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sledog said:
don't know about the history, but he makes a great point rather than relying on the subjunctive .wtf'.
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You don't seem to be a person qualified to have thoughts let alone share them
 
pnow15 said:
In Ollie's defense
Nolan, Facey, Brimah, Purvis were recruited when no one else wanted to come to UConn.
The talent level on this team is not as good as we thought.
Ollie has to design an offense with guys who can't dribble, pass or shoot at a high level.
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Facey and especially Purvis were sought after recruits, Don't remember Nolan's recruitment. But I disagree with your premise. Other teams are doing more with less. There is something in the chemistry and the coaching that is hurting us.
 
huskymagic said:
. Ollie has recruited one-too many interchangeable zeroes who are one-dimensional.
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I think zeroes are pretty well rounded.

Just to make sure I understand, you think all the players and all the coaches suck? Or all the players and just Ollie?
 
ASweet3781 said:
If the fans overrated the team than what did the head coach do? He called it his most talented and deepest team in his 4 years as coach. He called Rodney Purvis a ferrari.

We don't have enough talent on this roster to finish top 3 in the AAC? Really?
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I believe this very well be his "most talented" team but theres a huge difference between having the "most talented" team and "the best" team.
RP was labeled the Ferrari as a result of his preseason play last year- have you heard him repeat that at all this year? I saw RP during preseason in October 2014 and the kid was unbelievable. He definitely looked different then and when he took the floor for the real deal. The closest he came was the March run he had last year. I was telling all my friends about what I saw during those October afternoons but when the 2014-2015 season started they all looked a me like I was nuts.
I honestly KO doesn't believe what he is seeing on the court right now. BUT hat doesn't excuse him IF he is not coaching them to the best of his ability.
 
boog204 said:
While some of the things you say are valid, are you trying to insinuate that we are running good offense but simply not hitting shots? Because I will wholeheartedly disagree with that sentiment.
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What I am saying that with this team's lack of dribbling and passing skills and its overall weak basketball acumen, Ollie may be running the only offense he can. So, it is necessary to hit a few wide open threes.
 
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Ollie gets one more year if he makes the nit again. Another year after that of nit and he needs to go. Shabazz isn't here to bail him out anymore, and that's a huge problem.
 
Huskyforlife said:
Ollie gets one more year if he makes the nit again. Another year after that of nit and he needs to go. Shabazz isn't here to bail him out anymore, and that's a huge problem.
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There it is folks. You heard it here first! One more year and we need to gather round with the pitchforks.

Thank heavens for Kevin that Shabazz was able to single handedly defeat Tom Izzo, Billy Donovan and John Calipari or we'd have been at his doorstep last year.
 
uconnphil2016 said:
A while ago I wouldn't have entertained this idea, but Ollie's continued lethargy makes me wonder if something to do with his divorce has him bummed out/disinterested in basketball. Not trying to comment on his personal life really or make any judgments about the guy, but you just have to wonder if his mind is on other things than basketball.
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Like maybe depression?
 
What's the alternative? I mean really, all we can do is be cheerleaders right now. We know KO can coach, I don't think this thread, which is also read by recruits is necessary.

None of our criticism will change or affect KO's coaching. This board believes in Mojo just as much as the players and coaches abilities, it's just going to be that type of season for us, this is not a 2004 type season, but it stll can be more of a 2014 type year. KO can still get us there, he's earned the right to have some bad games.
 
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KO owes his position to Brimah's baby hook and one against St. Joe's in the opening game of the 2014 NCAA tourney. If not for that one play saving the season, how many on this board would be praising KO's coaching ability on this board today? As far as concern that recruits might read this board and decide to go elsewhere, recruits' reading is limited to 40 characters at a time these days.
 
UCweCONN said:
KO owes his position to Brimah's baby hook and one against St. Joe's in the opening game of the 2014 NCAA tourney. If not for that one play saving the season, how many on this board would be praising KO's coaching ability on this board today? As far as concern that recruits might read this board and decide to go elsewhere, recruits' reading is limited to 40 characters at a time these days.
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Yeah because the Villanova, Iowa State, Michigan State, Florida and Kentucky games were so easy anyone could've coached the Huskies to W's.:rolleyes:
 
UCweCONN said:
KO owes his position to Brimah's baby hook and one against St. Joe's in the opening game of the 2014 NCAA tourney. If not for that one play saving the season, how many on this board would be praising KO's coaching ability on this board today? As far as concern that recruits might read this board and decide to go elsewhere, recruits' reading is limited to 40 characters at a time these days.
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I'm as annoyed with KO as anyone, but this is a really stupid point. First of all, the baby hook was only necessary because St. Joe's, a relatively poor-shooting team, had a ridiculous game from three and from the line. Secondly, the fact that they could have lost that game doesn't negate the wins over Jay Wright, Fred Hoiberg, Tom Izzo, Billy Donovan, or Calipari.
 
