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awhom111 said:
When they play the Storm in August, I wonder if she will tell Jade Melbourne that she would still be coaching there if Jade had not opted to turn pro instead of heading to Tempe.
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Very interesting question. ASU did have four players with eligibility leave after CTTs retirement. However I think her decision involved factors such as the ineptitude and lack of support from the AD's office, the upcoming disintegration of the conference, as well as her reluctance to deal with the changing landscape of college athletics.
 
bbsamjj said:
In fairness to Quinn (who I actually think has done a pretty great job in making a clearly rebuilding Seattle team somewhat competitive), is there a better shot for Seattle than letting Jewell create magic?
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Yeah move the ball around. Set screens for Loyd or Whitcomb (who has a lightning quick release and was red hot). Get Magbegor involved. Get to the basket and shoot from close range and grab an O-board (they dominated the glass). The WNBA is arguably the toughest pro league in the world to earn and keep a spot, there shouldn’t be a single player taking 35+ shots a night IMO.
 
Here’s a question I’m curious about from the board. When Stewie and A’ja were coming out of college, did you expect them to become the (general consensus) top two players in the league? I didn’t start following ball until ~2016 so didn’t have a frame of reference like when EDD, Griner, Parker came out.
 
GoChips20 said:
Here’s a question I’m curious about from the board. When Stewie and A’ja were coming out of college, did you expect them to become the (general consensus) top two players in the league? I didn’t start following ball until ~2016 so didn’t have a frame of reference like when EDD, Griner, Parker came out.
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I thought they would be. There's something about them during their college days that had me thinking they'd both be special once in the WNBA.
 
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I’m out. Aces are by far the best team in the league and no chance ANY team makes a run against them in the playoffs now hat B. Jones is out. My interest in this season has plummeted and I’ll probably just stick around to catch a few UConn players every now and then. Le sigh… WNBA makes it so hard to be a fan.
 
GoChips20 said:
Here’s a question I’m curious about from the board. When Stewie and A’ja were coming out of college, did you expect them to become the (general consensus) top two players in the league? I didn’t start following ball until ~2016 so didn’t have a frame of reference like when EDD, Griner, Parker came out.
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Stewart yes--her senior year she was ridiculously dominant, had won 4 titles, 3 straight POY seasons and the consensus was that she'd likely be the next best player in the world (which she has more than lived up to).

Wilson has been better than most people (myself included) thought. She doesn't have the same all around skill set that Stewart/Parker/EDD have but she's a beast inside on both ends and is much quicker than most opposing centers. I thought she'd be a great pro (maybe in the mold of Tina Charles) but didn't expect her to be as good as she's been. Having really good teammates helps a lot too.

Parker coming out of college most predicted would be one of the best ever. No one her size ever showed the overall skill, size and athleticism she brought to the table and she was a top player for team USA at the world championships when she was just a sophomore. She's had an all time great career but in some ways I think we were robbed of seeing her at her peak due to her not being fully healthy from 2009-2011.

Griner similarly had a ton of hype entering the pros. Similar to Parker, no one had the combination of size and mobility that BG possessed at 6-9. She was the most dominant post defender of all time and improved leaps and bounds offensively while at Baylor. She appeared on a great trajectory in Phoenix winning a title her second year but she never evolved into a Wilt Chamberlain type presence that I thought she would and Phoenix has largely underperformed during her tenure there.

EDD there wasn't as much hype on due to lack of exposure in college, but the league was incredibly excited for the "Big 3" of her, Griner and Diggins-Smith. I don't recall how people projected she'd do as a pro, but I think most thought she'd be a great player (which she's lived up to). Coming out of HS she had an insane amount of hype before experiencing burn out and taking a year off to play volleyball.
 
hoopsnloops32 said:
I’m out. Aces are by far the best team in the league and no chance ANY team makes a run against them in the playoffs now hat B. Jones is out. My interest in this season has plummeted and I’ll probably just stick around to catch a few UConn players every now and then. Le sigh… WNBA makes it so hard to be a fan.
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Nothing is a foregone conclusion. We haven't had a back to back Champ in the WNBA in FOREVER. Who saw it coming when the Sky and Mercury met in the Finals a couple years ago?
 
That said the Aces look really good so far. Nearly 60 at the half (against a good defensive team) with only 1 made 3. They are getting just about anything they want in the lane.
 
nwhoopfan said:
Nothing is a foregone conclusion. We haven't had a back to back Champ in the WNBA in FOREVER. Who saw it coming when the Sky and Mercury met in the Finals a couple years ago?
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I mean this is. Not only are the Aces the best team, there is a clear officiating bias to protect them as well. Just watching this suns game is absurd.
 
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GoChips20 said:
Here’s a question I’m curious about from the board. When Stewie and A’ja were coming out of college, did you expect them to become the (general consensus) top two players in the league? I didn’t start following ball until ~2016 so didn’t have a frame of reference like when EDD, Griner, Parker came out.
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It was pretty obvious to me those two would pretty quickly be the top forces and the future faces of the WNBA, as well as Team USA. What they’re doing is no surprise for me at all.
 
nwhoopfan said:
That said the Aces look really good so far. Nearly 60 at the half (against a good defensive team) with only 1 made 3. They are getting just about anything they want in the lane.
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With Parker/Plum looking more like their vintage selves they look darn near unbeatable. They're throttling the top teams in the league right now.
 
