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Plebe said:
Marquette as a program is light years ahead of Pitt. One is a multi-consecutive year NCAA tournament team, the other is in the lower 200s of the RPI. This is a self-demotion, plain and simple.

Let's also not forget how terribly overrated the ACC is. They were even worse than the SEC this year.
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Yes, Marquette is light years ahead of Pitt and that is sort of my point, she's expected to help Pitt which is a sad commentary. The ACC was down but man, to say it was worse than the SEC? Ouch, also I disagree as the metrics of WN and Massey say the ACC is better. The eye test does as well as I saw 4 tiers in the SEC:
1st. SC
2nd MSU/Texas A&M, Kentucky
3rd LSU, Arkansas, Tenn
4th everyone else (I guess a 5th of Ole Miss who was truly terrible)

While the ACC had
1st Louisville, NC State (behind SC but ahead of MSU-TAM)
2nd FSU, Duke, BC, VT, GT (on par with MSU-TAM and more of them)
3rd Syracuse, NC, Miami (with a healthy Mompremier) (on par with Tier 3)
4th is NC, Virginia, ND and even WF and well ahead of the 4th tier of the SEC.
What am I missing that is prompting you to think the ACC is worse?
 
I'm biased, but I think that your SEC tiers are a little off. Arkansas was 2-1 against TAMU and KY, and 2-0 against LSU/TN. I think the Hogs belong on your 2-line there. Alternatively, I think you could say 1) SC, 2) MSU, 3) TAMU/Ark/KY, 4) LSU/TN, maybe UGA, 5) the rest

That's kind of how I saw it, anyway. Comparing it to the ACC, I just think there's a bigger gap between tier 2 and tier 3 than there is within the SEC.
 
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DefenseBB said:
Yes, Marquette is light years ahead of Pitt and that is sort of my point, she's expected to help Pitt which is a sad commentary. The ACC was down but man, to say it was worse than the SEC? Ouch, also I disagree as the metrics of WN and Massey say the ACC is better. The eye test does as well as I saw 4 tiers in the SEC:
1st. SC
2nd MSU/Texas A&M, Kentucky
3rd LSU, Arkansas, Tenn
4th everyone else (I guess a 5th of Ole Miss who was truly terrible)

While the ACC had
1st Louisville, NC State (behind SC but ahead of MSU-TAM)
2nd FSU, Duke, BC, VT, GT (on par with MSU-TAM and more of them)
3rd Syracuse, NC, Miami (with a healthy Mompremier) (on par with Tier 3)
4th is NC, Virginia, ND and even WF and well ahead of the 4th tier of the SEC.
What am I missing that is prompting you to think the ACC is worse?
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Boston College and Georgia Tech were bubble teams, and Charlie Creme did not have either in his field. Not sure those teams are “on par with top-20 teams in Mississippi State and Texas A&M?
 
Plebe said:
Marquette as a program is light years ahead of Pitt. One is a multi-consecutive year NCAA tournament team, the other is in the lower 200s of the RPI. This is a self-demotion, plain and simple.

Let's also not forget how terribly overrated the ACC is. They were even worse than the SEC this year.
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Are international players not currently residing in the U.S. even going to be allowed into the country in a few months? Obviously, things are changing on a daily basis as it pertains to travel restrictions; but, it's a risk right now, IMO, signing international players.
 
southie said:
Are international players not currently residing in the U.S. even going to be allowed into the country in a few months? Obviously, things are changing on a daily basis as it pertains to travel restrictions; but, it's a risk right now, IMO, signing international players.
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As opposed to NOT signing a player that could help you when you have an open roster spot? How is this a risk? Does Kelli have 8 other players that will sign with Tenn and with the skills to compete against SC and MSU this season? You lost me on the risk factor as I don't see the down side.
 
DefenseBB said:
As opposed to NOT signing a player that could help you when you have an open roster spot? How is this a risk? Does Kelli have 8 other players that will sign with Tenn and with the skills to compete against SC and MSU this season? You lost me on the risk factor as I don't see the down side.
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If new international signee can not enter the U.S. come Fall semester, the signing didn't help your roster one bit. That's the risk.

And, it kept you from possibly gaining a domestic transfer since that spot was allotted to international signee for 3 or 4 months while other schools pursued transfers who won't ever be at risk due to international travel restrictions. That's the opportunity cost.
 
What about Makurat ? Shes overseas as well , would she not be allowed back ? WTH
 
southie said:
If new international signee can not enter the U.S. come Fall semester, the signing didn't help your roster one bit. That's the risk.

And, it kept you from possibly gaining a domestic transfer since that spot was allotted to international signee for 3 or 4 months while other schools pursued transfers who won't ever be at risk due to international travel restrictions. That's the opportunity cost.
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If international travel is locked down to such an extent that international students aren't able to get visas, I doubt there will be live college basketball games played, because the risk of 7,000 people jammed in an arena is at least as bad as 19-year-olds who are heavily screened at airport terminals and who could voluntarily quarantine for 14 days.
 
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I wasn't commenting only about Tennessee's newest signee. Just about every program has an international player (Texas has a rising sophomore Aussie who is currently back in her country).