UCweCONN said:
As far as concern that recruits might read this board and decide to go elsewhere, recruits' reading is limited to 40 characters at a time these days.
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And this site has way over 40 characters.

Tired of hearing about AB in that game. Most championships have a close game and that doesn't negate all the skill he showed in all the subsequent games.
 
CallMeBruce said:
I'm as annoyed with KO as anyone, but this is a really stupid point. First of all, the baby hook was only necessary because St. Joe's, a relatively poor-shooting team, had a ridiculous game from three and from the line. Secondly, the fact that they could have lost that game doesn't negate the wins over Jay Wright, Fred Hoiberg, Tom Izzo, Billy Donovan, or Calipari.
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We won because we had Shabazz and those teams didn't.
 
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CallMeBruce said:
I'm as annoyed with KO as anyone, but this is a really stupid point. First of all, the baby hook was only necessary because St. Joe's, a relatively poor-shooting team, had a ridiculous game from three and from the line. Secondly, the fact that they could have lost that game doesn't negate the wins over Jay Wright, Fred Hoiberg, Tom Izzo, Billy Donovan, or Calipari.
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Temple actually shot 38% from the three that year, and 47% from the field. So there were a solid shooting team that performed just around where you expect them to. However you are correct about free throws, they only shot 64% from the stripe.
 
That close loss to Syracuse isn't a quality loss anymore. They suck too. Our coaching staff should coach looking ahead to the AAC Tourney as the only chance to make the big dance. At this point, I don't care about winning or losing regular season games anymore. We need to develop the lineup that will be best in March.
 
Actually, if Ollie made a mistake this season it was just pursuing Gibbs this off season.
Like most of the Boneyard, he drank the All 2nd Team Big East point guard baloney. Gibbs is a very good player but he is also a smoother version of Purvis with less defense.
Adams is a tweener. We needed to find a legit point guard to run the offense. I don't know it any were available as 5th year transfers, but he didn't have to be great, just solid.
Ollie could have found one of them.
 
pnow15 said:
Actually, if Ollie made a mistake this season it was just pursuing Gibbs this off season.
Like most of the Boneyard, he drank the All 2nd Team Big East point guard baloney. Gibbs is a very good player but he is also a smoother version of Purvis with less defense.
Adams is a tweener. We needed to find a legit point guard to run the offense. I don't know it any were available as 5th year transfers, but he didn't have to be great, just solid.
Ollie could have found one of them.
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Ollie got the grad transfers because he swung and missed on all his targets except Adams. He tried to plug holes in his team and it hasn't worked out.
 
The Brimah put back was the result of Bazz missing a bunny - after Bazz dribbled off his leg out of bounds on the previous possession. KO maybe got a big break, but he's second to Bazz, who would have a much much different reputation here if AB didn't tie the game up and give him a second chance. Role player on a national title team and not leading team anywhere after basically makes him Albert Mouring. Think about it - his only two NCAA games after the Butler win would have been the ISU debacle and a 5-20 clunker in a down to the wire loss to Saint Joe's with a couple blown possessions late.

We put a 15-0 run on Nova with Bazz on the bench and then beat Florida with our D )and DD) after the Gators effectively schemed defensively to render Bazz ineffective. The last three games were largely about us holding three very good teams to around 50 points each.

Bazz made up for the early-tourney blemishes quite obviously (and frankly played a really smart game against Florida to not force things) but If you attribute the title to Bazz alone, you weren't paying much attention.
 
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During the title run of 2014, when Ollie had DD, Boat, Bazz, Giffey and Kromah/Brimah.
on the floor at the same time, he had the best five on the floor. Although they might not have been NBA sized prospects, these guys were better than what the other teams could put out there. And Ollie used them perfectly.
 
Gurleyman said:
The Brimah put back was the result of Bazz missing a bunny - after Bazz dribbled off his leg out of bounds on the previous possession. KO maybe got a big break, but he's second to Bazz, who would have a much much different reputation here if AB didn't tie the game up and give him a second chance. Role player on a national title team and not leading team anywhere after basically makes him Albert Mouring. Think about it - his only two NCAA games after the Butler win would have been the ISU debacle and a 5-20 clunker in a down to the wire loss to Saint Joe's with a couple blown possessions late.

We put a 15-0 run on Nova with Bazz on the bench and then beat Florida with our D )and DD) after the Gators effectively schemed defensively to render Bazz ineffective. The last three games were largely about us holding three very good teams to around 50 points each.

