When do we see Bouk back?

[Abe1]

Ok. Here’s the deal with Bouknight:

he wants to play and I have no idea if anyone is advising him to sit but if so he is not listening to that.
He is practicing now, just not full contact. He wants to be back for the seton hall game but Hurley is intent on him having a few full contact practices first. Like it or not, Hurley doesn’t want to play anyone if they don’t have a few real practices first. Expect him back for Providence game.

You sound very confident and that’s cool but you are not accurate.....respectfully

 

[Umami Zen]

I get it for mojo reasons but Bouknight has zero worries about being a first round pick, it's about where he goes in the lottery.

Since you have Bouk as lottery pick(not necessarily disagreeing with you).Does his play the rest of the year effect that positioning.. Or. Is he good without stellar play at year end and Tournament time based on potential for NBA scouts??

Serious question.

 

[8893]

You sound very confident and that’s cool but you are not accurate.....respectfully

What part is not accurate? Respectfully.

 

[RayRay]

You sound very confident and that’s cool but you are not accurate.....respectfully

What part is not accurate? Respectfully.

I was thinking the same thing, why would you say this? Do you have evidence that he has not been accurate in the past? Serious question

 

[Chief00]

Ok. Here’s the deal with Bouknight:

he wants to play and I have no idea if anyone is advising him to sit but if so he is not listening to that.
He is practicing now, just not full contact. He wants to be back for the seton hall game but Hurley is intent on him having a few full contact practices first. Like it or not, Hurley doesn’t want to play anyone if they don’t have a few real practices first. Expect him back for Providence game.

That’s consistent with what Chief has been saying. James and his family are good people. Sure he’s your typical son or daughter college kid, like most of us were at that age. But, as with the incident his freshman year, Chief has his back. Always will. Don’t matter if they are a top 5 pick or a Nate Miles, that never is in doubt. Sure, Chief will call someone out, if they get back to the hotel at 3am before a noon game, but Jerome and Chief have patched that up as has Calhoun - and as adults we are tight.
Having said all that, there are advisors and @Kenny11 may be short selling them a little. I know some of them and they are good guys too, just doing what they think is in his best interest - the same thing when they steered him to UConn. When you think of the money on the table, to say just ignore that variable is silly. Chief’s position is for James not only to play but to come back his junior year. However, I won’t disrespect those who have his interest at heart but come to a different conclusion. This is not your normal season.

 

[Chief00]

I get it for mojo reasons but Bouknight has zero worries about being a first round pick, it's about where he goes in the lottery.

But that amounts to real money and intangibles like a team giving a really high pick playing time to prove they made the right choice. Again, Chief advocates that James should not only play out season but come back next year to do what’s in his best interest. Chief tells dudes NBA team don’t like guys who play mind games because the same dudes will play games with them. It’s best to play it straight to get the $’s. Chief knows some well intentioned advisors may disagree but where I sit I have seen over 30 years of numerous guys get good pay days in The League. Including, Rudy who wanted to come back after he changed his mind but couldn’t academically. Chief’s a business guy and I go by the numbers.

 

[HooperScooper]

You sound very confident and that’s cool but you are not accurate.....respectfully

@Kenny11 posted on here about the surgery being for bone spurs a couple days before it came out publicly. So I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt unless you tell us why you would know better. You're from NY so maybe you know Bouknight personally?

 

[UCFan1513]

That’s consistent with what Chief has been saying.

 

[formerlurker]

I have a theory that he really thinks he knows these people. In reality, he's a hangeron and says hello to them by name. They have no clue who he is so they just started responding "Hey, chief" as they pass by.

dumb dumb convinced himself they gave him a nickname.

 

[Abe1]

It doesn’t matter if the kid wants to play or not. It doesn’t matter if the coaches want the kid to play or not. He has to first be cleared to play by the Doctor. That 4-6 weeks time frame doesn’t just come from no where. And with a prospect of this caliber with what he has on the line u probably go the full 6 weeks. So if surgery was on the 12th of Jan. Then 6 weeks from that is the 23rd. Which is all likely hood is his clearance date. So I would expect him back anytime after that date. Most certainly not before.

 

[Umami Zen]

I was curious about 2020 NBA lottery pick salaries. Public Info. For my ease only did #1#5#10#15#20.Wanted to look at impact of lottery position vs considering another season of CBB to improve lottery position/dollars.
#1 A.Edwards Yr 1 $9,757,440/ 4Yr Total $44,274,137
#5 I.Okoro 6,400,920/ 29,083,315
#10 J.Smith 4,245,920/ 19,328,334
#15C.Anthony 3,285,120/ 15,887,971
#20P.Achiuwa 2,582,160/ 12,513,127

 

[businesslawyer]

Look — it is entirely rational to be more concerned about your professional future than it is winning college basketball games or having fun playing. It is also entirely rational to determine that you’ve set yourself up with enough money that playing for more, and risking getting less due to injury or performance, stops making sense. IF, and that’s a big if, that’s what Bouk is doing, he has every right to do it.

That having been said, you don’t achieve what he has achieved without desperately caring about competing and winning, and every NBA exec knows that at the end of the day a player who desperately wants to compete and win will be of a lot more value than one who is only worried about the green. Michael Jordan wasn’t the greatest ever because he protected his God given ability. He was the greatest ever because he combined that talent with a desperate desire to be the best on every single possession.

Not much more to be said. Book doesn’t owe anyone coming back, but not coming back will also be a message that GMs won’t forget down the road.