So many unknowns right now. The more international players on a roster, they greater the risk, IMO. And, some countries (like Spain) where the COVID-19 numbers have been so high, could probably face more stringent restrictions for its citizens being able to enter the U.S..
 
stwainfan said:
Adding her will help roster back at 12.
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Exactly and you still have 3 more spots open for this year. It's a "no risk" situation. In looking at the current transfer portal, I do not see anyone who really could help Tennessee this year. We have our eyes potentially on Lucy but Tenn has enough height so she's not really what you need. Guards, Wings and shooters are in short supply at Tennessee. Sorry Southie, your argument is still not swaying my perspective...:rolleyes:
 
DefenseBB said:
Exactly and you still have 3 more spots open for this year. It's a "no risk" situation. In looking at the current transfer portal, I do not see anyone who really could help Tennessee this year. We have our eyes potentially on Lucy but Tenn has enough height so she's not really what you need. Guards, Wings and shooters are in short supply at Tennessee. Sorry Southie, your argument is still not swaying my perspective...:rolleyes:
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Yes I agree.
 
DefenseBB said:
Yes, Marquette is light years ahead of Pitt and that is sort of my point, she's expected to help Pitt which is a sad commentary. The ACC was down but man, to say it was worse than the SEC? Ouch, also I disagree as the metrics of WN and Massey say the ACC is better. The eye test does as well as I saw 4 tiers in the SEC:
1st. SC
2nd MSU/Texas A&M, Kentucky
3rd LSU, Arkansas, Tenn
4th everyone else (I guess a 5th of Ole Miss who was truly terrible)

While the ACC had
1st Louisville, NC State (behind SC but ahead of MSU-TAM)
2nd FSU, Duke, BC, VT, GT (on par with MSU-TAM and more of them)
3rd Syracuse, NC, Miami (with a healthy Mompremier) (on par with Tier 3)
4th is NC, Virginia, ND and even WF and well ahead of the 4th tier of the SEC.
What am I missing that is prompting you to think the ACC is worse?
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BC, Duke, VT, and GT were not comparable to Miss St and probably not TAMU or UK, imo.
 
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DefenseBB said:
Yes, Marquette is light years ahead of Pitt and that is sort of my point, she's expected to help Pitt which is a sad commentary. The ACC was down but man, to say it was worse than the SEC? Ouch, also I disagree as the metrics of WN and Massey say the ACC is better. The eye test does as well as I saw 4 tiers in the SEC:
1st. SC
2nd MSU/Texas A&M, Kentucky
3rd LSU, Arkansas, Tenn
4th everyone else (I guess a 5th of Ole Miss who was truly terrible)

While the ACC had
1st Louisville, NC State (behind SC but ahead of MSU-TAM)
2nd FSU, Duke, BC, VT, GT (on par with MSU-TAM and more of them)
3rd Syracuse, NC, Miami (with a healthy Mompremier) (on par with Tier 3)
4th is NC, Virginia, ND and even WF and well ahead of the 4th tier of the SEC.
What am I missing that is prompting you to think the ACC is worse?
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Mississippi State was 6-1 last year against Tennessee, Kentucky, A&M, Arkansas, and LSU. We hold tier 2 all alone, dude. And 13-3 overall.

And it's already been said Arkansas was 4-1 against those same teams. LSU was also strong against the top SEC teams. We could argue those tiers of yours. :D
 
DefenseBB said:
Exactly and you still have 3 more spots open for this year. It's a "no risk" situation. In looking at the current transfer portal, I do not see anyone who really could help Tennessee this year. We have our eyes potentially on Lucy but Tenn has enough height so she's not really what you need. Guards, Wings and shooters are in short supply at Tennessee. Sorry Southie, your argument is still not swaying my perspective...:rolleyes:
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No skin off my nose.

We'll know soon if the immediate-eligibility one-time transfer proposal is approved and goes into effect immediately. If it does, more reason to keep some scholarships open versus signing international prospects (unless they are considered elite).
 
southie said:
No skin off my nose.

We'll know soon if the immediate-eligibility one-time transfer proposal is approved and goes into effect immediately. If it does, more reason to keep some scholarships open versus signing international prospects (unless they are considered elite).
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You raise an interesting question though-Does the transfer portal have a "closing date" for the upcoming season? So, if the measure is passed on May 20th, will there be a deadline that a student athlete for the upcoming 2020-21 school year must be in the portal by to be considered? As schools start in late August or early September, does the committee want time to consider say an Aug1 deadline?
 
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DefenseBB said:
You raise an interesting question though-Does the transfer portal have a "closing date" for the upcoming season? So, if the measure is passed on May 20th, will there be a deadline that a student athlete for the upcoming 2020-21 school year must be in the portal by to be considered? As schools start in late August or early September, does the committee want time to consider say an Aug1 deadline?
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I doubt there would be any "closing date". If some kind of deadline is added as a condition for transferring prior to the upcoming season, I'm sure there would be plenty of time for those changes to be communicated. Transfers (even prior to the creation of portal) only had to abide by their new institution's class enrollment deadline for said semester / quarter.

Currently, a S-A can submit their name into the transfer portal, take official visits, but still withdraw their name from the transfer portal and remain at their current school (assuming head coach is in agreement). Time-table seems very lax. Destiny Pitts submitted her name into the transfer portal in mid-January, and took one official visit; yet 3 months later has not made any kind of official decision about her future (that we know of).
 
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D'Asia Gregg to Virginia Tech.

She started at Georgia Tech, played this past season at Gulf Coast State College, recently decommitted from Florida State.

Huge get for Kenny Brooks.

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JUCO PF D’Asia Gregg Commits to Virginia Tech

JUCO PF D'Asia Gregg committed to Virginia Tech Women's Basketball after previously committing to Florida State prior to the COVID-19 pandemic.
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