OT: What’s the biggest hardo thing you do out of principal?

[HuskyHawk]

Yeah because the person who loses their job at the register is qualified to fix and build those machines.

So you propose we halt human progress so people can work a cash register. I bet you’d give a different answer if the jobs were mining coal. How many millions of jobs has the internet killed? How many created? I would like more job training for those who lose their jobs, but people need to adapt.

 

[Dream Jobbed 2.0]

The CVS nearest to me just added self checkout. Normally I would hate that but they horribly understaff their cashiers anyway.

And at CVS I’m typically behind someone trying to use an expired coupon and they don’t get why 3 for 1 CVS brand cookie deal doesn’t work on chips ahoy

 

[storrsroars]

So you propose we halt human progress so people can work a cash register. I bet you’d give a different answer if the jobs were mining coal. How many millions of jobs has the internet killed? How many created? I would like more job training for those who lose their jobs, but people need to adapt.

cash register operators will be obsolete within a decade.
they'll need to learn how to repair hand scanners

 

[uconnell]

People who wait till they get the amount before filling out their whole check,instead of filling in everything except the amount,while waiting in a long line. If I have a lot of groceries and someone behind me has only a few I let them go ahead of me.

 

[HuskyHawk]

cash register operators will be obsolete within a decade.
they'll need to learn how to repair hand scanners

I support small business when I can. Most of them are ahead of the curve moving to the new rotating big ipad style cash registers. Payment increasingly via Apple and Android pay. Talked to a shop owner who just installed them. It lets her see exactly what every customer buys. So no they won't be obsolete. But being able to run those reports, evaluate what is selling, who is buying and analyze that data, that is the skill needed at the retail level in the future.

Our cafeteria at work used to have lines that were 5-10 minutes to check out. Now there is one register and several scanners that scan your food and charge you. Now there are no lines anymore, or very short lines at the one register. It's better for the customer.

 

[superjohn]

People who wait till they get the amount before filling out their whole check,instead of filling in everything except the amount,while waiting in a long line. If I have a lot of groceries and someone behind me has only a few I let them go ahead of me.

Where do you live where people are still writing checks for groceries?

 

[Husky25]

Where do you live where people are still writing checks for groceries?

Saw it at Big Y in Groton about a week and a half ago.

 

[CL82]

So you propose we halt human progress so people can work a cash register.

C'mon... If human progress is measured by the number of self-check registers we have, it may be time for a asteroid strike reboot.

 

[HuskyFich]

In 10 years self checkout will be close to obsolete too. Amazon will be making grocery deliveries at scale...embrace efficiency.

Imagine Waiting in line for 20 minutes behind cat ladies and coupon clippers because you think you’re too important to scan it yourself? Grow up you entitled POSs

My biggest pet peeve: people who come into a restaurant 5 minutes before close with no urgency and zero regard for human life outside of their selfish selves.

 

[Husky25]

Is pointing out the difference between "Hardo" and "pet peeve" principled hardo behavior?

 

[Dream Jobbed 2.0]

Is pointing out the difference between "Hardo" and "pet peeve" principled hardo behavior?

Lol this thread is weird

 

[storrsroars]

In 10 years self checkout will be close to obsolete too. Amazon will be making grocery deliveries at scale...embrace efficiency.

I hope the robots do a better job of picking meat and produce than the people currently employed at our big supermarket chain.

 

[Chin Diesel]

In 10 years self checkout will be close to obsolete too. Amazon will be making grocery deliveries at scale...embrace efficiency.

Imagine Waiting in line for 20 minutes behind cat ladies and coupon clippers because you think you’re too important to scan it yourself? Grow up you entitled POSs

My biggest pet peeve: people who come into a restaurant 5 minutes before close with no urgency and zero regard for human life outside of their selfish selves.

Amazon has already tested concepts where multiple cameras watch and record every item as you pull it off the shelf and it does live time updates of your total. You just walk out of store and you are already billed.

Plus, has the benefit of live time notification to restock local inventory or setup deliveries to the store to restock low quantity items.

 

[storrsroars]

Amazon has already tested concepts where multiple cameras watch and record every item as you pull it off the shelf and it does live time updates of your total. You just walk out of store and you are already billed.

Plus, has the benefit of live time notification to restock local inventory or setup deliveries to the store to restock low quantity items.

hopefully that puts an end to slobs who put an item in their cart only to dump it later four aisles over instead of putting it back.

 

[Huskybass]

C'mon... If human progress is measured by the number of self-check registers we have, it may be time for a asteroid strike reboot.

Self checkout is a breeze and if it gets me out of the store 5 minutes quicker, I am all for it. You can't really be arguing to save jobs that are completely unnecessary at this point.

 

[HuskyHawk]

C'mon... If human progress is measured by the number of self-check registers we have, it may be time for a asteroid strike reboot.

Automation generally is progress. This isn't an important example of it. But switchboard operators were replaced by machines. Robots fill the assembly line at auto plants (and most others). The internet has eliminated a lot of the publishing business. Amazon ended a lot of book stores. Toll takers have been replaced by license plate scanners and FastPass. The point is, in each case there is an anecdotal case of job losses that we can't be concerned about in the bigger scheme of things.

