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The USA has to beat Iran no matter what. If they pick up a point against England that makes it much more likely they advance.
 
Jay-Bone said:
Damn, both in stoppage. So basically we need a W against England now, correct? Great......
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No. In fact, this result arguably means the match today is less significant than the one on Tuesday. Unless we beat England, we have to beat Iran.

If we beat England, need:
  • Draw vs. Iran
  • Lose vs. Iran, England doesn't beat Wales and we beat England/Wales on GD

If we draw England, need:
- Win vs. Iran

If we lose to England, need:
- Win vs. Iran AND Wales doesn't beat England and beat us on GD


So essentially, unless we beat England, the requirements for Tuesday are virtually unchanged.
 
Tenspro2002 said:
No. In fact, this result arguably means the match today is less significant than the one on Tuesday. Unless we beat England, we have to beat Iran.

If we beat England, need:
  • Draw vs. Iran
  • Lose vs. Iran, England doesn't beat Wales and we beat England/Wales on GD

If we draw England, need:
- Win vs. Iran

If we lose to England, need:
- Win vs. Iran AND Wales doesn't beat England and beat us on GD


So essentially, unless we beat England, the requirements for Tuesday are virtually unchanged.
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Right, duh. I hadn't had my coffee yet. Thanks.
 
Have to beat Iran regardless.

Wales losing means we go from likely not making it to likely making it if we beat Iran.
Almost a lock if we draw England...If beat Iran
If we beat England we top the group (and avoid Netherlands)...if we beat Iran
If we lose to England, nothing much changes...if we beat Iran, we are less likely to lose on GD should Wales beat England

It's my conclusion that beating Iran is key. Who just beat a team we couldn't beat.
 
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Jaker said:
Wow, what a weak call for Ronaldo PK.
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SubbaBub said:
The Renaldo PK is a classic soft call.
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No penalty at all. The Ref should have gone to the video tape as I have. 50/50 ball, shoulder to shoulder. Ronaldo trips. If the defender isn't allowed to play defense on a 50/50 ball, I don't know what the point of a defender is anymore. It's the world cup. Earn it.

 
Kolumbo said:
No penalty at all. The Ref should have gone to the video tape as I have. 50/50 ball, shoulder to shoulder. Ronaldo trips. If the defender isn't allowed to play defense on a 50/50 ball, I don't know what the point of a defender is anymore. It's the world cup. Earn it.

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Pretty Boy flops............................surprise!
 
SubbaBub said:
It's my conclusion that beating Iran is key. Who just beat a team we couldn't beat.
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It did take Iran 98 minutes and being up a man to beat wales. Although it did look like quite a few good scoring opportunities for both sides watching the highlights.
 
Is it me or is there a lot of parity this cup? The only real stompings were Spain and England. The Dutch just drew with Ecuador. A lot of big names sweating it out or losing.
 
Winter WC didn't allow teams much time to gel. This helps lesser teams who draw mostly from their domestic leagues and can train together more often.

Also, many of the world's best players are hurt, old, or missing because their nations didn't qualify.

The length of games is also helping the better conditioned teams.

Lots of opportunities, but the cream will rise to the top in the knockouts.
 
National Anthems played and I feel intense! GO USA
 
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England really shutting down our favorite move, attacking down the left side with Robinson. They aren’t letting him make that run. US passing hasn’t been crisp.
 
Love the tactic by GG to frustrate Eng in the back.. Musah looks scared. We got the bad Dest. Kane is going to be a problem. Going to need plenty of those blocks.

Robinson has room. MCKENNIE HAS TO BURY THAT!!!

Any back pass in the center if the field courts disaster.

26 in, so far so good
 
We were all rightfully critical of US corners last match as far as delivery. Today the delivery is there but there is no action within the box.
 
HuskyHawk said:
England really shutting down our favorite move, attacking down the left side with Robinson. They aren’t letting him make that run. US passing hasn’t been crisp.
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Robinson looks hesitant and not knowing where to position himself on transitions
 
If we draw here, the problem is that we'll still need to beat Iran, but Iran will most likely be able to play for the draw (only eliminated with a draw if Wales beats England). They'll almost certainly pack it in and play for 0-0.
 
Robinsons is doing three jobs at the same time. He's been a beast.

Save for his horrible touch, so has McKennie. Wright has contributed.

Dest and Musah should be 1/2 off. If McKennie can go 90. I put Arronson in for Musah and Reyna in for Weah. I don't think we have a good option for Dest. 50/50 on replacing him with Yedlin and I'm a bit scared to use Scally.

If we don't convert our chances, we will lose. Can't defend for 90 min and hope to keep England off the board. Helps they are playing like crap, but they can open us up at anytime.

2nd half is going to be intense. Best case is to find an Eruzione early then hold on for dear life. But, don't sag back, keep pushing forward. England is weak playing out of the back.

The longer Stones ane McGuire have the ball, the better.
 
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Good tie for me. My England will play on and US should beat Iran. USA had a great plan and England was playing not to lose. USA had the best chances and should be proud. McGuire proved he belonged on the 3Lions side.
 
U.S. played well. Controlled the tempo of the game. England seemed disinterested. Maguire was their best player. Kane was a non-factor.
 
I'll take the draw and the point. Course a win would have been better. But we control our destiny. Beat Iran and we're through.
 
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Are USA and England that close or was England just playing hard enough to draw? I expected a much more difficult time for us.
 
SubbaBub said:
It's my conclusion that beating Iran is key. Who just beat a team we couldn't beat.
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On the other hand, iran lost 6-2 to a team we tied so there's that. The prize is in front of us and it's very achievable.
 
Kolumbo said:
Are USA and England that close or was England just playing hard enough to draw? I expected a much more difficult time for us.
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I was surprised that England did not get more aggressive offensively in the second half. I'm guessing they figured they'd roll the dice on opportunities opening up eventually (like that Kane header on the corner at the end) but play conservatively with a win under their belt. They also have GD if needed.
 
Kolumbo said:
Are USA and England that close or was England just playing hard enough to draw? I expected a much more difficult time for us.
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Overly conservative and sluggish. Only they know why.

I'm stunned/curious why Southgate didn't play Foden. He would have eaten our lunch wide (Dest). The guy is a stone killer just coming into his prime.
 
The agenda has been the same since the groups were announced...beat Iran. USA controls their own destiny. Win and advance to the knockout stages where anything can happen.
 
huskypantz said:
On the other hand, iran lost 6-2 to a team we tied so there's that. The prize is in front of us and it's very achievable.
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Transitive property doesn't work here.

England beat Iran 6-2.
Iran beat Wales 2-0.
Wales drew against us.
We drew against England, even though in theory we should be 6 goals worse.
 
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