Why is the Big East terrible for UConn and where should UConn go instead?

[nelsonmuntz]

This is the thread for those that want to litter every thread on the basketball board with their anti-Big East rants. Let's hear why the Big East is so terrible. Let's hear why UConn would be better off in the American. Educate the rest of us.

@HooperScooper @bendm @RuffRuff @rashadray11

 

[bendm]

Now create a thread dedicated to your armchair quarterback/coach/AD/attorney/politician/statistician blustering. Let’s hear your expert opinion on everything imaginable.

 

[FightOnCT]

Simple answer:

Big East is much better than the American which is purgatory, but not the ideal long-term spot for UConn due to increasing revenue disparities across conferences and institutional structure (public FBS school)

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Now create a thread dedicated to your armchair quarterback/coach/AD/attorney/politician/statistician blustering. Let’s hear your expert opinion on everything imaginable.

You keep getting threads locked, so here is your opportunity to tell us how terrible the Big East is.

 

[bendm]

You keep getting threads locked, so here is your opportunity to tell us how terrible the Big East is.

You and rashadray got the last BE thread locked not me

 

[RashadRay11]

Lolz

 

[HooperScooper]

This is the thread for those that want to litter every thread on the basketball board with their anti-Big East rants. Let's hear why the Big East is so terrible. Let's hear why UConn would be better off in the American. Educate the rest of us.

@HooperScooper @bendm @RuffRuff @rashadray11

 

[nelsonmuntz]

So I give you guys a platform on the board where it is free to discuss CR, and ask you to bash away, and everyone chokes.

You just proved that the last two months of Big East bashing by you and the rest was just about trolling and derailing threads. Thank you for making my point.

 

[John]

You going to create a Big East leg humper thread on the conference realignment board too?

 

[John]

Simple answer:

Big East is much better than the American which is purgatory, but not the ideal long-term spot for UConn due to increasing revenue disparities across conferences and institutional structure (public FBS school)

And the fact that the Big East doesn’t sponsor the most important college sport of them all.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

And the fact that the Big East doesn’t sponsor the most important college sport of them all.

Let's hear the case for rejoining the American.

 

[John]

Let's hear the case for rejoining the American.

You want us to be Seton Hall North Campus, we heard you the first time.

 

[RashadRay11]

Let's hear the case for rejoining the American.

I have literally never seen you post one positive thing about UConn. You only care about the big east. You’re either a St. John’s alum or Val Ackerman.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

You want us to be Seton Hall North Campus, we heard you the first time.

You are the one that says UConn needs to be in a football conference. Do you think UConn has turned down P4 offers? That is not a rhetorical question. And if UConn has not turned down a P4 offer (spoiler alert, they haven't), what other option is there to be in a football conference other than the American?

 

[CTFAN4LIFE]

Let's hear the case for rejoining the American.

Let's not.

 

[John]

You are the one that says UConn needs to be in a football conference. Do you think UConn has turned down P4 offers? That is not a rhetorical question. And if UConn has not turned down a P4 offer (spoiler alert, they haven't), what other option is there to be in a football conference other than the American?

What’s your commission for every time you mention the American? Is that your side hustle Val? Might want to focus on your increasingly mid-major collection of member private schools.

 

[microfich]

Boards like this exist mostly to engage. Some treat that freedom as a way to initiate arguments so they can participate and then claim someone else started it. Anger 101. It's really getting old, NM. (NM), please.

 

[temery]

I think I'm going to reinstall the force ignore feature. Some of you asses are borderline stalking each other. Grow up and show a little self control.

 

[UConnTrumbull]

Should I wipe the snow off my car after tomorrow’s storm? Seeking advice. Please and thank you.

 

[uconnyankee]

This is the thread for those that want to litter every thread on the basketball board with their anti-Big East rants. Let's hear why the Big East is so terrible. Let's hear why UConn would be better off in the American. Educate the rest of us.

