World Series Thread

[superjohn]

Rendon might have saved MLB, imagine deciding a World Series on that. They still look really bad though...

Joon Lee on Twitter: "Trea Turner: “Joe Torre is sitting right there … he’s sitting with his head down trying not to look up.” https://post original url/BM92dbAKGN" / Twitter

 

[navery12]

Stupid rule and they chose a bad team to apply it. But that's the right call

 

[Dove]

Tomorrow, Mad Max comin'.

 

[the Q]

Stupid rule and they chose a bad team to apply it. But that's the right call

add the double bag and it’s never controversial again.

 

[Hurleyman216]

Stupid rule and they chose a bad team to apply it. But that's the right call

That was absolutely not the right call and you can’t make that call in a critical game of a World Series. The runner has the right to get to the bag and he was in no way outside of the base path there. Atrocious call to the extent that the umpire crew should either get fined or be reprimanded in some way. Unfortunately for the Nats it wasn’t a reviewable play. Kudos to Martinez for getting tossed even after Rendon hit the home run to put them up 3.

 

[navery12]

That was absolutely not the right call and you can’t make that call in a critical game of a World Series. The runner has the right to get to the bag and he was in no way outside of the base path there. Atrocious call to the extent that the umpire crew should either get fined or be reprimanded in some way. Unfortunately for the Nats it wasn’t a reviewable play. Kudos to Martinez for getting tossed even after Rendon hit the home run to put them up 3.

Trea Turner ran in fair territory the entire time, the base path is a 3 foot box in foul territory. He never even ran in the base path the entire time. Want to tell me they shouldn't make that call in the 7th inning of a WS game, absolutely. Want to tell me it's not the correct call, that's wrong.

 

[superjohn]

If that's the right call, every runner who ever runs down the line for a single needs to be called out.

 

[navery12]

If that's the right call, every runner who ever runs down the line for a single needs to be called out.

There's a second half, you also have to interfere with the fielder catching the throw. Which doesn't apply in that scenario

 

[the Q]

If that's the right call, every runner who ever runs down the line for a single needs to be called out.

Not every runner interferes with the play.

altuve was Inside the lane for his play as well.

If you run outside the lane you run the risk of being out.

 

[Hurleyman216]

Trea Turner ran in fair territory the entire time, the base path is a 3 foot box in foul territory. He never even ran in the base path the entire time. Want to tell me they shouldn't make that call in the 7th inning of a WS game, absolutely. Want to tell me it's not the correct call, that's wrong.

You clearly don’t watch much baseball. Not going to argue with you about it. There’s a reason that Davey Martinez almost had another heart attack on the field...I’ll give you a hint, it wasn’t because he was upset because of the rule, it was a straight up botched call and one that couldn’t be reviewed after.

 

[navery12]

You clearly don’t watch much baseball. Not going to argue with you about it. There’s a reason that Davey Martinez almost had another heart attack on the field...I’ll give you a hint, it wasn’t because he was upset because of the rule, it was a straight up botched call and one that couldn’t be reviewed after.

Lol I watch every single Mets game and multiple other games in pieces every night. But I'm not going to argue this, I posted the rule. If you choose not to interpret it the same way that's on you. It's a horrible call to make at that point of the game. But based on the rule it's correct

 

[the Q]

Hopefully this play gets us the double bag.

Then there is zero excuse to ever be running in fair territory.

 

[Hurleyman216]

Lol I watch every single Mets game and multiple other games in pieces every night. But I'm not going to argue this, I posted the rule. If you choose not to interpret it the same way that's on you

No offense to you, but I don’t consider watching the Mets baseball. I have a close family member who is an umpire at the college level and he texted me right after that play and said “wow, that was an awful call”

 

[superjohn]

Lol I watch every single Mets game and multiple other games in pieces every night. But I'm not going to argue this, I posted the rule. If you choose not to interpret it the same way that's on you. It's a horrible call to make at that point of the game. But based on the rule it's correct

It's a horrible call at any time in a game, if you make that call you'll be calling people out at first all game long.

 

[navery12]

It's a horrible call at any time in a game, if you make that call you'll be calling people out at first all game long.

Absolutely, you'd be calling that 15 times a game if you enforced the rule all the time. My only point is that it is the rule and should obviously be changed

 

[gampelcrazies]

Hopefully this play gets us the double bag.

Then there is zero excuse to ever be running in fair territory.

Um. No. This isn’t softball.

 

[navery12]

No offense to you, but I don’t consider watching the Mets baseball. I have a close family member who is an umpire at the college level and he texted me right after that play and said “wow, that was an awful call”

Well spoiler, the Mets do play baseball. And again, you're missing the point. Bad call, absolutely. Bad rule, absolutely. But it's the rule

 

[brasssbonanzaa]

Trea Turner ran in fair territory the entire time, the base path is a 3 foot box in foul territory. He never even ran in the base path the entire time. Want to tell me they shouldn't make that call in the 7th inning of a WS game, absolutely. Want to tell me it's not the correct call, that's wrong.

