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OT: What changes are you and family making to your lifestyle due to coranavirus?

People aren't driving; glut of cars.

Won't happen. We will see people wanting to live in single family homes, rather than crowded cities. We will see people wanting cars rather than mass transit. Driving time may decrease, but work from home is most likely to be a 2 days out of 5 situation for most people who can do it.
 
Clearly, this not going to be nearly as bad as projections in "most" of the country so the overreaction is working.
 
My wife was supposed to run first first 1/2 marathon this weekend, but since it is postponed to October, I mapped out a course in our neighborhood, made signs and meeting her with the car at key points of turning.

I'm passing the time reading Last Dance by John Feinstein. :)

Finished in 2:02! Not bad for a first 1/2 marathon and three glasses of wine last night!
 
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The March deaths for 2020 were not "way up." In reality, they were way down. The 253,000 in 2019 were high.

In March 2020 there were 193,000 deaths. About 34,000 less deaths than the average death in March for the past four years and way down from 2019's 253,000. The average number of deaths in the US for March over the four years prior to 2020 (2016 – 2019) is 227,000. This page has links to the sites they found the stats but you have to do your own work from now on.


This is completely misleading because the death rates didn't start peaking in some areas until very recently because we didn't slow this down when we had the chance. The March numbers say very little at this point.

What a shock that a media source with the line "We report the truth - and leave the Russia-Collusion fairy tale to the conspiracy media" would propagate a false talking point that misses the bigger picture altogether.
 
Clearly, this not going to be nearly as bad as projections in "most" of the country so the overreaction is working.
It’s funny how quickly the deaths went from 1-2 million to best case 200,000 to maybe 60,000. If we’re truly creating now at around 15000 I think 40-50,000. Does Vegas have lines?
 
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What's the evidence of this? Automotive deaths have to be way down. Crime is way way down. The doctors say that the hospitals, aside from COVID 19 cases, are empty. Nobody is going in to the hospital.
I know CCMC is furloughing everyone except ICUs basically.
 
It’s funny how quickly the deaths went from 1-2 million to best case 200,000 to maybe 60,000. If we’re truly creating now at around 15000 I think 40-50,000. Does Vegas have lines?

It's funny that our government has to lie to people for them to listen to them? If the government told us the truth and then no one listened and a million people died I'm sure you'd make the same post.
 
Like many other things in life that can be used as a political weapon, I believe the truth lies somewhere in the middle.

I believe that the current covid is a real threat to many Americans who present certain risk factors. In fact I believe that I might fall into this category due to my hypertension and certain other genetic “gifts”. The few times I have had the flu or the norovirus have been particularly challenging for me even though I am in my early 40’s now. I could very well be one of those stories of seemingly healthy father of two that passes too soon.

I believe many of those who are at most risk to covid are also at risk for other unrelated afflictions, including but not limited to seasonal flu.

I believe that the mandatory quarantine effectively mitigates the risks of many of these afflictions. Maybe that explains the lower mortality rates - the vulnerable people that would be passing away in years past have lessened their exposure to the triggers that could initiate such a slide.

I believe that many but not all of the people who would secumb to covid would also secumb to the things that don’t generate the same press.

I believe the greatest gift that some people possess, which we often chalkup to the luck of reaching old age, are properly functioning parts.

As such, I believe that the we (the world) are overreacting to the covid threat. We cannot keep the inevitable at bay forever, and we will destroy our economy and many lives in the effort of trying.

The pivot to a way of life that is more sustainable, starting with a gradual relaxation of restrictions is coming.

I think everyone with a say in these decisions know this, and what happens in between are the game of politics.
 
My wife was supposed to run first first 1/2 marathon this weekend, but since it is postponed to October, I mapped out a course in our neighborhood, made signs and meeting her with the car at key points of turning.

I'm passing the time reading Last Dance by John Feinstein. :)

She started around 9ish this morning and she's more than halfway done! I'll update times later on today.
Well done....but you could have accompanied her...at least on a bicycle..;)
 
This is completely misleading because the death rates didn't start peaking in some areas until very recently because we didn't slow this down when we had the chance. The March numbers say very little at this point.

What a shock that a media source with the line "We report the truth - and leave the Russia-Collusion fairy tale to the conspiracy media" would propagate a false talking point that misses the bigger picture altogether.

It's not misleading at all. It is simply matching apples to apples for the purpose of drawing a comparison and everything is labeled. The conversation was about whether the non-corona death rate had risen. It hasn't.

The March numbers are the March numbers. You are trying to make something political that is not political at all. In fact, I can not tell what you are trying to say at all.

Do you have a point?
 
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It's not misleading at all. It is simply matching apples to apples for the purpose of drawing a comparison and everything is labeled. The conversation was about whether the non-corona death rate had risen. It hasn't.

