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Disagree. It is likely that he is gone and I don't blame him.He was already punished by being suspended and IMO pulling his scholly had more to do with basketball reasons than discipline.
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And you know this how?
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I don't agree with this at all. Even if Kromah is a better pound for pound player than Wolf (and who knows if this is the case), it would make a heck of a lot more sense to choose the 7 footer over the 4th guard given the state of our roster.
If it was a pure basketball move like you say, then it's a pretty bad one. I doubt the new administration was too pleased with Mr. Wolf.
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My preference would have been that they just told him he was not allowed to return to the basketball team but I can live with this. More than I expected really. If he leaves anyway, I'm not sure it shows any particular high character by anyone in the athletic department, just a sort of buck passing move. Those who want him gone can be satisfied. Those who want him back, well it was his decision, not UConn's that he not return. If he returns, he returns as a walk-on. I can live with that. I hope, though I know its too much to hope for, that if he does return he doesn't get a hero's welcome at "midnight madness." He was a jerk. He embarrassed UConn and he did it at a critical point in the season. A true demonstration of his newfound maturity would be to just go away.
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The alleged assault had nothing to do with basketball, so how is a basketball punishment (i.e. suspension) paying his dues?
I'm not saying crucify the guy but to connect a non-basketball incident with basketball is baffling to me. The event happened on school grounds so the University has the right to determine its action. Its not like he's getting kicked out of school, or unable to play basketball, its just that the University is deciding not to educate him for free to play. Are we saying he is now the victim because his scholly was revoked?
I'm not saying crucify the guy but to connect a non-basketball incident with basketball is baffling to me. The event happened on school grounds so the University has the right to determine its action. Its not like he's getting kicked out of school, or unable to play basketball, its just that the University is deciding not to educate him for free to play. Are we saying he is now the victim because his scholly was revoked?
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Well said!!! Enough is enough. Taking his scholarship seems to be petty. Charges were dropped. So he made some mistakes, so what? didn't we all do it at some point? I don't know his finance but this really hurts.
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I'm sure you would singing a different tune if it was your daughter in the alleged incident.
Wolf is lucky to be at UConn and allowed to play basketball. I'm not going to crucify the guy for a late night incident that was dropped, but enough happened to warrant an arrest and a confrontation with a female definitely happened.
It's over now and i hope Wolf comes back, but to act like UConn is in the wrong for pulling his scholarship is absurd.
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All of you "Wolf is now a victim" posters must be cool with the UConnvict nicknames and all the other mud that gets slung our way. If someone needs to be made an example of so that this type of behavior won't be tolerated anymore then so be it, the numbers that Duffy put up awhile back of UConn basketball players that have been arrested were ridiculous. Now if players see someone lose their scholarship for knocking a females head around maybe they'll think twice before doing something stupid that lands UConn in the news for all the wrong reasons.
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What price has he paid? He got away pretty easy, it seems. Folks closer to the situation than me thought for sure he'd be gone at the time. To his credit, he has said and done all the right things since.
If this was a basketball decision, I would think they wouldn't want him back at all. Taking away his schollie just to give it to another doesn't seem to be Ollie's style.
I want him back, I think he is better than Nolan.
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LOL, I believe in redemption but that doesn't mean you get off without consequences. What we disagree on is what constitutes fair consequences for his actions. He's not in jail. He doesn't have a criminal record. He wasn't expelled from the University. He wasn't kicked off the basketball team. Indeed he has an ivitation to try out for a spot. He seems to have suffered pretty minimally. Oh he'll have ot write a check for his tuition and such, but so will most of the other undergraduates on campus. And perhaps next time someone asks him to leave his or her room he will think back, remember writing a check for $40 grand or so, and decide it is a good idea to honor the request. If he takes/took full advantage of the situation, he gets to leave UConn with a degree for the cost of a single year. Most undergraduates would take that deal in a New York minutes.
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What price did he pay? He went to counseling, which based on comments by his own lawyer, he apparently needed. He was suspended for 8 games, but that's pretty much typical when a player gets arrested...suspended until the court hearing at minimum. He was not kicked out of school. He was not even kicked off the basketball team. He was not fined. He was not jailed. He will not have a criminal record. Any or all of those things were possible for what he did. Apparently he had a problem, maybe a couple. He worked on them and is, I presume, continuing to do so. But he also committed criminal acts for which he really wasn't punished by the criminal justice system. He's hardly the victim.
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You can visit abused women shelters (unfortunately not cemeteries) and poll women on how many of them forgave their attackers. There are many reasons that women forgive in these situations, however its inconclusive as to how meaningful it was or if it was done in fear. I would like to think that she weighed Wolf's potential life impacting consequences in making her decision. Her act of forgiveness did give him the opportunity to stay in school and play basketball, and closed the criminal case. But Wolf is dealing with his actions in a punishment that will hopefully save him from further such incidents as well as eliminate inappropriate behaviors. Many people play college athletics and get educated on their own dime, its not a tragedy. He was not kicked off the team. I look forward to seeing him on the court, and hopes he adds to something special we have next season.
As for the $40k if he gets married and winds up never hitting his wife and causing a divorce, he will have saved exponentially more than that. And yes I can see Ollie agreeing to this, its a good compromise as in most cases scholarships are not a right of entitlement or to be taken for granted.
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You'd have a point if his mistake was getting arrested for underage drinking. His mistake was quite a bit more serious than that.
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Fans that think college basketball is a Disney movie have not been paying attention. Taking away his scholi for an arrest is exactly what UCONN should do- other teams cheat, lie and break rules all the time and get away with it- UCONN farts in an elevator and we get dinged with multi year penalties.