@HooperScooper @bendm @RuffRuff @rashadray11

Can you point to anyone that has seriously argued UConn should leave Big East for AAC?
Pretty weak tea there, even for you!

I think you did that because you know UConn going to ACC or Big 12 if offered is a no brainer. My argument starts with an incremental $40M media revenue.

Check mate!

 

[spsct]

OK, I'll bite since I never go to the basketball boards since I'm pretty much just a football fan.

Is this a real thing? Are there really people who are advocating moving everything to the American? That would be monumentally stupid and I fear for the future of our universe. Or is this a repository for straw man arguments that refuse to burn down?

For the record, I would not be opposed to a conference football only if the conference has a heartbeat and we got reasonable terms, but for now if the only sustainable option is BE/Independent and that's the best for us.

And before anyone starts clutching pearls I want all programs to succeed, even underwater basket weaving...

 

[Husky68]

You are the one that says UConn needs to be in a football conference. Do you think UConn has turned down P4 offers? That is not a rhetorical question. And if UConn has not turned down a P4 offer (spoiler alert, they haven't), what other option is there to be in a football conference other than the American?

You seem to intentionally miss the point on wanting to be in a P4 football conference vs. them wanting us. Why can't a UConn fan say I'd rather be in a P4 conference than the BE, your response is always well they don't want us so you must want to go to the American. This is a false restriction of choices, the missing choice is I'll stay and live with the BE (with its risk to future revenue if P4 football tv revenue keeps hogging the money) if I can't get into a P4 and hope independent football costs don't kill the athletic department before something changes (get into P4, basketball revenue picks up, independent football revenue picks up, etc.).

 

[B1GEast]

I'm not anti Big East, but I hope that UConn eventually gets into a bigger stable league.

The Big East has been good to us, but we're not Notre Dame, earning $30 million plus annually will lessen the burden on donors and should reduce state expenditures.

Your long term goal is stability. UConn has to be creative and aggressive, that puts a lot of pressure on the system.

Knowing what the annual revenue will be from a minimum standpoint makes everything else easier.

I love the Big East, but the reality is that the program has a higher ceiling in a stronger conference.

That's it, nothing more

 

[Smp7598]

I don’t think the Big East appreciates UConn for everything they have brought to the conference!

 

[Rufus]

ESPN's Joe Lunardi says the new Pac-12 will rival BIG EAST Conference | Zagsblog

BY ALEJANDRO LOPEZ The new Pac-12 is […]

www.zagsblog.com

 

[AZHuskiePop]

As far as the American , as an all sport conference , that shipped has sailed
As a football only with the same deal as Navy its beats making nothing except they don’t want us as a football only so the American is a moot point.
The only thing that’s bad about the Big East is we’re outsiders in a club of insiders
as a large public in a private league whose interest in performance at the highest level for some of the teams is suspect ,
The old Big Ten East had , Cuse , Pitt , West Va , Miami , VaTech , Rutgers , and later Louisville Cinncy ,and South Fla to balance the Catholics . We’re pretty much alone .
With the money the conference makes from basketball given the power conference media is primarily devoted to football should put on a close to equal footing in BB to all but the P2 . However it looks like some aren’t willing to pay the price to compete at he highest level .
Other than UConn and Creighton the performance and Bids in the NCAA recently have been a a disappoint As has league OC performance which determines bids. . I think our conference leadership is too content with the status quo and with that thinking we could become the A10 next cycle.
We’re allegedly a power basketball conference we should b be getting 5-6 teams in annually . Personally I like feel the top dogs in every conference we’re under compensated but improving the overall quality helps everyone .
Running the numbers even with football remaining independent we could substantially improve our revenue picture by moving most of our sports but primarily basketball to a P2 conference.
Before you think this is a sell out to football that association would also enhance our football program plus give us an infusion of cash .
Getting a reverse ND /ACC deal were they leveraged their football reputation to find a home for other sports . We’re leveraging out men’s and women’s BB program to enhance our football reputation.
I did have another out of the box idea
Given were worth more than any team in the league not only on the ratings strength of the men but our women’s team is comparable to most men’s team in our league in viewership numbers but we only get one equal share .
Uneven distribution would not be popular with the rest of the league even though UConn provides more content.
My suggestion to get around it would be a separate rider to the current conference deal to cover UConn football .
For $5 million a year . The media distribution stays even ( except NCAA credits) and UConn’s media deal is now a total of $15,000,000 UConn is happy and the privates have no complaint about unfairness .
Who knows you might even gain some Big East fans as football is a great sport for promotion.

