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OT: What changes are you and family making to your lifestyle due to coranavirus?

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Here's some info from the Worldometers site this morning:
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I’ve heard 99.9%
They are proceeding with a plasma test from patients who have recovered to inject health care workers.
Anyone who tell you we can’t resume a semblance of normalcy before we have a vaccine is woefully ignorant or agenda driven.

Good point. We still do not have a vaccine for AIDS. Yet that epidemic has been normalized. Large scale testing and treatment should also play a large role in bringing the country back.

What's normal will change in high risk communities. Nursing homes will different for sure.

In 2017, over 7,700 died every day in the USA (CDC). On the worst days the virus has killed under 2,000 people a day. And the virus probably has eaten into the normal death rate. As the virus death rate falls, the health care system will return to a much more normal state (that should be in weeks). The larger country should return in fits and starts. There probably will be flare ups but the scale of these should be tiny compared to the pandemic (unless it's your community).
 
Good point. We still do not have a vaccine for AIDS. Yet that epidemic has been normalized. Large scale testing and treatment should also play a large role in bringing the country back.

What's normal will change in high risk communities. Nursing homes will different for sure.

In 2017, over 7,700 died every day in the USA (CDC). On the worst days the virus has killed under 2,000 people a day. And the virus probably has eaten into the normal death rate. As the virus death rate falls, the health care system will return to a much more normal state (that should be in weeks). The larger country should return in fits and starts. There probably will be flare ups but the scale of these should be tiny compared to the pandemic (unless it's your community).
Total deaths are more easily counted than virus deaths. I really love your optimism but weeks to even minimal normalcy is hard to envision. Hopefully it doesn’t affect hoop season. The first sports to be played whenever that will be won’t have a live audience.
 
Total deaths are more easily counted than virus deaths. I really love your optimism but weeks to even minimal normalcy is hard to envision. Hopefully it doesn’t affect hoop season. The first sports to be played whenever that will be won’t have a live audience.
We're pretty much counting any death by a person with Coronavirus attributable to the virus. At some point it really is impossible to parse the culpit. But many of those taken by the virus would have passed in the normal course of events. We still in for some bad death days but the new cases are definitely moving in the right direction. I think there is real hope for a normal hoop season.
 
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Isn't that true for every living thing?
Yep. But I meant within meant within the month or year. Coronavirus is an opportunist that preys on the weakest of us.
 
Kids came out of their rooms a few minutes ago after a morning of remote high school and I asked if it's lunch time. They said nope and reminded me they have a 4 1/2 Easter weekend. They finished a half day today and have Fri/Mon off as well.
 
Yesterday was the third straight day where new cases were below the previous highest number. Could mean nothing. Could mean we’re running out of tests. Could mean we’re starting to see a positive trend. Could be due for a big spike. Something to keep an eye on.
Remember that this thing is predicted to be a bell curve, that's the curve that everyone was talking about. Even if we've hit the apogee, in theory it will take as long to get back to normalcy as it did to get this point.
 
Remember that this thing is predicted to be a bell curve, that's the curve that everyone was talking about. Even if we've hit the apogee, in theory it will take as long to get back to normalcy as it did to get this point.

So, things started ramping up mid to late March, by end of April we should be really heading downward and in about a month almost done.
 
Hopefully it doesn’t affect hoop season.
To be honest, I can't see how it won't. That is right at the start of the predicted second wave of this thing. I doubt that we will see a vaccine before 2021.
 
So, things started ramping up mid to late March, by end of April we should be really heading downward and in about a month almost done.
I'm just guessing obviously, but I think a month is best case scenario for phase II, which would be a phasing in of return to work with social distancing, isolation of hot spots with contact tracing.
 
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Remember that this thing is predicted to be a bell curve, that's the curve that everyone was talking about. Even if we've hit the apogee, in theory it will take as long to get back to normalcy as it did to get this point.
Yeah...doesn’t mean good things aren’t starting
 
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We're pretty much counting any death by a person with Coronavirus attributable to the virus. At some point it really is impossible to parse the culpit. But many of those taken by the virus would have passed in the normal course of events. We still in for some bad death days but the new cases are definitely moving in the right direction. I think there is real hope for a normal hoop season.
The thing is deaths not attributed to the virus are way up and we’re not testing all the corpses.
 
Here's some info from the Worlometers site this morning:
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If a married male had this type of historical sexual activity with his spouse that male would be happy. I'll be happy when the graph for the outbreak is like the timeline of sexual activity in a marriage.
 