It is important for the school to reflect the new coaches strong points- and that does not allow for any behavior that makes the news in a negative way. If you are not smart enough to get drunk and fight with your girlfriend and not have the cops come and arrest you- then you either need to play somewhere else or show you really care by walking on the team and paying your way.
This seems like a non issue to me.
It is important for the school to reflect the new coaches strong points- and that does not allow for any behavior that makes the news in a negative way. If you are not smart enough to get drunk and fight with your girlfriend and not have the cops come and arrest you- then you either need to play somewhere else or show you really care by walking on the team and paying your way.
This seems like a non issue to me.
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I think what Uconn did was the right thing. Wolf is not likely to contribute much to the team anyway. I think when he was given the scholarship originally, Uconn was hoping that he would develop into a solid front court player. He hasn't. He can still walk on if he wants but I would think the Kevin Ollie would want to give his minutes to others with a higher upside. Now that recruiting is on the up-tick he can use the extra scholarship.
I wish they hadn't taken his scholarship, but it probably had to be done. As a new coach in a program coming off NCAA sanctions, KO can't afford to be out of step with our cultural trend of harsh punishments and disdain for anyone who appears "soft" on any kind of offender.
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I have a tough time with this one. I'd have to think that Kevin Ollie would have done more than just drop his scholarship and he would face explulsion from UConn's disciplinary process if what he did rose to that level. Ultimately I don't know what happened... Ollie, the courts, and the University discipline process probably have a better sense of it than I do... so I'm going with that.
$40k is a lot of money. That's a substantial punishment if his crime is basically acting like an balloon knot and not having the good sense to leave a crappy situation before he does something stupid. It was more serious than just being a belligerent balloon knot, he put his hands on her. No matter what his intent nothing good could come from doing that.
Oh and how much he does or doesn't contribute to the team should have zero impact on this. If it was the best player on the team in the same situation I'd hope they handle it the exact same way.
$40k is a lot of money. That's a substantial punishment if his crime is basically acting like an balloon knot and not having the good sense to leave a crappy situation before he does something stupid. It was more serious than just being a belligerent balloon knot, he put his hands on her. No matter what his intent nothing good could come from doing that.
Oh and how much he does or doesn't contribute to the team should have zero impact on this. If it was the best player on the team in the same situation I'd hope they handle it the exact same way.
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One can hope that this sets a new model for dealing with this stuff. I hope we never have to see whether it holds true, but in the event that it does, it would be good to see the Athletic Department apply similar penalties to other offenders.
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C'mon, you sort of hope we get to see. Any thoughts on anything else that's been going on lately?
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The NCAA is horsebleep. And they have no standing in this situation in any way.
If someone goes to jail and serves their time, they are judged by their actions in the present. It's called paying for your crime.
The charges against Wolf were dropped. He admitted his mistake. He took the proper steps to move on. There was no crime. So he loses his scholarship? How is that fair in any way?
If someone goes to jail and serves their time, they are judged by their actions in the present. It's called paying for your crime.
The charges against Wolf were dropped. He admitted his mistake. He took the proper steps to move on. There was no crime. So he loses his scholarship? How is that fair in any way?
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Who said anything about the NCAA having something to do with this? The charges were dropped, but that was a decision by the prosecutor and the judge. But he is subject to other penalties as well. The university could have, if it so decided, expelled or suspended him from school. Then there is the basketball level. The basketball team could have kicked him off the team, revoked his scholarship, or suspended him from part of the season or Ollie could have told him to run stadium steps at 5 AM(if we still had a stadium)...Those are all independent judgements, and generally speaking, one is not dependent on the other. Though obviously, if he had been sentenced to a year in prison, for example, one can assume he also be out of school and off the basketball team, and if he had been kicked out of school, he's also gone from basketball. But except in those extremes, each of those are independent judgements. It is really pretty common to have to answer to multiple sources in a situation like this. And one other point. Just because the charges were dropped, that doesn't mean that he didn't do what he was accused of doing. The court simply decided that a treatment program was preferable to punishment in this instance. Ollie and manuel made a different decision.
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All of this talk about "charges" and "crime" is irrelevant. He embarrassed himself and the program. He caused "Uconn basketball" to once again be in the news for a negative reason, which has happened a few too many times in recent years. He didn't just get caught drinking at a party - it was far worse than that. There's a new administration (and coach) in charge who clearly want to clean up our image. And they decided that what Enosch did warrants more than an 8 game suspension.
And guess what? If he wants - and if he earns it - he still could be jumping center against Maryland in the Barclays Center. You could make the argument that kicking him off the team completely would be excessive. I don't think this is at all.
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Too soon to tell, but I doubt those posters who think that KO is doing this to improve the "program's image" or to kowtow to the NCAA are correct. KO is a different kind of guy. Character matters with him as does accountability. He is making it abundantly clear that the bar at Connecticut is very high in terms of your personal actions. That is his expectation and I bet he doesn't care one bit what you, I or the NCAA thinks about it. JMO
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We recently had a situation which was somewhat similar locally. A local police officer was arrested for some off duty illegal activity. The prosecutor and the court dropped the charges after he entered a rehab program. The Mayor, who has the power to fire him elected not to do so. The Police Chief who has the authority for discipline in the department short of firing, where he can only recommend, suspended the officer for 30 days and re-assigned him to some lower duty level. Nobody said, "well the charges were dropped so he shouldn't be suspended and re-assigned." He violated the law, but the DA elected not to prosecute. the mayor decided his crime didn't rise to a fireable offense when taken in the total context(i.e. he was getting treatment and the charges were dropped), but the chief saw his violation of departmental policies as worthy of suspension. Same thing happened with Mr. Wolf.
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Good point. I see it possibly happening too now that you say it. So use to kids with a bball mind set to just get on with playing professionally and forgo the added expense.
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