Bazz made up for the early-tourney blemishes quite obviously (and frankly played a really smart game against Florida to not force things) but If you attribute the title to Bazz alone, you weren't paying much attention.
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Interesting point that has quite a bit of truth in it. I don't think Bazz should get ALL the credit for the title, but I don't think KO had this incredible "pure" coaching run that took us to the title. I think he did a wonderful job motivating our players to play stifling defense (Boat), and had an offense that enabled our three scorers to have some freedom within the half court. But was there really something "innovative" that he did to "outcoach" his contemporaries? Doubling Payne is not an amazing coaching move, imo. It's common sense. We got out big against Kentucky by playing our game and Calipari being stubborn and sticking with his automatic switching on defense. Once DD went out of that game and Calipari made some adjustments, it was an even game with Kentucky having a few chances to take the lead late. Had we lost that game, what would KOs reputation be then? Squandering a 15 point lead in the national championship game...

I don't know, I always felt like KO got too much credit in the "outcoached" hall of fame coaches idea when really we had two guards who were simply tougher than everyone else and in particular, one guard, Boat who was going to completely eliminate the opposing teams point guard. KO motivated him to become that, but Boat was the one who took it to the next level.

KO can recruit, we know that at this point. He's still evolving as a coach. His substitution patterns, mediocre half court offense, and questionable game management techniques (timeouts) do not put him at the level that many here thought he was. He very well may get there, but he's still very much a work in progress.
 
boog204 said:
Interesting point that has quite a bit of truth in it. I don't think Bazz should get ALL the credit for the title, but I don't think KO had this incredible "pure" coaching run that took us to the title. I think he did a wonderful job motivating our players to play stifling defense (Boat), and had an offense that enabled our three scorers to have some freedom within the half court. But was there really something "innovative" that he did to "outcoach" his contemporaries? Doubling Payne is not an amazing coaching move, imo. It's common sense. We got out big against Kentucky by playing our game and Calipari being stubborn and sticking with his automatic switching on defense. Once DD went out of that game and Calipari made some adjustments, it was an even game with Kentucky having a few chances to take the lead late. Had we lost that game, what would KOs reputation be then? Squandering a 15 point lead in the national championship game... I don't know, I always felt like KO got too much credit in the "outcoached" hall of fame coaches idea when really we had two guards who were simply tougher than everyone else and in particular, one guard, Boat who was going to completely eliminate the opposing teams point guard. KO motivated him to become that, but Boat was the one who took it to the next level. KO can recruit, we know that at this point. He's still evolving as a coach. His substitution patterns, mediocre half court offense, and questionable game management techniques (timeouts) do not put him at the level that many here thought he was. He very well may get there, but he's still very much a work in progress.
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It's definitely a combination of both. We were down 20-10 to Nova when Bazz went to the bench and we were in a world of hurt. When MSU went up 9 in the second half we looked dead to rights, and when Florida went up 16-4, I wasn't sure if we'd score 30 points and if we might be the victim of the biggest blowout in FF history. All three times, we flipped the switch. You can say MSU was largely Bazz taking over, he was on the bench when we flipped the switch against Nova and it was mostly other guys against Florida.

Against Florida, we seized the lead and stayed with the small lineup when Young was killing us because they couldn't stop us on the other end and we were willing to shrink the clock and let Young get his to keep their guards from heating up. When the Gators went zone, we picked it apart with three lobs that was kind of their final death knell. Same when Kentucky threw a late zone at us - lob to DD for a critical bucket. We were prepared for those adjustments.

If we lost a close game to Kentucky, I don't think KO's reputation takes a big hit since he got that far beating two favorites in MSU and Florida. But it was never a one-possession game in the last five minutes, so it wasn't like it came down to one play. We always had a margin for error and were a DD cavernously wide open three from going up nine with 1:20 left when maybe we win by 13 or 15 after taking on some foul shots.
 
Gurleyman said:
The Brimah put back was the result of Bazz missing a bunny - after Bazz dribbled off his leg out of bounds on the previous possession. KO maybe got a big break, but he's second to Bazz, who would have a much much different reputation here if AB didn't tie the game up and give him a second chance. Role player on a national title team and not leading team anywhere after basically makes him Albert Mouring. Think about it - his only two NCAA games after the Butler win would have been the ISU debacle and a 5-20 clunker in a down to the wire loss to Saint Joe's with a couple blown possessions late.

We put a 15-0 run on Nova with Bazz on the bench and then beat Florida with our D )and DD) after the Gators effectively schemed defensively to render Bazz ineffective. The last three games were largely about us holding three very good teams to around 50 points each.

Bazz made up for the early-tourney blemishes quite obviously (and frankly played a really smart game against Florida to not force things) but If you attribute the title to Bazz alone, you weren't paying much attention.
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Not to Bazz alone, but impossible without him.
 
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