The March numbers are the March numbers. You are trying to make something political that is not political at all. In fact, I can not tell what you are trying to say at all.

Do you have a point?
I do have a point, thanks for asking. And that is using March numbers to prove the Coronavirus hasn't really affected the death rate in this country says very little because those numbers were early on and continued to grow exponentially when we had the chance to contain this. That's the very essence of what "flattening the curve" is all about. As a result, we're now days away from being the world leader in Coronavirus deaths.

I'm glad we're taking it seriously now because without social distancing, millions may well have died. But I find it sad that a lot of Americans are feeling good that we'll "only" have tens of thousands of avoidable deaths.
 
Connecticut:

Extension of all previously enacted closures, distancing, and safety measures through May 20

Also under today’s executive order, the deadlines for all closure, distancing, and safety measures enacted to mitigate the spread of COVID-19 that are contained within previously enacted executive orders are extended through at least May 20. This applies to the following provisions:

  • Executive Order No. 7D, Section 2, imposing limits on restaurant, bar, and private club operations
  • Executive Order No. 7D, Section 3, closing on-site operations at off-track betting facilities
  • Executive Order No. 7D, Section 4, closing operations at gyms, sports, fitness, and recreation facilities and movie theaters
  • Executive Order No. 7F, Section 1, closing large shopping malls
  • Executive Order No. 7F, Section 2, closing places of public amusement
  • Executive Order No. 7H, Section 1, imposing safety and distancing measures for workplaces and non-essential businesses
  • Executive Order No. 7N, Section 1, prohibiting social and recreational gatherings of more than five people
  • Executive Order No. 7N, Section 3, restricting retail operations
 
I do have a point, thanks for asking. And that is using March numbers to prove the Coronavirus hasn't really affected the death rate in this country says very little because those numbers were early on and continued to grow exponentially when we had the chance to contain this. That's the very essence of what "flattening the curve" is all about. As a result, we're now days away from being the world leader in Coronavirus deaths.

I'm glad we're taking it seriously now because without social distancing, millions may well have died. But I find it sad that a lot of Americans are feeling good that we'll "only" have tens of thousands of avoidable deaths.

No one said Coronavirus hasn't really affected the death rate. You are completely misunderstanding the conversation we were having. We were discussing non-coronavirus deaths.

BTW, the numbers I used were from April 9, 2020 and historic data.
 
What's the evidence of this? Automotive deaths have to be way down. Crime is way way down. The doctors say that the hospitals, aside from COVID 19 cases, are empty. Nobody is going in to the hospital.
All elective surgeries are postponed to later dates. My brother's scheduled February surgery was pushed to March, then April, and now into May.
 
I know it's a children's hospital, but wouldn't they keep it fully staffed is there actually is a bed shortage and use it for adults???
They are hemorrhaging money. All elective surgery delayed and kids aren’t really breaking bones being on tablets all day. Pediatric staff not necessarily trained for adults. Type of facility could be used for emergencies with other staffing I suppose.
 
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No one said Coronavirus hasn't really affected the death rate. You are completely misunderstanding the conversation we were having. We were discussing non-coronavirus deaths.

BTW, the numbers I used were from April 9, 2020 and historic data.

Fair enough, Palantine. My bad if that's your only point. I was thrown off by the subhead "the data is showing that this may be one great big mistake or hoax" in the story you referenced, which is total horse manure.

Be safe and keep washing those hands.;)
 
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They are hemorrhaging money. All elective surgery delayed and kids aren’t really breaking bones being on tablets all day. Pediatric staff not necessarily trained for adults. Type of facility could be used for emergencies with other staffing I suppose.
My nephew is an oncologist in private practice, but their offices are in the hospital...he was told 3 weeks ago that he might be needed to treat Covid patients if the regular staff was too overloaded. Not sure why a pediatric hospital would be any different. So now we have to bail out hospitals because they are too busy???
 
I know it's a children's hospital, but wouldn't they keep it fully staffed is there actually is a bed shortage and use it for adults???
The tough thing is “elective” is kind of rough. I am working on an infusion product for boys with Duchenne muscular dystrophy which is ultra rare. Some are done in hospitals once a week, some are done at home.
So the ones in hospitals got canceled. The home infusions have been a train wreck - mothers are freaking about letting nurses into the house. Some parents have made the nurses do the infusions on the front porch.
Keep in mind boys with this illness wind up having their lungs destroyed some day and this disease is terminal. So treatment is essential.
 
