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OT: What changes are you and family making to your lifestyle due to coranavirus?

methodology said:
Theres also an outside chance if the extreme did happen and it shuts down the country for year they freeze the entire economy like Denmark so things and people can still operate and live their daily lives
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That ain't gonna happen.
 
huskysupporter said:
I am not saying it is not going to be a tough recovery. I’m saying there will be a recovery. There will be a ton of measures taken to help those hit hardest, as there should be.

but saying the economy will never recover is not based on any measurable numbers.
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I see it being like our other bailouts, we'll pay out the major companies and they'll buy back stock. The workers and those who need it the most won't get nearly enough of the pie. POTUS is talking about bailing out the cruise industry which is insane. They aren't in the least bit essential, they don't pay US taxes and they're giant floating petri dishes to spread viruses.
 
superjohn said:
I see it being like our other bailouts, we'll pay out the major companies and they'll buy back stock. The workers and those who need it the most won't get nearly enough of the pie. POTUS is talking about bailing out the cruise industry which is insane. They aren't in the least bit essential, they don't pay US taxes and they're giant floating petri dishes to spread viruses.
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I couldn't enter another "like" so just reposted to say I wanted to post more "likes".

I'll add that I generally find people who take cruises (and I'll except Alaska, because how else you gonna see that?) as being the most intellectually stunted and uncurious people in existence.
 
Currently listening in on a conference call for school/town leaders with Lamont.
 
I got my hall pass today, allowing me to travel as an "essential worker".

It's basically an office memo that doesn't even have my name typed in and is basically only traceable to an employer, not an individual. I imagine that there are quite a few others with a similar document who will just make copies and hand out to all their friends and families. Not all that confident that this accomplishes much of anything.
 
It should be interesting to see if the high humidity in FL (predicted dew points in the 70's over the next week or so) affects the spread in the weeks following...
 
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Marbles90 said:
It should be interesting to see if the high humidity in FL (predicted dew points in the 70's over the next week or so) affects the spread in the weeks following...
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Is Florida different from other tropical regions where the temps and humidity have done nothing to affect the spread of the virus, like Brazil or Australia or Malaysia?
 
HooperScooper said:
I hope he's right also. If this is the case why are we causing trillions of dollars of damage to our economy? So many people who lose their jobs are going to be put in a difficult place.
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That “if” is a pretty important word in the hypothesis though.

It’s not a guarantee that things WILL recover that quickly. Hell, it’s not even a guarantee that we will see the spread slow or disappear, we lift the restrictions on us and start to return to normalcy, and that will be the last we ever hear about COVID-19 until at least the next potential pandemic.

For all the talk about the “Philly did this, St Louis did this” case study during the 1918 influenza pandemic, it’s worth noting that St Louis saw a resurgence in December after the quarantine was lifted in mid-November, and they had to reinstate their lockdown after thinking themselves in the clear.

It is a very plausible scenario that we see a summer lull, only to see an outbreak return in fall and winter. It is a very plausible scenario that we get the virus MOSTLY contained but are basically playing whack a mole for the next year or so, where this week it’s Denver and Kansas City on lockdown but next month it is Minneapolis and Dallas, and the month after that it’s New York and Seattle all over again.

There’s basically no way to predict with perfect prescience what will happen. But generally speaking, it’s better to be wrong in the direction of overreacting than the other way around. A perfect reaction to an emergency situation will be virtually indistinguishable from nothing happening at all.
 
We have a “scarcity of testing materials” despite our increased capacity to test.
 
kingdobbs said:
That “if” is a pretty important word in the hypothesis though.

It’s not a guarantee that things WILL recover that quickly. Hell, it’s not even a guarantee that we will see the spread slow or disappear, we lift the restrictions on us and start to return to normalcy, and that will be the last we ever hear about COVID-19 until at least the next potential pandemic.

For all the talk about the “Philly did this, St Louis did this” case study during the 1918 influenza pandemic, it’s worth noting that St Louis saw a resurgence in December after the quarantine was lifted in mid-November, and they had to reinstate their lockdown after thinking themselves in the clear.

