Why is the Big East terrible for UConn and where should UConn go instead?

[freescooter]

I agree, which is why I said we already have the P2. Everyone else will still try to compete but not with the financial backing of the P2. Eventually (maybe soon) the ACC's buyer's remorse will force it to do something because FSU and Clemson will get tired of trying to compete with less money while also supporting bcu and cuse. something's gotta give.

I'd love to see an ACC-Big East merger but that seems impossible after the ACC already pillaged the Big East. And Duke-UNC probably want to keep their place as the only show in town basketball-wise.

Why would the ACC want to merge with the NBE? The most certainly could get anyone they want without taking the dreck. UConn would join tomorrow. Villanova would too. Who else would they want? Georgetown because BCU needs a help holding up the league? St John’s who couldn’t even find a coach willing to take the job last go round? What happens when Rick leaves?

Duke and UNC are undoubtedly the cream of the ACC but they are not the only major players. Virginia, Louisville, NC State have long histories of success. Syracuse is going through what many teams go through when they lose a Hall of Fame coach. Ask Villanova how that can go. We’ll see if they get it right this time? Tell me why they want to add Butler and DePaul and Georgetown and Providence.

 

[Kolumbo]

Why would the ACC want to merge with the NBE? The most certainly could get anyone they want without taking the dreck. UConn would join tomorrow. Villanova would too. Who else would they want? Georgetown because BCU needs a help holding up the league? St John’s who couldn’t even find a coach willing to take the job last go round? What happens when Rick leaves?

Duke and UNC are undoubtedly the cream of the ACC but they are not the only major players. Virginia, Louisville, NC State have long histories of success. Syracuse is going through what many teams go through when they lose a Hall of Fame coach. Ask Villanova how that can go. We’ll see if they get it right this time? Tell me why they want to add Butler and DePaul and Georgetown and Providence.

The ACC wouldn't want a merger but if it got pillaged and half the conference left it may need to take drastic measures. duke and unc are the only perennial powers these days. I could see a scenario where the ACC remnants would want to merge with the Big East if only to remain relevant in basketball. Obviously the chances are slim but who knows what will happen. Keep butler and xavier along for wins. I'm optimistic about depaul for some reason. Georgetown is the biggest failure given its resources (almost $4 billion endowment) and market but even Georgetown should be able to figure it out again after hanging itself with Ewing. DePaul, Georgetown, SJU - all large Catholic universities 20k+ enrollments in big markets. They need to succeed for the Big East to thrive.

 

[uconnyankee]

I think that we have seen the last of conference jumping that really impacted the scope of landscape for a while. For now everyone waits for the ACC’s media rights deal to end in 2035-36. That is unless schools find a way which both Clemson and Florida State could not do. Notre Dame will still be the almighty boss and do as they please.

So what happens to UConn? Basically they are stuck in the Big East for all sports and as an Independent in football. For now it doesn’t matter. Football can control whatever schools that they want to schedule as an Indy. Hurley and Auriemma are still at the top of their games. Our Olympic sports are top notch as well as the facilities that they play in.

In ten years moves will be made. The Big Ten and SEC will swipe ACC schools. Who acts first gets the bigger gifts. Georgia Tech, Miami, North Carolina and Virginia all AAU Universities will land in the Big 10. That league will now have recruiting in the Southeast into Florida. The SEC will grab Clemson, Virginia Tech and possibly NC State. Florida State is a toss up if they wanted them but they do not need them. Other than that there really isn’t another school worthwhile to grab. So eventually the SEC poaches a school from the Big 12. Which one? That is a good question. It can be Kansas, one of the Arizona schools or Utah.

That leaves the ACC with a broken core and will need to refill. But first, If I were Stanford, California or SMU I would really talk to the Big 12 and get your asses out of the East Coast. This is when UConn finally gets into the ACC along with USF and other schools that the league wants to snag from The American.

Things will happen much sooner because of BIG and SEC media deals coming to close.

Everything I’ve heard is 2028-2030 for next round

 

[Chuck]

TLDR: I think we're stuck in the Big East so we need the other teams to suck it up and get better. I'd like us to find a football home because I don't think Indy is sustainable... or fun.

Long version: We love to reference the Peanuts comic of Lucy pulling the ball from Charlie Brown. I thought Lucy was a jerk the first few times I saw this. But, even as a kid, I started to get annoyed by Charlie Brown falling for the trick every single time. At least take a less aggressive approach to the ball Chuck (Brown... not me).