 

[UConnTrumbull]

OK, I'll bite since I never go to the basketball boards since I'm pretty much just a football fan.

Is this a real thing? Are there really people who are advocating moving everything to the American? That would be monumentally stupid and I fear for the future of our universe. Or is this a repository for straw man arguments that refuse to burn down?

For the record, I would not be opposed to a conference football only if the conference has a heartbeat and we got reasonable terms, but for now if the only sustainable option is BE/Independent and that's the best for us.

And before anyone starts clutching pearls I want all programs to succeed, even underwater basket weaving...

No. No one is suggesting that. It’s a bit that Nelson keeps playing.

 

[ZooCougar]

OK, I'll bite since I never go to the basketball boards since I'm pretty much just a football fan.

Is this a real thing? Are there really people who are advocating moving everything to the American? That would be monumentally stupid and I fear for the future of our universe. Or is this a repository for straw man arguments that refuse to burn down?

For the record, I would not be opposed to a conference football only if the conference has a heartbeat and we got reasonable terms, but for now if the only sustainable option is BE/Independent and that's the best for us.

And before anyone starts clutching pearls I want all programs to succeed, even underwater basket weaving...

No. It’s strawman that he created.

 

[CTFAN4LIFE]

ESPN's Joe Lunardi says the new Pac-12 will rival BIG EAST Conference | Zagsblog

BY ALEJANDRO LOPEZ The new Pac-12 is […]

www.zagsblog.com

Maybe in a one-off year the Pac could have more bids than the Big East but other than that not buying it. Sorry Joe.

 

[KryHavok]

😮‍💨This argument has been had thousands of times over. The Big East was great growing up for BBall, and it was fairly solid in football until all the defections occurred. I hated seeing the Big East being referred to as the Big Least. But it's not the 90's or 00's anymore. I am grateful that the Big East threw us a lifeline when we left the AAC. At that time Villanova was effectively carrying the conference. We join, a few years later Hurley wins back-to-back titles and we're the one carrying the conference. Geographically it's a no brainer, but we are the outlier in the conference. I say as someone who is Catholic that being the only public university in what is effectively a Catholic conference doesn't mesh with the identity of the school. The Big East is our purgatory. I think Family Guy captured it best:

I consider it a stop gap, something to allow us to triage our conference realignment wounds and see what else is out there. Well, we obviously know the answer, the problem is that the most obvious panacea (ACC) won't invite us while the one that more recently toyed with us (Big 12) won't bring us in as we do not really align with their southwest identity. We have no where to go but the Big East, and as has been said countless times, that will not sustain us. We've seen the Big East NCAA tournament bids become reduced, and our financial windfall from TV contracts isn't optimized to help us grow our athletic department. That's the reality of being in the Big East. It will not sustain our aspirations of being with the other major state universities. So where to go? Well, unfortunately like Richard Gere said in An Officer and a Gentleman, we've "got nowhere else to go!", and that's the most frustrating thing of all. The American, we tried, and our men's BBall and football sucked...Cincinnati, Houston, and UCF thrived where we failed due to not taking football seriously enough. That said, going back to the American won't work. Sure Army, Temple, and Navy are near neighbors, but we aspire to be with "better" schools. Whether that comes across as arrogant or not, I don't care. We know who we want to date, and she's not returning our phone calls.