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warbler13 said:
In the excellent and well fought game Australia vs Norway, the best player for the Aussies sent the ball high over the bar during the PK tie breaker and pretty much ensured their defeat.
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Yes, much discussion on that on the previous page of this thread.
 
Heh, takes a lot of chutzpah for the Brazilians to be flopping to ground on these French fouls :D
 
General observation of games played so far. Never seen so many kicks go over or wide of the net, from outside the circle.
 
mbr33ct said:
General observation of games played so far. Never seen so many kicks go over or wide of the net, from outside the circle.
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Another observation. Refereeing has been worse than atrocious. Most CR's have been terrible, and the VAR has not worked as it should. The call negating the French goal today was worse than I would expect from a U-11 referee.
 
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France with a well deserved win overcoming the terrible take away goal and Brazil's gamesmanship.

Looking forward to the US vs Spain match.
 
USA took 1-0 lead on a Rapinoe penalty kick (from a Tobin move) but Spain ties it up on a terrible miscue on the backline.

This game is wide open.
 
I'll say it again, can anyone put a shot on goal (where the goalie has to make a save) from outside the circle?
 
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It felt like the ref had a very long leash on Spain's physicality all game...and then she awards a penalty for the slightest touches.

There will be complaining about that pen after the game, especially from the growing hordes rooting for USA's downfall. Of course, USA has been the better team throughout.

I actually was curious to see who we would bring on to try to change the game. But the ref just took all the drama out of the game with the penalty award.
 
Now you can argue if we're truly as good as people say we were.
 
Orangutan said:
You might be talking about the penalty but the Spanish girl that dived when Rapinoe's fingertips grazed her face was far more flagrant.
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I am talking about all the times players ended up on the ground throughout this tournament with little or no real contact happening.
 
Canada / Sweden a war of attrition. Feels like a 0-0 penalty kick game.
 
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Sweden with a nice counter attack goal against the run of play. 1-0 Sweden in 55'

Edit: Canada got a hand ball penalty call (50/50 at best) but was stuffed (Sinclair did not take it ??) on the penalty kick by the Swedish goal kicker (the one who took us out at the Olympics)
 
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eebmg said:
US gets a very dubious (imho) penalty in 77' Up 2-1 with Rapinoe burying it.
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Agree....and you are providing the polite version.

IMO the game was decided by the ref who paved the path to a bad outcome....and that was with the benefit of slow motion replay.

While the score says otherwise, Spain didn't "lose" the game. The incident reminded me of the bad calls that cost the Saints a trip to the Super Bowl in the NFC Championship game last year and Mississippi State the WBC Championship in the ND/MS 2018 Championship.

Its so infortunate to see these things happen...so much hard work unnecessarily deprived.

I'm a huge fan of Women soccer (and basketball!)....but find the outcome disappointing and disillusioning.
 
Eh, Spain didn't really offer very much going forward and were gifted a goal by a massive defensive blunder. They spent most of the game hacking away at the US players with relative impunity.

They didn't "lose" the game but they didn't deserve to win it either. I don't feel so bad for them.
 
Canada ... lots of bad play out there. It was an errant offensive pass inside that led to Sweden's goal. Shots on goal very few and poor. Too bad.
 
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Orangutan said:
Eh, Spain didn't really offer very much going forward and were gifted a goal by a massive defensive blunder. They spent most of the game hacking away at the US players with relative impunity.

They didn't "lose" the game but they didn't deserve to win it either. I don't feel so bad for them.
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The US had the better of the run of play, but Spain had some dangerous moments, including a shot that skated across the face of goal and barely past the far post.

The second penalty was just so dang soft. From the replay it was painfully clear that Lavelle flopped after taking two steps and thinking "Wait! I was touched! I should fall down and maybe get a PK!"
 
Orangutan said:
Eh, Spain didn't really offer very much going forward and were gifted a goal by a massive defensive blunder. They spent most of the game hacking away at the US players with relative impunity.

They didn't "lose" the game but they didn't deserve to win it either. I don't feel so bad for them.
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Nor do I. Had this game had a quality Center Referee - not that any game at the WWC has had one - and Spain would have had at least a few cards. Would have had a few just for persistent infringement on Alex Morgan. An early stern warning might have halted this, but the ref apparently didn't even notice.
 
USWNT survived based on VAR. So either Spain is much better than anyone suspected or the US is not a great as the experts lead us to believe. Incredible mistake from the US goalkeeper and defenders. As somebody tweeted " I don't think I understand VAR, but I know I hated it!!!"
 
warbler13 said:
USWNT survived based on VAR. So either Spain is much better than anyone suspected or the US is not a great as the experts lead us to believe. Incredible mistake from the US goalkeeper and defenders. As somebody tweeted " I don't think I understand VAR, but I know I hated it!!!"
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The Europeans have been slowly but surely building up women’s soccer across the continent. Depending on what happens in the games today, Europe could have 7 of 8 quarterfinal teams, with the US being the lone exception.

I am extremely impressed with the size, skill and athleticism of all the remaining European teams. Title IX legislation is keeping US women’s soccer competitive, promoting the participation of hundreds of thousands of girls and women in HS and college soccer programs.

Hopefully, the US can continue to maintain their position as one of the top teams in the world, but there is no doubt that in the years to come it will be much more challenging for the US to prevail against the top European teams.
 
warbler13 said:
USWNT survived based on VAR.
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One comment for those who don't fully understand VAR. The VAR team reviews certain plays involving goals, possible offside when a goal is scored, PK situations, and possible red cards. It can then recommend that the referee review the play. But only the referee makes the final decision. - as she did in the case of this PK. The VAR team has no authority to overrule the referee or make a decision not approved by the referee. All goals and all calls for a penalty kick are automatically checked by the VAR team, who can then recommend a review or say call is OK, play on.
 
warbler13 said:
USWNT survived based on VAR. So either Spain is much better than anyone suspected or the US is not a great as the experts lead us to believe. Incredible mistake from the US goalkeeper and defenders. As somebody tweeted " I don't think I understand VAR, but I know I hated it!!!"
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Agree, the US goalkeeper does look shaky (to these old blurry eyes) back there when under pressure...and the opponents know this.
 
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