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Charliebball said:
OK I'll rehash it one more time........there's sold and there's sold.......I find it very hard to believe that there were only four players out of the top 100 that were UConn good....the consequence of such selectivity is that they may only field eight players next season and will have to resort to juco, graduate transfers or international players to supplement the team .......players that they didn't choose to recruit 99% of the time.........instead, how about making another two or three offers and get a player you know meets at least most of what you're looking for.......that's not Louisville, not even close....
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Last time you said 11 offers were the minimum.
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Charliebball said:
OK I'll rehash it one more time........there's sold and there's sold.......I find it very hard to believe that there were only four players out of the top 100 that were UConn good....the consequence of such selectivity is that they may only field eight players next season and will have to resort to juco, graduate transfers or international players to supplement the team .......players that they didn't choose to recruit 99% of the time.........instead, how about making another two or three offers and get a player you know meets at least most of what you're looking for.......that's not Louisville, not even close....
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Louisville has nothing to do with this.

I hope you were not this way in finding a spouse. Throw out a bunch of offers, and just settle for whoever happened to accept first.

Charliebball said:
the consequence of such selectivity is that they may only field eight players next season .
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Not sure why you think that is worse than having players you don't really want on your team?? I'll give you it's not ideal. But ideal doesn't happen all that often.

Charliebball said:
will have to resort to juco, graduate transfers or international players to supplement the team .......players that they didn't choose to recruit 99% of the time...
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Well International players will most likely be players they are recruiting for the 1st time. And Juco and Grad Transfers are different players than what they might have looked at 2, 3 or 4 years prior.
AND as was demonstrated this past year, they are still NOT going to take anyone they don't really want.


Here's another little tidbit for you and your "we only got 1 recruit" whiny negativity. (that's getting old, real old)

1999-2000 season - 1 Recruit class (KJ) - result? - 36-1 NC
2001-2002 season - 1 Recruit class (AValley) - result? - 39-0 NC
2009-2010 season - 1 Recruit class (Faris) - result? - 39-0 NC
2013-2014 season - 1 Recruit class (Chong) - result? - 40-0 NC

Stick that in your pipe.
 
meyers7 said:
Louisville has nothing to do with this.

I hope you were not this way in finding a spouse. Throw out a bunch of offers, and just settle for whoever happened to accept first.


Not sure why you think that is worse than having players you don't really want on your team?? I'll give you it's not ideal. But ideal doesn't happen all that often.


Well International players will most likely be players they are recruiting for the 1st time. And Juco and Grad Transfers are different players than what they might have looked at 2, 3 or 4 years prior.
AND as was demonstrated this past year, they are still NOT going to take anyone they don't really want.


Here's another little tidbit for you and your "we only got 1 recruit" whiny negativity. (that's getting old, real old)

1999-2000 season - 1 Recruit class (KJ) - result? - 36-1 NC
2001-2002 season - 1 Recruit class (AValley) - result? - 39-0 NC
2009-2010 season - 1 Recruit class (Faris) - result? - 39-0 NC
2013-2014 season - 1 Recruit class (Chong) - result? - 40-0 NC

Stick that in your pipe.
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I feel no need to defend my position.......................I think it's pretty clear to anyone with an open mind that 2019 recruiting was a mess.................I am hopeful that UConn makes more then four offers for 2020, otherwise they may be asking you to suit up............
 
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Charliebball said:
I feel no need to defend my position.......
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You certainly have in the past. Maybe the change of heart is because you no longer can???? Hmmm??

Charliebball said:
.I think it's pretty clear to anyone with an open mind that 2019 recruiting was a mess..
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How so? Because UCONN didn't get everyone they went after? Then most teams recruiting is a mess most years. You really want to see a mess try 2003.

Was Texas and Baylor's recruiting a mess too?? How about USF? They only brought in 1 player.

[QUOTE="Charliebball, post: 3017036, member: 6831".I am hopeful that UConn makes more then four offers for 2020, otherwise they may be asking you to suit up..[/QUOTE]
And why do you think they wouldn't?? It's like you just came into this recruiting world the last couple of years and somehow now you're an expert on it. Have you been staying at a Holiday Inn Express lately??
 
Charliebball said:
OK I'll rehash it one more time........there's sold and there's sold.......I find it very hard to believe that there were only four players out of the top 100 that were UConn good....the consequence of such selectivity is that they may only field eight players next season and will have to resort to juco, graduate transfers or international players to supplement the team .......players that they didn't choose to recruit 99% of the time.........instead, how about making another two or three offers and get a player you know meets at least most of what you're looking for.......that's not Louisville, not even close....
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"Rehash it one more time." Promise?:rolleyes:
 
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meyers7 said:
You certainly have in the past. Maybe the change of heart is because you no longer can???? Hmmm??
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the insults, the anger...........................really doesn't suite you..........................the truth is as clear as day...........................you apparently just don't have the capacity to see it........................that's OK.................................life goes on...................[/QUOTE]
 
meyers7 said:
Was Texas and Baylor's recruiting a mess too?? How about USF? They only brought in 1 player.
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Topic aside, those teams are all stacked with underclassmen. Texas and Baylor just brought in five-player classes, South Florida a six-player class.