 

[Hurleyman216]

It doesn’t matter if the kid wants to play or not. It doesn’t matter if the coaches want the kid to play or not. He has to first be cleared to play by the Doctor. That 4-6 weeks time frame doesn’t just come from no where. And with a prospect of this caliber with what he has on the line u probably go the full 6 weeks. So if surgery was on the 12th of Jan. Then 6 weeks from that is the 23rd. Which is all likely hood is his clearance date. So I would expect him back anytime after that date. Most certainly not before.

Thanks for your speculation based on absolutely no inside information. You can go take your seat in the corner now.

 

[Tenspro2002]

Since you have Bouk as lottery pick(not necessarily disagreeing with you).Does his play the rest of the year effect that positioning.. Or. Is he good without stellar play at year end and Tournament time based on potential for NBA scouts??

Serious question.

Completely spitballing here, but I would guess at this point he's likely to go in the #8-12 range.

I don't think his ceiling is much higher, maybe #5 or so, because while extremely talented, he's still a merely conventionally-sized 2-guard.

His floor is probably #20-25 if he comes back looking ordinary, tentative, or gets nicked up again and develops a reputation as fragile.

On balance, he probably has more to lose than to gain by playing again.

 

[Umami Zen]

Look — it is entirely rational to be more concerned about your professional future than it is winning college basketball games or having fun playing. It is also entirely rational to determine that you’ve set yourself up with enough money that playing for more, and risking getting less due to injury or performance, stops making sense. IF, and that’s a big if, that’s what Bouk is doing, he has every right to do it.

That having been said, you don’t achieve what he has achieved without desperately caring about competing and winning, and every NBA exec knows that at the end of the day a player who desperately wants to compete and win will be of a lot more value than one who is only worried about the green. Michael Jordan wasn’t the greatest ever because he protected his God given ability. He was the greatest ever because he combined that talent with a desperate desire to be the best on every single possession.

Not much more to be said. Book doesn’t owe anyone coming back, but not coming back will also be a message that GMs won’t forget down the road.

Don't disagree with anything you've said.. Wanted to see the numbers myself (which I could have done privately) and thought the BY might be as curious as I was.

Not going to get into the go or stay situation. It's a crazy year with unprecedented choices for talented players. As to whether he should or shouldn't play again this year if able? I would hope that a prideful athlete would want to perform with his teammates and have making a Tournament run on his bucket list.. Just me.

IMO.I think Bouk wants the opportunity to make some noise in the Tournament with his guys.

A question I have about JB at the next level.. Can his body .. As it is currently constructed.. Sustain the pounding it is going to get in the NBA by the players who will be banging on him or could another year with Coach Mike erase that issue?? To me it has never been an issue of talent .Some will argue its better to sit on the bench making 3M/yr and working with trainers/SnC guys of the teams.It's his call .

 

[8893]

A question I have about JB at the next level.. Can his body .. As it is currently constructed.. Sustain the pounding it is going to get in the NBA by the players who will be banging on him or could another year with Coach Mike erase that issue?? To me it has never been an issue of talent .Some will argue its better to sit on the bench making 3M/yr and working with trainers/SnC guys of the teams.It's his call .

I don't think there is any question that his body would benefit from another year; nor is there any question that he will be drafted in the first round based on his potential irrespective.

Which is better for him long term? I have no idea.

 

[Abe1]

Thanks for your speculation based on absolutely no inside information. You can go take your seat in the corner now.

You don’t know who I am or who I know. Don’t know how much more clear I can be. You’re welcome!

 

[Hurleyman216]

You don’t know who I am or who I know. Don’t know how much more clear I can be. You’re welcome!

I can guarantee you I have more information on this subject than you’ll ever have access to. Stop spreading BS that you know nothing about. I have more than 1 inside connection with the program and the target as of right now is to have him try to go for 10-15 mins on 2/6 against Seton Hall. I don’t really care who you are or who you think you are. Shut your mouth if you don’t know what you’re talking about which in this case, you don’t.

 

[RayRay]

I can guarantee you I have more information on this subject than you’ll ever have access to. Stop spreading BS that you know nothing about. I have more than 1 inside connection with the program and the target as of right now is to have him try to go for 10-15 mins on 2/6 against Seton Hall. I don’t really care who you are or who you think you are. Shut your mouth if you don’t know what you’re talking about which in this case, you don’t.

10 Million likes. I have been saying all along, that I have a glass half full approach and that I was really hoping to see him back for this game. !!!!

 

[Get a Job]

I can guarantee you I have more information on this subject than you’ll ever have access to. Stop spreading BS that you know nothing about. I have more than 1 inside connection with the program and the target as of right now is to have him try to go for 10-15 mins on 2/6 against Seton Hall. I don’t really care who you are or who you think you are. Shut your mouth if you don’t know what you’re talking about which in this case, you don’t.

 

[Abe1]

I can guarantee you I have more information on this subject than you’ll ever have access to. Stop spreading BS that you know nothing about. I have more than 1 inside connection with the program and the target as of right now is to have him try to go for 10-15 mins on 2/6 against Seton Hall. I don’t really care who you are or who you think you are. Shut your mouth if you don’t know what you’re talking about which in this case, you don’t.

Hahahahahahha......I guarantee you that will not happen!!!!!

 

[87Xfer]

Do I smell a wager coming?

 

[Abe1]

Do I smell a wager coming?

Whatever he wants!!!

 

[Abe1]

I wonder what he will say when he doesn’t play on the 6th ?

 

[ucawn]

I can guarantee you I have more information on this subject than you’ll ever have access to. Stop spreading BS that you know nothing about. I have more than 1 inside connection with the program and the target as of right now is to have him try to go for 10-15 mins on 2/6 against Seton Hall. I don’t really care who you are or who you think you are. Shut your mouth if you don’t know what you’re talking about which in this case, you don’t.

This is not surprising. People on this board just try and get attention.