The thing is deaths not attributed to the virus are way up and we’re not testing all the corpses.
This is true, though also consider some deaths attributed to the virus were heavily (if not more so) influenced by a pre-existing condition. Therefore, some unknown percentage of Covid-attributed deaths may not be a death caused directly by Covid.

All of the projections are highly speculative at this point because Covid data is so difficult to accumulate at a very reliable level.

The planning that *needs* to be occurring right now is setting up mass-testing (of Covid and antibodies) and contract tracing infrastructure. This will be key in preventing larger-scale outbreaks after containing the first phase.
 
I wonder if people are going to rush back into things like nothing happened when places open or if we’ll remain cautious. Will probably carry hand sanitizer for a while.
 
Kids came out of their rooms a few minutes ago after a morning of remote high school and I asked if it's lunch time. They said nope and reminded me they have a 4 1/2 Easter weekend. They finished a half day today and have Fri/Mon off as well.

We're on week 2 of spring break.

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I wonder if people are going to rush back into things like nothing happened when places open or if we’ll remain cautious. Will probably carry hand sanitizer for a while.
That is the million dollar question. Movie theaters, offices, retail stores, restaurants, etc., I really don't see tight indoor places returning to normalcy at least this year. People touching merchandise, people coughing, people bunched up at the checkout lines will invoke fear for a long time. Also we've been isolating and haven't heard the various personal stories of how people caught it (where, how and from who).

I'm not even sure what normal will be.
 
I wonder if people are going to rush back into things like nothing happened when places open or if we’ll remain cautious. Will probably carry hand sanitizer for a while.
I think we’ll see just about everything. There are plenty of people already acting like nothing is going on and are doing the bare minimum from a being cautious standpoint. I think people who have been very cautious will continue to do so.

I, like everyone else I am sure, am very tired of the social distancing but I’m just not quite ready to be heading to a packed stadium, get on an airplane, etc and I’m not quite sure when I will be ready. I know of people that would do any of that tomorrow if the situation were relaxed at all.
 
Saw a story yesterday that 51 South Koreans who were declared "recovered" have contracted it again. Or maybe the earlier tests were faulty and they had either mild cases or it just went dormant for a couple of weeks. They're simply not sure wth happened with those 51 at this point.
Differing views on whether they were really recovered or a false negative test

Paul Hunter, an infectious diseases professor at the University of East Anglia, told MailOnline that the cases were far more likely to be “reactivations” — or even just a sign of current testing being flawed.
“Personally, I think the most likely explanation is that the clearance samples were false negative,” Hunter told the site.

Professor Hunter highlighted that conventional coronavirus tests can give the wrong result 20 to 30 per cent of the time.

He believes the test the South Korean patients were given before being released from quarantine wrongly showed they had recovered, when they were actually were still infected.
 
We're on week 2 of spring break.

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I had that two weeks ago. March 13-24. My kids spring break was supposed to be next week, but when this hit it got moved up a month. Kids got two weeks off, teachers got one week off and used the second week to develop online classwork.

Best part? My son informed seniors are still planning a senior skip day. I thought that was a pretty ballsy and funny move for online schooling. I didn't bother to tell him they'd be better off waiting as long as possible so they could possibly do something fun outside.
 
I wonder if people are going to rush back into things like nothing happened when places open or if we’ll remain cautious. Will probably carry hand sanitizer for a while.
There will be no rushing back. The way things closed and allowed gatherings decreased will be done in reverse slowly. People that worked in cubicles will have to be spread out. Restaurants will have to limit capacity. More people that can will still work remotely. Cars and property will be cheaper.
 

That is the million dollar question. Movie theaters, offices, retail stores, restaurants, etc., I really don't see tight indoor places returning to normalcy at least this year. People touching merchandise, people coughing, people bunched up at the checkout lines will invoke fear for a long time. Also we've been isolating and haven't heard the various personal stories of how people caught it (where, how and from who).

I'm not even sure what normal will be.

That is an incredibly cool and effective display of the data. I suspect this will change consumption habits. People are going carry and store hand sanitizer for example. I suspect that dining habits will change. I have friends who like the energy of packed Manhattan restaurants (or suburban ones with the same vibe.) That may become less of a thing. If restaurants can't maintain the same number of tables a lot of smaller intimate places will fail. Movie theaters... I don't know. Probably more of the big comfy recliner types. What about broadway or regional theaters? More shopping online is a likelihood, though things were already heading that way.
 
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