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My nephew is an oncologist in private practice, but their offices are in the hospital...he was told 3 weeks ago that he might be needed to treat Covid patients if the regular staff was too overloaded. Not sure why a pediatric hospital would be any different. So now we have to bail out hospitals because they are too busy???
It’s a children’s hospital and children aren’t getting sick. The staff is furloughed not blasted into Jupiter. They asked for volunteers to take adults. It’s a for profit business like anything else. No customers no money
 
It’s a children’s hospital and children aren’t getting sick. The staff is furloughed not blasted into Jupiter. They asked for volunteers to take adults. It’s a for profit business like anything else. No customers no money
Aren't children people? I understand its a specialty hospital..but isn't a hospital geared toward children better equipped to handle Covid than a tent in the middle of a park? How can we have this massive capacity shortage yet be furloughing medical staff?? Maybe there really isn't this capacity issue
 
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It’s a for profit business like anything else. No customers no money
Is this why hospitals are screaming for the Feds to supply all the equipment...so they don't have to pay? Even though they are getting paid for the care they provide.
 
Is this why hospitals are screaming for the Feds to supply all the equipment...so they don't have to pay? Even though they are getting paid for the care they provide.
They aren't getting paid.....yet.

They have to treat, submit the claims, then wait for payment. But they likely don't have the cash-flow to handle purchasing everything needed (most business don't, most businesses try to keep as little cash as is necessary).
 
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My nephew is an oncologist in private practice, but their offices are in the hospital...he was told 3 weeks ago that he might be needed to treat Covid patients if the regular staff was too overloaded. Not sure why a pediatric hospital would be any different. So now we have to bail out hospitals because they are too busy???

Hospitals aren’t busy. Critical care units are.

Many ERs across the country are actually less busy then normal (obviously the hotspot areas are an exception)

It always amazes/confuses me that people have a hard time understanding that health care in our country is a business.

My normally busy orthopedic practice has had to drastically cut our hours and unfortunately have had to lay off staff. It sucks—but unless we are seeing patients and doing surgeries we aren’t making any money and therefore can’t support our staff.
 
Is this why hospitals are screaming for the Feds to supply all the equipment...so they don't have to pay? Even though they are getting paid for the care they provide.

Hospitals are asking the federal government because of incredible amount of shortage on masks and equipment. Especially in the harder hit areas.

For example, if I were to reuse a mask 2 months ago after seeing one patient with the regular flu and using that same mask for another patient I would likely get reported and suspended.

Now, they are asking us to use the same mask for weeks at a time because of the shortage. Distributors do not have enough supply and the little supply they do have is being price gouged as all these hospital systems bid for them. A 50 cent mask is going for $4-5.

My practice can not even buy and mask/gloves/cleaning equipment for the forseable future cause our vendors just do not have them to provide.
 
I know it's a children's hospital, but wouldn't they keep it fully staffed is there actually is a bed shortage and use it for adults???
Aren't children people? I understand its a specialty hospital..but isn't a hospital geared toward children better equipped to handle Covid than a tent in the middle of a park? How can we have this massive capacity shortage yet be furloughing medical staff?? Maybe there really isn't this capacity issue

They reduced hours... they didn't make them go away and it could be scaled back up as demand returns. Not all impacted were direct caregivers.

>>All but a handful of the furloughed employees — about 14% of them physicians and nurses — are working a reduced work week from their homes. All the furloughed employees are expected to return to their regular posts, perhaps by early June, hospital officials said Tuesday.

Because the volume is down, there’s just not the work activity for many of our employees,” James E. Shmerling, president and chief executive officer at Connecticut Children’s, said. “We felt the safest and most prudent thing to do was ask those people who weren’t essential to maintain clinical and hospital operations to stay at home.”
The furloughs represent about 14% of Connecticut Children’s total workforce of about 2,800.


Shmerling said the furloughed physicians and nurses are often conducting “telemedicine” appointments through the computer. Others have been reassigned to other duties, he said.<<
 
Hospitals aren’t busy. Critical care units are.

Many ERs across the country are actually less busy then normal (obviously the hotspot areas are an exception)

It always amazes/confuses me that people have a hard time understanding that health care in our country is a business.

My normally busy orthopedic practice has had to drastically cut our hours and unfortunately have had to lay off staff. It sucks—but unless we are seeing patients and doing surgeries we aren’t making any money and therefore can’t support our staff.
First...let me say that Dr.'s deserve to be EXTREMELY well paid...the amount of time you guys put in is inspiring and your impact on society is incalculable.

I understand that health care is a business....I pay the premium for my company employees...so I'm VERY aware. I'm not talking about a private practice making choices. That's up to you. My business made choices too...I chose to keep my staff on for now and not furlough them.

My sis is an ER nurse in northern NJ and my other nephew is in law enforcement...so I hear plenty about what is happening on the front lines.

I'm talking about a hospital that can't pivot to provide an essential service. Isn't an unused hospital bed a better place to treat a critical patient than a tent in the park?? Can't a doc that specializes do general medicine during an emergency?

Am I mistaken or aren't there many non-profit hospitals? Maybe the issue is that we shouldn't have ANY for profit hospitals if they can't respond during a crisis.
 
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