We can claim that the Big 12 and ACC, and even the Big Ten have made mistakes in taking teams over UConn. But, while they are hurt by the bad decisions, we are hurt more. I fully expect UConn to be in the Big East for basketball for the foreseeable future. That includes after any 2030 shake up. For whatever reason, we're unwanted. We're like the spotted elephant or the doll in Rudolph. They weren't even misfits... but nobody wanted them for some reason.

The only way I see us getting picked by the Big 12 or ACC is if they get decimated. At that point, I really don't know if it would be worth leaving the Big East. It certainly wouldn't be smart financially to pay an exit fee and joining fee should the best properties be poached. I can see the ACC, for example, taking USF, Memphis, Tulane and others ahead of UConn until it would look like the AAC part 2. Why? Why wouldn't they. We haven't even been a rumored addition since we fell asleep and let Louisville send in the hookers. And the Big 12 totally used us to get their PAC 12 group by scaring them into thinking they'd take us.

If we get picked, and the deal works, then great. Otherwise, we need to bully the rest of the Big East into stepping up their basketball. The schools in the Big East like to think they are superior to the Catholic schools of the A10 or lower. They need to spend money to keep that perception as reality.

I do think we'd be better off in a football conference if we can pull it off without too much financial damage, but there is no G5 that I'd want our other sports to join.

 

[ConnMotors]

I said that when the ACC media rights deal comes to an end and schools become available then this is when the next wave of realignment takes place. One person said that the SEC will not expand. I’m sorry but I cannot agree with that comment. The Big 10 wants to move into the Southeast and Florida. The ACC will be hung out to dry. Miami, Virginia, Virginia Tech, North Carolina, NC State, Clemson, Florida State are all schools mentioned as saying see ya at some point.

I mentioned that California, SMU and Stanford should bag ass. This was said just because of the raid that would take place. Plus, the Big 12 would be a better fit for all three of those schools. Are there any teams in the Big 12 that the SEC would want to add? I mentioned one of the Arizona schools and Utah would be great additions.

In the Big East you have 10 basketball schools and UConn which I will refer to as a football schools. Once departing universities decide on their new destinations how many schools are left as part of the ACC? Left behind would be Pittsburgh, Syracuse, Boston College, Duke and Wake Forest. Then NC State, Georgia Tech and Florida State are probable. Add UConn and any East Coast school from the American Conference. This then becomes a 20 school league.

Clemson, Miami, North Carolina and both Virginia schools are certain to say good bye. Notre Dame can do whatever it wants as they normally do. Is this going to happen? I doubt it. But for UConn this would be the only chance of us to get into a real conference and get out of being an Independent.

Dream on…..

 

[ZooCougar]

I said that when the ACC media rights deal comes to an end and schools become available then this is when the next wave of realignment takes place. One person said that the SEC will not expand. I’m sorry but I cannot agree with that comment. The Big 10 wants to move into the Southeast and Florida. The ACC will be hung out to dry. Miami, Virginia, Virginia Tech, North Carolina, NC State, Clemson, Florida State are all schools mentioned as saying see ya at some point.

I mentioned that California, SMU and Stanford should bag ass. This was said just because of the raid that would take place. Plus, the Big 12 would be a better fit for all three of those schools. Are there any teams in the Big 12 that the SEC would want to add? I mentioned one of the Arizona schools and Utah would be great additions.

In the Big East you have 10 basketball schools and UConn which I will refer to as a football schools. Once departing universities decide on their new destinations how many schools are left as part of the ACC? Left behind would be Pittsburgh, Syracuse, Boston College, Duke and Wake Forest. Then NC State, Georgia Tech and Florida State are probable. Add UConn and any East Coast school from the American Conference. This then becomes a 20 school league.

Clemson, Miami, North Carolina and both Virginia schools are certain to say good bye. Notre Dame can do whatever it wants as they normally do. Is this going to happen? I doubt it. But for UConn this would be the only chance of us to get into a real conference and get out of being an Independent.

Dream on…..

Go ahead and disagree but many schools in the P2 are not pleased with how big these conferences are getting and the travel to go with it.

And where are both Virginia schools going? Gimme a break. Maybe if Tech moves for free. Even then.

 

[Windham4th]

Things will happen much sooner because of BIG and SEC media deals coming to close.

Everything I’ve heard is 2028-2030 for next round

Where do you hear things about Conference realignment? You better not mean another thread on these boards...

 

[ZooCougar]

For anyone who still doesn’t think the Big East is corrupt and awful, St. John’s only had 41 free throws tonight.