It is a very plausible scenario that we see a summer lull, only to see an outbreak return in fall and winter. It is a very plausible scenario that we get the virus MOSTLY contained but are basically playing whack a mole for the next year or so, where this week it’s Denver and Kansas City on lockdown but next month it is Minneapolis and Dallas, and the month after that it’s New York and Seattle all over again.

There’s basically no way to predict with perfect prescience what will happen. But generally speaking, it’s better to be wrong in the direction of overreacting than the other way around. A perfect reaction to an emergency situation will be virtually indistinguishable from nothing happening at all.
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So I see a shelf life on this of another month or so. Not that the pandemic will “go away” but people’s sanity and wallets will demand normalcy by the end of April. By that point we will know if you had it/if you recovered. I can see us trickling back to our lives. Schools in CT announced out until at least 4/20 (nice). I honestly think it’s ridiculous to announce that date when there’s really no way that happens. However, at that point people will hopefully be cognizant of being safe and washing their damn hands.
 
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Dream Jobbed 2.0 said:
So I see a shelf life on this of another month or so. Not that the pandemic will “go away” but people’s sanity and wallets will demand normalcy by the end of April. By that point we will know if you had it/if you recovered. I can see us trickling back to our lives. Schools in CT announced out until at least 4/20 (nice). I honestly think it’s ridiculous to announce that date when there’s really no way that happens. However, at that point people will hopefully be cognizant of being safe and washing their damn hands.
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Public schools were already cancelled for the entire year
 
Dream Jobbed 2.0 said:
So I see a shelf life on this of another month or so. Not that the pandemic will “go away” but people’s sanity and wallets will demand normalcy by the end of April. By that point we will know if you had it/if you recovered. I can see us trickling back to our lives. Schools in CT announced out until at least 4/20 (nice). I honestly think it’s ridiculous to announce that date when there’s really no way that happens. However, at that point people will hopefully be cognizant of being safe and washing their damn hands.
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Well, yes and no.

I think we may be a month or so away from the need to relax the more extreme lock downs, but probably multiple months before we can have bigger social gatherings again, and it’s probably prudent for many distancing protocols to continue or to be enacted for a similar term (e.g. retail stores enacting and enforcing queues* or remaining delivery or curbside pickup only, or continuing their reduced “sanitize and shelf recovery” hours, nursing homes and hospitals limiting visitors more so than normally, and so forth), at least until a vaccine happens or we manage to achieve sufficient herd immunity.

Life probably isn’t going to be “pre-COVID normal” for a good long time though.

*Which in my opinion far too few stores, if any, have even bothered attempting such a thing, and as a person who works in a retail environment considered essential and which is remaining open during the current lockdown here in state, the “free for all” environment still being encouraged is anecdotally actively stressful to us who are working the floor. But that’s on the shoulders of the retailer mostly.
 
kingdobbs said:
Well, yes and no.

I think we may be a month or so away from the need to relax the more extreme lock downs, but probably multiple months before we can have bigger social gatherings again, and it’s probably prudent for many distancing protocols to continue or to be enacted for a similar term (e.g. retail stores enacting and enforcing queues* or remaining delivery or curbside pickup only, or continuing their reduced “sanitize and shelf recovery” hours, nursing homes and hospitals limiting visitors more so than normally, and so forth), at least until a vaccine happens or we manage to achieve sufficient herd immunity.

Life probably isn’t going to be “pre-COVID normal” for a good long time though.

*Which in my opinion far too few stores, if any, have even bothered attempting such a thing, and as a person who works in a retail environment considered essential and which is remaining open during the current lockdown here in state, the “free for all” environment still being encouraged is anecdotally actively stressful to us who are working the floor. But that’s on the shoulders of the retailer mostly.
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Yeah it’s absolutely insane they are letting 100s of people run around in stop and shop. Some places are queuing and only letting 20 people in a store at a time.
 
storrsroars said:
Is Florida different from other tropical regions where the temps and humidity have done nothing to affect the spread of the virus, like Brazil or Australia or Malaysia?
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I don’t know anything about those locations but I thought I saw the majority of Australia’s cases were from people returning from traveling to other locations. And you are sure the heat and humidity has done nothing to slow down spread in those locations? I thought the affects were still unknown at this point.
 
