The only player who I don't see a pretty noticeable positive difference in is Ms. Williams .... I don't think she's regressed but she definitely doesn't seem to have shown any improvement .... I couldn't agree more with the rest of your observations and I'm obviously thrilled ....
I think a lot of people feel that having a loss prior to the post season helps alleviate some pressure while others feel differently. Who knows how a group of 18 to 22 year old kids process stuff.
FWIW, Sammy is a Rutgers fan and long time Boneyarder, back to the old Big East days. He has no pony in this race
I didn't advocate for Oregon State to be #1, I just corrected your inaccurate statement. I don't think OSU should be #1. I will take exception to your position that Megan Walker would be the best player on the court in a game between OSU and UConn.
I agree with you as well...her defense is gradually progressing though!
Smith's analysis:Michelle Smith tweeted she's voting Oregon ST #1 due to Oregon ST's better schedule today. Mechelle Voepelle liked it, so I presume she's of the same mindset.
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Just putting it out there.
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getting my vote for No. 1. Three double-digits wins over ranked teams. Beat DePaul by 21. UConn beat them by 10, for lone win over ranked team. Obviously toughest part of Huskies sked to come. But Beavers have better resume today.
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These strength of schedule rankings seem way off to me. UConn has the 3rd highest? Really? Maybe from start to finish but through these first 9 games. I honestly don't know about this quandrant stuff. I think it should be more of a trine. Because quadrant 3 and 4 are basically all cupcakes to anyone not a cupcake. I would rather see, Trine 1 = 1-25, Trine 2 = 25-100, Trine 3 = 100 and above.I love to copy and paste stats from WarrenNolan.com...and even color code them for your viewing enjoyment. Through 10 games UConn has only played at their true home venues 3 times, 6 times away and yesterday's game at the "neutral" arena. The other 9 teams it's almost a 180 flip, most of their games were at home. Looking at the Q1 through Q4, yeah, UConn has not played a top 10 team yet but they also have not played a Q4 team either...that has to be worth something and only one Q3 team in these last ten games. So, what does this all mean, UConn only enjoyed 1 cupcake while the rest in this list feasted on them Q3 and Q4 teams.
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This is where the "eye test" comes in for many of us. We have parity in D1 WCBB. The conversation will begin a shift in February to who are the #1 seeds?
It feels that way probably because UConn has only played one top 25 team, but UConn's SOS is buoyed by the fact that they've played only one team outside the top 100 (#127 Dayton). Virtually all the other top teams have played multiple opponents outside the top 150, which can drag down the SOS rating severely.
UConn has also showing 4 quandrant 1's though because it goes all the way to top 50. And that is my point. Some teams are getting too much credit for not only playing against weak quadrant 1's and also too much credit that cupacakes are quadrant 2 and 3, instead of 4 when they are still in fact cupcakes either way.
Those quadrant designations aren't used to calculate SOS; they're only to define the columns of the team sheet. Strength of schedule per RPI (as shown on Nolan's site) is just a function of opponents' winning percentage and their opponents' WP.
I was just making a general statement that fit in with what he was saying.....I am not sure what you even mean by your statement.
Just trying to head off another bout of OSU fans’ indignantionat UConn fans
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Husky fans should be thankful that Creme & Hays continue to furnish UConn WBB with bulletin board material. Let’s hope the doubters persist right up to the National Championship game...I guess we are not #1.
Have at it boys (Creme and Hays).
Why Oregon State, not UConn, should be the No. 1 women's college basketball team
The truth is, this season lacks a no-brainer choice for No. 1. But Oregon State's resume is better than UConn's, and the Beavers should be on top.www.espn.com
I guess we are not #1.
Have at it boys (Creme and Hays).
Why Oregon State, not UConn, should be the No. 1 women's college basketball team
The truth is, this season lacks a no-brainer choice for No. 1. But Oregon State's resume is better than UConn's, and the Beavers should be on top.