The running lane (3-foot box) only applies to the last 45 feet of the first base path. He's veering somewhat back towards the bag as he approaches it. He's literally inches to the left of the line, which is considered part of the 3-foot box.
The interference rule also says the throw *must* be catchable. Arguably, that one was not since the first baseman had to reach across the bag into what would've been the base path to catch it.

Applying that rule in that time, given the runner's position, the bad throw, and the circumstance, would be like calling a 10-second free throw violation in a tied national championship game with 30 seconds left.

 

[navery12]

The running lane (3-foot box) only applies to the last 45 feet of the first base path. He's veering somewhat back towards the bag as he approaches it. He's literally inches to the left of the line, which is considered part of the 3-foot box.
The interference rule also says the throw *must* be catchable. Arguably, that one was not since the first baseman had to reach across the bag into what would've been the base path to catch it.

Applying that rule in that time, given the runner's position, the bad throw, and the circumstance, would be like calling a 10-second free throw violation in a tied national championship game with 30 seconds left.

Yeah the throw being catchable is definitely arguable. It was really close and can't let that decide a game. Luckily it didn't

 

[superjohn]

The running lane (3-foot box) only applies to the last 45 feet of the first base path. He's veering somewhat back towards the bag as he approaches it. He's literally inches to the left of the line, which is considered part of the 3-foot box.
The interference rule also says the throw *must* be catchable. Arguably, that one was not since the first baseman had to reach across the bag into what would've been the base path to catch it.

Applying that rule in that time, given the runner's position, the bad throw, and the circumstance, would be like calling a 10-second free throw violation in a tied national championship game with 30 seconds left.

It would be a ridiculously bad call in the second inning of the second game of the season between the Marlins and Reds.

 

[Hurleyman216]

The running lane (3-foot box) only applies to the last 45 feet of the first base path. He's veering somewhat back towards the bag as he approaches it. He's literally inches to the left of the line, which is considered part of the 3-foot box.
The interference rule also says the throw *must* be catchable. Arguably, that one was not since the first baseman had to reach across the bag into what would've been the base path to catch it.

Applying that rule in that time, given the runner's position, the bad throw, and the circumstance, would be like calling a 10-second free throw violation in a tied national championship game with 30 seconds left.

Bingo. And he was in the base path when he needed to be (as he was reaching the base).

 

[bballgrda]

Same ump responsible for this BS

 

[superjohn]

Joe Torre- he was out because he interfered with Gurriel at the bag. Gutless.

 

[eebmg]

Joe Torre- he was out because he interfered with Gurriel at the bag. Gutless.

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What can you do if your job description is to be a schill for the institution that pays your salary

More to the point; the interviewer's are gutless by not saying that the call was garbage and the replay rules are stupid.

 

[mauconnfan]

There's a second half, you also have to interfere with the fielder catching the throw. Which doesn't apply in that scenario
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It’s the wrong call the wrong rule it’s all wrong. Baseball players can’t and have never run on or to the right of the line you can’t its impossible. You will always be close to the grass when running to first so by no means is touching it out of the baseline. A good throw to the outside of the bag he’s out. All first baseman ask for throws at all times outside because of where everyone runs to first and Turners path was no different than anyone’s. Bad throw period, awful call. His foot hits center of the bag does anyone remember a player ever nicking the inside of the bag on the right beating out a bunt or swinging bunt? No because they don’t they run through the middle like Turner.

 

[donyell34]

Having no dog in this series and actually like both teams there's nothing like a 7th game in the world series and hope it's a classic game.

 

[Dove]

It’s the wrong call the wrong rule it’s all wrong. Baseball players can’t and have never run on or to the right of the line you can’t its impossible. You will always be close to the grass when running to first so by no means is touching it out of the baseline. A good throw to the outside of the bag he’s out. All first baseman ask for throws at all times outside because of where everyone runs to first and Turners path was no different than anyone’s. Bad throw period, awful call. His foot hits center of the bag does anyone remember a player ever nicking the inside of the bag on the right beating out a bunt or swinging bunt? No because they don’t they run through the middle like Turner.

Yeah. How in God's name can a right handed batter not run just inside of that left-side line?

 

[the Q]

It’s the wrong call the wrong rule it’s all wrong. Baseball players can’t and have never run on or to the right of the line you can’t its impossible. You will always be close to the grass when running to first so by no means is touching it out of the baseline. A good throw to the outside of the bag he’s out. All first baseman ask for throws at all times outside because of where everyone runs to first and Turners path was no different than anyone’s. Bad throw period, awful call. His foot hits center of the bag does anyone remember a player ever nicking the inside of the bag on the right beating out a bunt or swinging bunt? No because they don’t they run through the middle like Turner.

the rule is just written wonky. But every single player is taught to run in the lane growing up. Every one.

The reason it looks bad on this one is that the contact would’ve occurred even if he did run in the lane. But because he was running in fair territory they banter him out.

it could’ve been avoided with gurriel fielding it properly.

one of the few smart things smoltz said, it is one of the harder rules to decipher. Especially in real time.

 

[the Q]

I think the dumber part of the rule is how Gomes had to go back to first...when he was forced to run to second on contact

 

[the Q]

It is a bad rule and needs to be fixed. But based on the rule book...it was technically accurate.