 

[CL82]

Self checkout is a breeze and if it gets me out of the store 5 minutes quicker, I am all for it. You can't really be arguing to save jobs that are completely unnecessary at this point.

Me? No. I just laugh at the concept that it reflects the pinnacle of human achievement.

 

[CL82]

Automation generally is progress. This isn't an important example of it. But switchboard operators were replaced by machines. Robots fill the assembly line at auto plants (and most others). The internet has eliminated a lot of the publishing business. Amazon ended a lot of book stores. Toll takers have been replaced by license plate scanners and FastPass. The point is, in each case there is an anecdotal case of job losses that we can't be concerned about in the bigger scheme of things.

But here in NJ we still have someone pump our gas for us.

(Agree with your larger point, but got a chuckle out of your hyperbole.)

 

[superjohn]

Automation generally is progress. This isn't an important example of it. But switchboard operators were replaced by machines. Robots fill the assembly line at auto plants (and most others). The internet has eliminated a lot of the publishing business. Amazon ended a lot of book stores. Toll takers have been replaced by license plate scanners and FastPass. The point is, in each case there is an anecdotal case of job losses that we can't be concerned about in the bigger scheme of things.

It's still mostly people on the auto plant assembly lines and that isn't changing any time soon.

 

[HuskyHawk]

But here in NJ we still have someone pump our gas for us.

(Agree with your larger point, but got a chuckle out of your hyperbole.)

And that's an interesting one. If I recall, they did that because gasoline fumes are a known carcinogen. So they assumed a dedicated pump employee could take steps to mitigate exposure. Of course they rarely do, so instead of a minor exposure unlikely to cause cancer, they are killing all those poor attendants. We have a town near me with the same rule.

 

[HuskyHawk]

It's still mostly people on the auto plant assembly lines and that isn't changing any time soon.

Nah. There are people, but doing different things.

 

[superjohn]

Nah. There are people, but doing different things.

At most auto plants it's people working alongside robots, it's been that way for a while and people aren't going anywhere.

 

[CL82]

And that's an interesting one. If I recall, they did that because gasoline fumes are a known carcinogen. So they assumed a dedicated pump employee could take steps to mitigate exposure. Of course they rarely do, so instead of a minor exposure unlikely to cause cancer, they are killing all those poor attendants. We have a town near me with the same rule.

I think the argument self-serve eliminated jobs. As a colleague of mine once said "I'm not worried about losing my job so long as NJ doesn't allow self-serve."

 

[Da_Aisijimo_Gou]

I support small business when I can. Most of them are ahead of the curve moving to the new rotating big ipad style cash registers. Payment increasingly via Apple and Android pay. Talked to a shop owner who just installed them. It lets her see exactly what every customer buys. So no they won't be obsolete. But being able to run those reports, evaluate what is selling, who is buying and analyze that data, that is the skill needed at the retail level in the future.

Such payment methods; sales, inventory, payment data analytics, etc are ahead of the curve in this country, but compared with advanced European and Asian markets and Australasia? Whether it’s good or not, cash, checks, and physical credit card dependencies are all dinosaurs, and even rotating payment tablets lag behind other markets’ mobile-payment capabilities.

 

[TheChamps990411]

So you propose we halt human progress so people can work a cash register.

Ahhhh, the internet. Where people tell you what you think.

 

[ClifSpliffy]

hopefully that puts an end to slobs who put an item in their cart only to dump it later four aisles over instead of putting it back.

hey! stop watching me! mind your own bitness. (just for that, im gonna buy a cheapo brand of ice cream, the stuff with xtra chemicals, and shove it under ur ride's backseat.)

 

[uconnfan68]

Ahhhh, the internet. Where people tell you what you think.

And how wrong you are!

 

[uconnyankee]

I will not go to the self check out at grocery stores. Hire humans you corporate pigs

I love this one as its becoming more and more commone for there to be 1 cashier and 10 self-checkouts.
Lately I've been telling the 'self checkout' cashier that I'm not very good at it and don't get paid enough to care that I only have a 60% scan rate.

 

[Get a Job]

It's going to be fascinating to see what happens over the next hundred years or so as automation continues to increase per capita productivity while actual human work dwindles to next to nothing (at least in many manufacturing, transportation and logistics sectors). I don't see any solution to the problem other than taxing the heck out of the producers and distributing it among the people who can't find work with a living wage. It's a delicate line to walk though, as too much taxation will the proliferation and technological advancement of automation, which will only prolong the problem.

Full disclosure: I am an automation engineer, so not only am I highly biased, but I am completely talking out of my Spartacus when it comes to economics and public policy.

 

[Get a Job]

It's going to be fascinating to see what happens over the next hundred years or so as automation continues to increase per capita productivity while actual human work dwindles to next to nothing (at least in many manufacturing, transportation and logistics sectors). I don't see any solution to the problem other than taxing the heck out of the producers and distributing it among the people who can't find work with a living wage. It's a delicate line to walk though, as too much taxation will the proliferation and technological advancement of automation, which will only prolong the problem.

Full disclosure: I am an automation engineer, so not only am I highly biased, but I am completely talking out of my when it comes to economics and public policy.

Why was "sc@Iito" auto-censored?! Damn you automation!!