Dezoworld said:
Connecticut Sun should look to add Tina Charles. And they need another consistent scoring guard
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Nope. When is the last time she actually helped a team? Not Washington, definitely not Phoenix or Seattle. She would be subtraction by addition for the Sun.
 
Okay...Hammon did a better job at halftime than White did apparently.
 
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nwhoopfan said:
Nope. When is the last time she actually helped a team? Not Washington, definitely not Phoenix or Seattle. She would be subtraction by addition for the Sun.
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I've been a Charles skeptic but I think this could be a solid fit. Connecticut needs help inside and Tina would fill in as a 3rd option offensively after Bonner/Thomas. Charles isn't coming in and displacing a proven starter like she did last year (she'd replace Allen), and I'm guessing she comes in a bit humbled and after watching how last year played out. She did burn bridges with the organization 9 years ago when she threatened to sit out if she wasn't traded so I don't think the Sun go for it, but this seems like the only viable option where Charles could play for a potential contender and be of help.
 
The Aces reserves were abysmal again. Clark and Stokes in the regular rotation are fine, Bell looks ok at times, but you put all 5 subs on the floor together and they look just awful. Can't score, turn it over constantly, and can't stop the other team from scoring.
 
nwhoopfan said:
Nope. When is the last time she actually helped a team? Not Washington, definitely not Phoenix or Seattle. She would be subtraction by addition for the Sun.
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She would help a team who needs size and scoring down low. You maybe right about Washington and Phoenix but she had a decent season with Seattle. The Sun can use her they got dominated on the boards today by Las Vegas. Need a big body Alyssa giving her iq abilities won't get it done alone in the paint
 
nwhoopfan said:
Nope. When is the last time she actually helped a team? Not Washington, definitely not Phoenix or Seattle. She would be subtraction by addition for the Sun.
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Wait 2021 while on the Mystic she lead the lead in scoring about 24 ppg and average 10 rpg. When she got to Phonix they haven't been good for a while. Landed in a bad situation
 
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nwhoopfan said:
Nothing is a foregone conclusion. We haven't had a back to back Champ in the WNBA in FOREVER. Who saw it coming when the Sky and Mercury met in the Finals a couple years ago?
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Aces are definitely the favorite if they stay healthy, but the league is so good any game can be very entertaining (see Seattle v Minnesota the other night).
 
bbsamjj said:
Aces are definitely the favorite if they stay healthy, but the league is so good any game can be very entertaining (see Seattle v Minnesota the other night).
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Entertaining but ultimately meaningless, which isn’t interesting. With Vegas not having an equal in the league it’s going to be hard to maintain interest through the summer and into the playoffs me thinks. I’ve personally found my interest in games fading as the seasons gone on and contenders started separating themselves from pretenders. Now it feels that much more exaggerated because it’s a one team race. I’ll still watch the Sun and some UConn players teams but other than that it’s starting to feel more like a summer league than THE professional women’s basketball league.
 
Well, you are speaking only for yourself. I find the Aces very entertaining to watch. There is a lot of talent spread around the league, I'm sure there will be many good games. And the regular season really doesn't matter anyway, hasn't as long as there have been 8 teams making the playoffs. That doesn't change with one team being dominant.
 
nwhoopfan said:
Well, you are speaking only for yourself. I find the Aces very entertaining to watch. There is a lot of talent spread around the league, I'm sure there will be many good games. And the regular season really doesn't matter anyway, hasn't as long as there have been 8 teams making the playoffs. That doesn't change with one team being dominant.
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I disagree that there’s a lot of talent spread around the league, I mean Cheyenne Parker is an all star for crying out loud. The problem is there’s a lot of talent concentrated in a couple of places, which leads to a handful of great teams and then a bunch of mediocre to and basketball everywhere else.

And it’s not that there isn’t a lot of great players that come into the WNBA but the league isn’t set up in a way to develop talent consistently, so if you aren’t ready NOW your really on you own. I’m not sure any professional league squanders talent the way the WNBA does tbh.
 
Chicago Sky general manager and head coach James Wade is leaving the WNBA and taking an assistant coaching job with the NBA's Toronto Raptors, the Sky announced on Saturday. Wade was Chicago's head coach since 2019, leading the franchise to its first WNBA title in 2021.7 hours ago [LINK]
 

Why the Aces are the WNBA’s basically unbeatable team​

When the Las Vegas Aces played the New York Liberty, it was supposed to be the game of the season. Supposed to be a drag-it-out, fight to the finish. Supposed to be a preview of the WNBA Finals to come — and maybe it was.

But instead of a down-to-the-wire contest, it was a blowout. The Aces completely dominated the Liberty with a 98-81 victory. The game was billed as the “Battle of the Superteams,” but it wasn’t a battle, and there weren’t two superteams on the court. There was just one team that was much, much better than its opponent. This begs the question, “Can anyone beat the Aces?”
 
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