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The # of cases is gowing faster now in Louisiana than anywhere in the world. You had the Mardi Gras effect, Bourbon street partying, and Evangelicals are gonna evangelical...
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Dream Jobbed 2.0 said:
States still have jurisdiction and Lamont ain’t opening nothing . If he lifts bans on International flights that’d be a disaster. As far as Shutdowns go its state by state. Does a place with a place with scarce population density and few cases need the restrictions NYC needs right now? Probably not.
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You could be right. One issue for rural areas is they have hospitals that do not have the resources or capacity that urban ones do. They certainly do not have the money to outbid other places for PPE which is what the bigger medical institutions are having to do right now. The smaller places do not have the money to meet payroll either if it explodes. I was listening to NPR on Thursday and a rural area near Gunnison Colorado was going to hit the breaking point in short order. Opening up the public restrictions before we see a marked decline in infection numbers is a huge dice roll though.
 
Northbound said:
As I expressed earlier and then basically called a jack wagon - it is very possible that mid-summer will be when much is normalized. That mid-summer is probably 10-14 weeks (I get 10 weeks is mid-june and that's not mid-summer but you get the point). Isn't China at about 10 weeks from first case to opening things back up. Is that correct, who knows, but it's real info based on an informed scientist's best guess versus me pulling something out of my hind end. The caveat is always that they worse case scenario continually, but that was the realistic perspective I got from my person.

As everyone knows, this isn't about eradicating, it's about containment and being able to properly treat those infected without crashing the medical infrastructure. This is not coming from my belief - it's coming from somebody I'm close with that is in this deep and is advising the government. I think I'm blessed and cursed to know them because I maybe get more than I want from them.

Economy will be rubbish, but will recover. Government, a combination of State and Federal, will have to be on the hook for unemployment and healthcare until normalcy returns because without those assurances things have a real chance to devolve quickly. The idea that this can't happen is absurd, it can. Will the populace now have the fortitude to be unselfish and not go stir crazy, that remains to be seen, and I personally have my doubts as we've all become accustomed to immediate gratification and almost the exact opposite of self-sacrifice.

I'm supposed to start a new senior level gig Monday and they are still working in office as of last week and I just told them today - I'll be at home even if they aren't. My wife just got treatment for two rare forms of cancer less than a year ago and we're being extremely cautious.

Wacky times.

Sorry for the screed.
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You're not a jackwagon, man.

And good luck with the new gig.
 
Dream Jobbed 2.0 said:
States still have jurisdiction and Lamont ain’t opening nothing . If he lifts bans on International flights that’d be a disaster. As far as Shutdowns go its state by state. Does a place with a place with scarce population density and few cases need the restrictions NYC needs right now? Probably not.
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On the other hand, states with scarce population density can still see their health care infrastructure overwhelmed, and with far fewer cases.
 
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Dove said:
You're not a jackwagon, man.

And good luck with the new gig.
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Thanks for the well wishes.

Looks like we’ve may have a case in the family in nyc. 18yo nephew - fever, no taste or smell and can’t get a test. His fever has abated, but the no taste and smell is new.

If he has it, then mom and sis have a good chance of getting it. Its three people in a two bedroom place. His sister has a friend who has it, with a mother in the hospital in a ventilator.

No bueno.
 
Northbound said:
Thanks for the well wishes.

Looks like we’ve may have a case in the family in nyc. 18yo nephew - fever, no taste or smell and can’t get a test. His fever has abated, but the no taste and smell is new.

If he has it, then mom and sis have a good chance of getting it. Its three people in a two bedroom place. His sister has a friend who has it, with a mother in the hospital in a ventilator.

No bueno.
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This Coronavirus victim lost her sense of taste and smell.

Coronavirus made me DEAF: American woman, 20, who contracted Covid-19 in Italy says the virus made her lose her hearing as well as her sense of taste and smell
www.dailymail.co.uk

American woman, 20, with coronavirus says the virus made her go DEAF

Julia Buscaglia told in terrifying detail how she experienced differing symptoms. Julia is a student at the University of Buffalo; she moved to Florence in January.
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk
 
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