Welp, ACC stays together with a new agreement (LINK)

[Hondo 77]

BC is cooked

 

[huskymedic]

 

[CTFAN4LIFE]

Who here thinks UNC men's basketball will get their $7m moneysworth on the court via Hubert Davis at the helm? I don't. I'm doubtful about Belichick on the FB side, too. Surprised that women's BB at UNC isn't making more than their baseball.... UConn gets so much "return" on its spending/budget relative to on-court/on-field performance in the sports that matter most. Certainly more than UNC lately.

 

[ramses 2.0]

Who here thinks UNC men's basketball will get their $7m moneysworth on the court via Hubert Davis at the helm? I don't. I'm doubtful about Belichick on the FB side, too. Surprised that women's BB at UNC isn't making more than their baseball.... UConn gets so much "return" on its spending/budget relative to on-court/on-field performance in the sports that matter most. Certainly more than UNC lately.

Davis is on a year to year contract basically, he wins or he's gone. Belichick will be fine. UNC finally hired a coach that emphasizes evaluation & development who also happens to be a big name. Mack Brown got all the key factions on the same page & UNC has clear vision of what it wants from the football program. Belichick is putting a system in place that will likely be around long after he is gone

 

[ZooCougar]

The Belechick cult people are unreal.

 

[ramses 2.0]

The Belechick cult people are unreal.

Not a fan of Belichick nor would I have hired him but he is the type of coach UNC needs long term. We need proven evaluators & developer's of talent. We need the Dave Clawson type instead of a Lincoln Riley type

 

[CTFAN4LIFE]

Davis is on a year to year contract basically, he wins or he's gone. Belichick will be fine. UNC finally hired a coach that emphasizes evaluation & development who also happens to be a big name. Mack Brown got all the key factions on the same page & UNC has clear vision of what it wants from the football program. Belichick is putting a system in place that will likely be around long after he is gone

Agree on Davis, but the jury is out on Belichick and I say that as a lifelong Pats fan. Belichick's NFL winning percentage without Tom Brady is a lackluster .443. So, there's that and he has to prove his "militant/command and control" ways will work with 20 year olds. It'll be interesting.

 

[ramses 2.0]

Agree on Davis, but the jury is out on Belichick and I say that as a lifelong Pats fan. Belichick's NFL winning percentage without Tom Brady is a lackluster .443. So, there's that and he has to prove his "militant/command and control" ways will work with 20 year olds. It'll be interesting.

Don't need Brady in college football, Saban won several titles with average QB's at best. Not that UNC expects to win titles

 

[CTFAN4LIFE]

Don't need Brady in college football, Saban won several titles with average QB's at best. Not that UNC expects to win titles

Didn't say anything about needing Brady - point being that BB needed a HOF QB to become a top tier HC.

 

[ramses 2.0]

Didn't say anything about needing Brady - point being that BB needed a HOF QB to become a top tier HC.

Name a top tier coach in the NFL that wins on regular basis without a franchise type QB. I can't think of any at least in the modern era of salary cap & free agency.

 

[CTFAN4LIFE]

Name a top tier coach in the NFL that wins on regular basis without a franchise type QB. I can't think of any at least in the modern era of salary cap & free agency.

Sean McVay. Doug Pederson. Kyle Shanahan. You could argue 5 year spans of John Harbaugh and Ron Rivera.

 

[ramses 2.0]

Sean McVay. Doug Pederson. Kyle Shanahan. You could argue 5 year spans of John Harbaugh and Ron Rivera.

Pederson has been fired twice & only had 1 great season but he still had Wentz & Lawrence. McVay has Stafford & had Goth before that. Shanahan had Jimmy G & now has Purdie. Harbaugh had Flacco & now has Jackson. Rivera had Newton. So each one had a QB they felt were franchise type players, doesn't have to be a all time great like Brady

 

[CTFAN4LIFE]

Pederson has been fired twice & only had 1 great season but he still had Wentz & Lawrence. McVay has Stafford & had Goth before that. Shanahan had Jimmy G & now has Purdie. Harbaugh had Flacco & now has Jackson. Rivera had Newton. So each one had a QB they felt were franchise type players, doesn't have to be a all time great like Brady

You said franchise QB. Not sure how you define it, but in my mind it equates to someone in the top 10 QB's of their 7-10 year span. Of the guys you listed, I'll give ya Cam. The others, not so much. That's why I think the coaches I listed can line up against almost anybody in a 7-10 year span. Belichick had the incredible gift of having the single most impactful player in the history of the NFL for TWO DECADES.