What's worse is not only was the DePaul game AT Oregon State (vs. UConn AT DePaul), virtually ALL of the Beavers games were at home or a neutral site. Beating an overrated Miami who is not in the polls anymore does not and should not carry much weight. But then again, that would require, research, thought and logic on these writers. While many claim this is all irrelevant, actually, the narrative does matter in the consciousness of all the voters and will have an effect on the seeding come selection time. I will defer to @Plebe for his perspective on the RPI effect of the schedule visa vi the seeding as I am not as convinced that the committee uses complete logic on seeding or team selection as one would, could or should. I just know that if a head to head matchup were to occur with OSU, either there, here or neutral site, our scoring would outperform the Beavers. While Slocum once played well against us at Maryland, my only concern would be Tudor and her outside shot. Slocum is not the same player we saw. She's still good but not elite.
Thanks @eebmg for posting the ESPN article. I think Graham Hays said it best: " There's no right answer at the moment.". @DefenseBB, I agree with you that winning on the road is much more difficult. @DefenseBB, Destiny Slocum is playing at an elite level this season. I've been at every home game this season, and, Destiny has improved dramatically after 1-year in the OSU system (including Destiny's defense). I think it would be wonderful if OSU & UConn end up in the same bracket this season. No doubt, it would be a fantastic game should it come about that they face off in NCAA Playoffs.What's worse is not only was the DePaul game AT Oregon State (vs. UConn AT DePaul), virtually ALL of the Beavers games were at home or a neutral site. Beating an overrated Miami who is not in the polls anymore does not and should not carry much weight. But then again, that would require, research, thought and logic on these writers. While many claim this is all irrelevant, actually, the narrative does matter in the consciousness of all the voters and will have an effect on the seeding come selection time. I will defer to @Plebe for his perspective on the RPI effect of the schedule visa vi the seeding as I am not as convinced that the committee uses complete logic on seeding or team selection as one would, could or should. I just know that if a head to head matchup were to occur with OSU, either there, here or neutral site, our scoring would outperform the Beavers. While Slocum once played well against us at Maryland, my only concern would be Tudor and her outside shot. Slocum is not the same player we saw. She's still good but not elite.
Slocum is playing and shooting much better this season than she did during her first two years of college, including her frosh year at Maryland. She is a capable three-point shooter and was shooting better than 50/40/80 from the three distances prior to a poor shooting percentage in Oregon State's most recent game against BYU. Slocum is often positioned on a wing while Goodman runs the offense as the point guard, at least during the nonconference season to date.
What is making OSU difficult to guard this year, is Rueck often plays Goodman, Slocum, and Pivec at the point during the same game. Each of them present different challenges for the defense when playing the point. It is a real luxury for Rueck.
The debate over where both teams stand in late December will be rendered moot by whatever transpires in the next 10 weeks. OSU's and UConn's wins here in November and December aren't meaningless, but both have the vast bulk of their heavy lifting awaiting them in January and February.What's worse is not only was the DePaul game AT Oregon State (vs. UConn AT DePaul), virtually ALL of the Beavers games were at home or a neutral site. Beating an overrated Miami who is not in the polls anymore does not and should not carry much weight. But then again, that would require, research, thought and logic on these writers. While many claim this is all irrelevant, actually, the narrative does matter in the consciousness of all the voters and will have an effect on the seeding come selection time. I will defer to @Plebe for his perspective on the RPI effect of the schedule visa vi the seeding as I am not as convinced that the committee uses complete logic on seeding or team selection as one would, could or should. I just know that if a head to head matchup were to occur with OSU, either there, here or neutral site, our scoring would outperform the Beavers. While Slocum once played well against us at Maryland, my only concern would be Tudor and her outside shot. Slocum is not the same player we saw. She's still good but not elite.
I’ve often felt that Slocum’s challenges at MD and during her 1st year at OSU related to the fact that she was a natural shooting guard who was being asked to run the point. If Rueck has her playing off the ball, looking for opportunities to receive the ball in the flow of the offense and score, Slocum should be a much more efficient player.