I don't know about the number of targets, but there's little doubt UConn really needs to bring in 7-8 over the next couple years.
 
Sluconn Husky said:
Topic aside, those teams are all stacked with underclassmen. Texas and Baylor just brought in five-player classes, South Florida a six-player class.

I don't know about the number of targets, but there's little doubt UConn really needs to bring in 7-8 over the next couple years.
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exactly right Sluconn.................................both those teams have more good players then they know what to do with.....................BTW how many offers do you think UConn will have to make to yield 7-8 recruits?
 
Charliebball said:
exactly right Sluconn........both those teams have more good players then they know what to do with......BTW how many offers do you think UConn will have to make to yield 7-8 recruits?
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Well, UConn casts a semi-large net when dealing with younger players (8th & 9th grade) and then reduces that net over the next couple of years. I really don't know how many offers they put out. We know of 3 verified offers for 2020 and interest in somewhere between 9-12 North American players, plus the sudden surge in internationals targets for 2020 and beyond.
 
meyers7 said:
Louisville has nothing to do with this.

I hope you were not this way in finding a spouse. Throw out a bunch of offers, and just settle for whoever happened to accept first.


Not sure why you think that is worse than having players you don't really want on your team?? I'll give you it's not ideal. But ideal doesn't happen all that often.


Well International players will most likely be players they are recruiting for the 1st time. And Juco and Grad Transfers are different players than what they might have looked at 2, 3 or 4 years prior.
AND as was demonstrated this past year, they are still NOT going to take anyone they don't really want.


Here's another little tidbit for you and your "we only got 1 recruit" whiny negativity. (that's getting old, real old)

1999-2000 season - 1 Recruit class (KJ) - result? - 36-1 NC
2001-2002 season - 1 Recruit class (AValley) - result? - 39-0 NC
2009-2010 season - 1 Recruit class (Faris) - result? - 39-0 NC
2013-2014 season - 1 Recruit class (Chong) - result? - 40-0 NC

Stick that in your pipe.
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That's part of the equation - but what did those teams have in terms of returning productivity ?
 
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Charliebball said:
the consequence of such selectivity is that they may only field eight players next season
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I for one would like to see Uconn field just eight players next season just to see how most of the fans here react and how the coaching staff handles it.
 
pvdoggy said:
I for one would like to see Uconn field just eight players next season just to see how most of the fans here react and how the coaching staff handles it.
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the way Geno uses his bench, having eight players doesn't sound terrible, the problem is between fouls and injuries eight can become six or five very quickly..............
 
Sluconn Husky said:
Well, UConn casts a semi-large net when dealing with younger players (8th & 9th grade) and then reduces that net over the next couple of years. I really don't know how many offers they put out. We know of 3 verified offers for 2020 and interest in somewhere between 9-12 North American players, plus the sudden surge in internationals targets for 2020 and beyond.
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I'd be thrilled if UConn got one or two of Bueckers, Van Lith or Gusters who are all in extremely high demand......................I wonder what's the backup plan if they all choose to go elsewhere?
 
meyers7 said:
Louisville has nothing to do with this.

I hope you were not this way in finding a spouse. Throw out a bunch of offers, and just settle for whoever happened to accept first.


Not sure why you think that is worse than having players you don't really want on your team?? I'll give you it's not ideal. But ideal doesn't happen all that often.


Well International players will most likely be players they are recruiting for the 1st time. And Juco and Grad Transfers are different players than what they might have looked at 2, 3 or 4 years prior.
AND as was demonstrated this past year, they are still NOT going to take anyone they don't really want.


Here's another little tidbit for you and your "we only got 1 recruit" whiny negativity. (that's getting old, real old)

1999-2000 season - 1 Recruit class (KJ) - result? - 36-1 NC
2001-2002 season - 1 Recruit class (AValley) - result? - 39-0 NC
2009-2010 season - 1 Recruit class (Faris) - result? - 39-0 NC
2013-2014 season - 1 Recruit class (Chong) - result? - 40-0 NC

Stick that in your pipe.
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How many proven players did those teams have compared to what UConn will have next season? You can say what you want but what Charlie is saying make sense. How many players were on those teams the following year when the one recruit was a freshman? Do you really think UConn has a good chance to win it all next season with the returning eight players and Griffin as the only new recruit?
 
meyers7 said:
Louisville has nothing to do with this.

I hope you were not this way in finding a spouse. Throw out a bunch of offers, and just settle for whoever happened to accept first.


Not sure why you think that is worse than having players you don't really want on your team?? I'll give you it's not ideal. But ideal doesn't happen all that often.


Well International players will most likely be players they are recruiting for the 1st time. And Juco and Grad Transfers are different players than what they might have looked at 2, 3 or 4 years prior.
AND as was demonstrated this past year, they are still NOT going to take anyone they don't really want.


