good shape.
 
Pretty excited for next season, lot of people bummed to lose floyd, akok, etc. but with a starting lineup of

PG: Posh Alexander
SG: Emoni Bates
SF: Stephon Castle
PF: Andre Jackson
C: Adama Sanogo

with Clingan, Karaban, Hawkins, Newton as bench players its pretty hard not to be optomistic about this team
Posh Alexander?????
 
Jackson at shooting guard, okaaaaay.

He's a 3/4 in college. If Hurley is still trying to fit square pegs in round holes we'll have issues again.

Who are the big wings we're reaching out to? We're about to get a shooting guard.

It's wild to me how many of you can't get over a guy's height. Did you watch Jackson last year? Down the stretch he was playing a ton of point guard, even with RJ on the court. He's a guard.
 
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FWIW a four-G lineup prob means springs gets squeezed out of the frontcourt rotation again. sorry huskyhawk, avert your eyes.

Newton 30- Castle 10
Castle 15- Alleyne 20- Hawkins 5
Hawkins 20- Jackson 10- Karaban 10
Jackson 20- Samson 15- Karaban 5
Sanogo 30- Samson 5- Clingan 5

30- Newton, Jackson, Sanogo
25- Castle, Hawkins
20- Alleyne, Samson
15- Karaban
5- Clingan

Need to find more than 5 for Clingan.
 
Jackson at shooting guard, okaaaaay.

He's a 3/4 in college. If Hurley is still trying to fit square pegs in round holes we'll have issues again.

Who are the big wings we're reaching out to? We're about to get a shooting guard.
No, dual point guards. Hawkins at 2/3. Hurley's pitch is getting guys ready to go pro. Well there is only one way to do that with Andre, play him as a PG. Meanwhile, Sanogo will shoot 3's this year and more face up midrange shots too. I think Andre is a square peg round hole at every position except PG. You can disagree, I'm pretty confident they will play much like Bazz/Boat with Newton and Andre shifting on/off the ball.

As for big wings, Shannon, Dennis, Reeves.
 
FWIW a four-G lineup prob means springs gets squeezed out of the frontcourt rotation again. sorry huskyhawk, avert your eyes.

Newton 30- Castle 10
Castle 15- Alleyne 20- Hawkins 5
Hawkins 20- Jackson 10- Karaban 10
Jackson 20- Samson 15- Karaban 5
Sanogo 30- Samson 5- Clingan 5

30- Newton, Jackson, Sanogo
25- Castle, Hawkins
20- Alleyne, Samson
15- Karaban
5- Clingan
If Clingan isn’t getting 35 minutes a game we have a culture problem
 
If Clingan isn’t getting 35 minutes a game we have a culture problem
I see Clingan playing a bit less around 18 to 20 a game. He’ll need to catch up on the college cardio and strength level so it’ll be an adjustment.
 
I think Clingan’s ability to avoid fouls will be the biggest issue regarding his PT. If he’s smart and fast enough to avoid fouls, he’ll see more minutes. May take some time for him to catch up to the new speed but he’ll get there.
 
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No, dual point guards. Hawkins at 2/3. Hurley's pitch is getting guys ready to go pro. Well there is only one way to do that with Andre, play him as a PG. Meanwhile, Sanogo will shoot 3's this year and more face up midrange shots too. I think Andre is a square peg round hole at every position except PG. You can disagree, I'm pretty confident they will play much like Bazz/Boat with Newton and Andre shifting on/off the ball.

As for big wings, Shannon, Dennis, Reeves.
Sanogo's going to be a 3 point shooter next season? I won't hold my breath.
 
No, dual point guards. Hawkins at 2/3. Hurley's pitch is getting guys ready to go pro. Well there is only one way to do that with Andre, play him as a PG. Meanwhile, Sanogo will shoot 3's this year and more face up midrange shots too. I think Andre is a square peg round hole at every position except PG. You can disagree, I'm pretty confident they will play much like Bazz/Boat with Newton and Andre shifting on/off the ball.

As for big wings, Shannon, Dennis, Reeves.
The whole "where will Andre play" discussion feels like 90% semantics at this point. Whether he's officially the 1, 2, 3, or 4, he's going to handle a pretty decent chunk of point duties. That could be with Samson/Karaban at the 4 or it could be with 3 guards on the floor along with Andre in a small ball lineup (my guess is we'll see a lot of both). People are getting too hung up on a) his height, and b) the word "guard".
 
The whole "where will Andre play" discussion feels like 90% semantics at this point. Whether he's officially the 1, 2, 3, or 4, he's going to handle a pretty decent chunk of point duties. That could be with Samson/Karaban at the 4 or it could be with 3 guards on the floor along with Andre in a small ball lineup (my guess is we'll see a lot of both). People are getting too hung up on a) his height, and b) the word "guard".
I agree. I think he plays the same position he did this year with improved scoring.
 
Sanogo's going to be a 3 point shooter next season? I won't hold my breath.
Yes. He will take them. He has to. This is almost certainly our last season with Adama. He doesn't have to be great at it, or take any volume, but if he shows he has a good stroke and can hit some, NBA teams will know he can improve at it. He'll put the ball on the floor from further out as well. He's done that a few times pretty effectively.

I have criticized Hurley, but I think he will absolutely prioritize his players' future. He did it with Martin, making him a guard, letting him bring the ball up and giving him a green light from 3. So yes, Andre will be a guard on the offensive end, will shoot more 3's and attack the rim off the dribble. Hawk needs to get stronger, show he can handle the ball and play faster and score at the rim.
 
UConn has 5 scholarships open. Last year the the ball handlers were Cole and Gaffney and they're both gone. Anyone just assuming Hawkins and Jackson are going to be great ball handlers magically is a moron. Hopefully they are, but assuming they will be and a guy who didn't scare anyone in a weaker conference last year are all the team needs for guard depth is setting themselves up for another NIT season. This team NEEDS another point guard. I hope Newton is great but I'm not ready to put all my eggs in his basket when there are still 5 scholarships to fill.
 
this is sarcasm, right?
Yes. I would be surprised if he gets significant minutes.

Ppl seem to think it’s a good strategy to play freshman who are not ready to contribute over more established players who are equipped to help win the games in the current season. I’m not in that camp. Unless he’s way more ready than we realize, I expect him to get development minutes only.
 
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