Here's another little tidbit for you and your "we only got 1 recruit" whiny negativity. (that's getting old, real old)

1999-2000 season - 1 Recruit class (KJ) - result? - 36-1 NC
2001-2002 season - 1 Recruit class (AValley) - result? - 39-0 NC
2009-2010 season - 1 Recruit class (Faris) - result? - 39-0 NC
2013-2014 season - 1 Recruit class (Chong) - result? - 40-0 NC

Stick that in your pipe.
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Meyers, while I am not in the "sky is falling" group, you are cherry picking your stats. We essentially have one strong Junior, one strong Soph, and to date, one strong Frosh (hopefully ONO will excel in future), and one in the upcoming class. That is 4 consecutive years with light numbers of recruits.
 
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Charliebball said:
the insults, the anger.......really doesn't suite you......the truth is as clear as day.......you apparently just don't have the capacity to see it....that's OK........life goes on....
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It gets old. You apparently don't have the capacity to understand UCONN.
 
donalddoowop said:
How many proven players did those teams have compared to what UConn will have next season? You can say what you want but what Charlie is saying make sense. How many players were on those teams the following year when the one recruit was a freshman? Do you really think UConn has a good chance to win it all next season with the returning eight players and Griffin as the only new recruit?
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Decent chance. They'll most likely be in the mix. You'll have a Sr PG (potential AA), a very strong JR (potential AA), 1 So (eventual AA) who might be able to push the 2nd tier of UCONN greats, and a So with some height. That's a pretty good core. Granted we won't be a favorite. And we won't be deep, unless there is some additions by transfers, Juco, etc.
 
HopJim said:
Meyers, while I am not in the "sky is falling" group, you are cherry picking your stats. We essentially have one strong Junior, one strong Soph, and to date, one strong Frosh (hopefully ONO will excel in future), and one in the upcoming class. That is 4 consecutive years with light numbers of recruits.
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You can call it cherry picking, or just call it truth. And after all those 1 person classes UCONN has always pulled at least a 4/5 person class.

4 years? Maybe 2. And one of them was a very good class.
2019 - 1
2018 - 2
2017 - 4
2016 - 3

3/4/3/4 is almost perfect numbers.
 
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meyers7 said:
How exactly does a one member class (which UCONN has had numerous times before) make it sensible to hand out offers tp players UCONN is not sold on???? Seems pretty stupid to me.
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You make it sound like everything is black and white. Even Geno has said that sometimes he makes a mistake and then is stuck with that player as long as they stay.
 
meyers7 said:
You can call it cherry picking, or just call it truth. And after all those 1 person classes UCONN has always pulled at least a 4/5 person class.

4 years? Maybe 2. And one of them was a very good class.
2019 - 1
2018 - 2
2017 - 4
2016 - 3

3/4/3/4 is almost perfect numbers.
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I think one must consider the dramatic increase in competition for recruits from even just 5-10 years ago. The recruits of today don't have to pick between just UConn, Tennessee, and Stanford, so examples from the '90s and '00s may not be as applicable to today's recruiting environment. We are now competing with ND, South Carolina, Louisville, Baylor, and Oregon, for example. Instead of there being a 1 in 2 or 1 in 3 chance of landing a top recuit, it's more like 1 in 5 or worse odds today. Kids have a lot more options, and maybe if you're a top recruit now you know you can stay closer to home, get a good education, maybe not have to deal with Geno the drill sergeant, and still have a decent chance to win a national championship and go on to a nice pro career.
 
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Charliebball said:
I'd be thrilled if UConn got one or two of Bueckers, Van Lith or Gusters who are all in extremely high demand.......I wonder what's the backup plan if they all choose to go elsewhere?
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We will have to wait and see. I think Geno will be more prepared than many of our fans.
 
MTC said:
You make it sound like everything is black and white. Even Geno has said that sometimes he makes a mistake and then is stuck with that player as long as they stay.
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It's far from black and white. And that's exactly why they shouldn't be handing out offers to players they aren't sold on. Because as you say even the ones they are sold on don't always work. Of course they could make a mistake the other way, but I don't really think you should base your recruiting efforts on hoping to make a mistake.
 
meyers7 said:
You certainly have in the past. Maybe the change of heart is because you no longer can???? Hmmm??


How so? Because UCONN didn't get everyone they went after? Then most teams recruiting is a mess most years. You really want to see a mess try 2003.

Was Texas and Baylor's recruiting a mess too?? How about USF? They only brought in 1 player.

[QUOTE="Charliebball, post: 3017036, member: 6831".I am hopeful that UConn makes more then four offers for 2020, otherwise they may be asking you to suit up..
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And why do you think they wouldn't?? It's like you just came into this recruiting world the last couple of years and somehow now you're an expert on it. Have you been staying at a Holiday Inn Express lately??[/QUOTE]
Why are you getting nasty? Opinions are like balloon knots; everyone has one.
 
It gets old. You apparently don't have the capacity to understand UCONN.[/QUOTE]

not having the capacity to understand that you need a plan B gets old as does a demeaning attitude...............these discussions always get personal with you few as if you are the ultimate arbiter......................I will add this is the end of the discussion on my part as I don't want this thread shut down over bickering......
 
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