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Welp, ACC stays together with a new agreement (LINK)

CL82 said:
Way to walk it back, buddy! No, you are on record as being the leading advocate of the Connecticut to the SEC rumors. You're going to have to find a way to live with that.
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Not a valid rumor until conspiracy kitten acknowledges it.
 
uchusky32 said:
Not a valid rumor until conspiracy kitten acknowledges it.
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Conspiracy Kitty says:
Seems credible to me
 
champs99and04 said:
I think the ACC is going to be the reason the ACC breaks up. The half of the conference that takes football seriously (Miami, Clemson, FSU, NC State, Louisville, VT, and maybe one or two others) is going to bolt for the Big 12 as soon as it can. The rest will disperse in whichever direction the wind blows them (for the Big East's sake, hopefully it brings some of them back to their roots).


I don't think the SEC has any desire to expand more than a state or two beyond its existing footprint, if at all. I know that might be hard to believe in light of the B1G's imperialist takeover of the west coast, but I think SEC fans have stronger spines than B1G fans. They genuinely want the SEC to consist of southern teams and don't care as much about the business side of things.

As a UConn football fan, I'd rather be in a league where we can compete, anyway. If we stay patient and play our cards right, we could end up back in the same league as BC, Cuse, Pitt, etc. Throw in another couple schools like Temple, USF, and maybe some combination of Wake, ECU, UNC, GT, UVA, and you have a conference that actually makes sense. Hell, maybe even UMass. Remaining isolated and estranged from any natural rivalries is not the way to revive college football in the northeast.
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The SEC finished with a high 7 programs ranked in 2024 and that didn't even include Auburn, Florida, Oklahoma, LSU, TAMU
Big Ten finished with 5 programs ranked which did not include Michigan, USC, Nebraska

Outside of Florida State and Clemson there are no football slam dunks anyway but I suppose these conferences will do what they can to increase $$$$. The fans will certainly tire of not winning conference championships and not being ranked. So to shake things up, yes, I see UConn as a valuable outside the box thinking addition to the SEC. Certainly for the Big Ten which is lagging in basketball. The Big Ten finished with just 2 ranked basketball teams! LOL!


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My region biased view of the ACC....(I always hated the non regional expansion).

The 9 member ACC 1982-2003 was a pretty good conference....If the ACC had only stopped in 2004 with the additions of Miami and VT...

The adding of BC, Syracuse,, Pitt, and Louisville, added post 2004, diluted the conference in terms of homogenous fandom, culture...And the ACC was already suffering a sort of idenity crisis regarding their split basketball/football cultures.

I do laud the SEC for being fairly steadfast in recognizing the value of their commonality and now playing on that strength to bringing along their basketball as well as being a football power.
 
A crazy idea...

A new bid offer from certain ACC schools....Put up the cost for us to leave the ACC and take our place.... $147 million no longer sounds ludicrous.

Clemson : "Hey USF... For our Exit Fee of $147 million in 2027, us and our partner, FSU, will call the vote...and veto any other invites."
 
billybud said:
A crazy idea...

A new bid offer from certain ACC schools....Put up the cost for us to leave the ACC and take our place.... $147 million no longer sounds ludicrous.

Clemson : "Hey USF... For our Exit Fee of $147 million in 2027, us and our partner, FSU, will call the vote...and veto any other invites."
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Not a crazy idea, but the ACC would have to offer a spot to the school that paid the buyout which isn't a given.
 
UConnJim said:
Not a crazy idea, but the ACC would have to offer a spot to the school that paid the buyout which isn't a given.
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True...but as long as FSU and Clemson are members of the conference, no team will be added without their approval...they have absolute veto rights.
 
Hoophound said:
I think that’s about standard isn’t it?
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Unequal revenue distribution isn't standard. FSU and Clemson bullied the ACC into it. If that is the basis for weighing ratings in determining revenue, distributions it discounts our inherent advantage in viewership for men's and women's basketball.
 
CL82 said:
That allocation between men's basketball and football ratings for revenue, sharingl makes the ACC less attractive to us
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I get where you're coming from but I'm not so sure about that. For the unequal revenue share distribution, UConn has one of the top basketball brands in the conference so UConn would benefit there. Football, UConn wouldn't really benefit at all in the beginning. So even though basketball would only account for 25%, UConn has a large financial interest there. Football is going to be split mostly by the big football brands. Programs like bcu, wake, virginia, pitt, smu, cal, syracuse would likely be in a worse situation than UConn. Sure 50/50 would be ideal but football has to be given a larger share. UConn gets a decent share of a smaller pie but some other programs are eating scraps regardless.
 
Kolumbo said:
I get where you're coming from but I'm not so sure about that. For the unequal revenue share distribution, UConn has one of the top basketball brands in the conference so UConn would benefit there. Football, UConn wouldn't really benefit at all in the beginning. So even though basketball would only account for 25%, UConn has a large financial interest there. Football is going to be split mostly by the big football brands. Programs like bcu, wake, virginia, pitt, smu, cal, syracuse would likely be in a worse situation than UConn. Sure 50/50 would be ideal but football has to be given a larger share. UConn gets a decent share of a smaller pie but some other programs are eating scraps regardless.
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Yeah, you're right other teams might be in an even worse position, but if you allocate revenue, so that basketball ratings only count for 25% of the total allocation, you've created a situation whereby it becomes very difficult for Connecticut to get what would have been a "full share" prior to unequal distribution.

Of course, that assumes that we even get an invitation. It's been elusive, to say the least, so far.
 
40% of ACC Revenue is equal distribution...it is the other 60% that is unequally split...based on viewership ...25% of that 60% will be BB, 75% FB....

UConn would get the 40% equal distribution part same as any ACC school (unless negotiated differently for entry) and UConn's basketball would do well in the distribution of the 25% basketball.
 
CL82 said:
Yeah, you're right other teams might be in an even worse position, but if you allocate revenue, so that basketball ratings only count for 25% of the total allocation, you've created a situation whereby it becomes very difficult for Connecticut to get what would have been a "full share" prior to unequal distribution.

Of course, that assumes that we even get an invitation. It's been elusive, to say the least, so far.
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Yeah, that's pretty much the idea though. It's baked in so that FSU & Clemson on average make much more than a full share. I'd bet maybe 5 or 6 programs would make above average payout, the other 12 or 13 below average. Not sure if unequal shares would be sustainable long term. The big dogs would eventually go P2 I would think.

FSU, Clemson, Miami, Ga Tech? Louisville would get above average football revenue. The rest below average.
 
Kolumbo said:
Yeah, that's pretty much the idea though. It's baked in so that FSU & Clemson on average make much more than a full share. I'd bet maybe 5 or 6 programs would make above average payout, the other 12 or 13 below average. Not sure if unequal shares would be sustainable long term. The big dogs would eventually go P2 I would think.

FSU, Clemson, Miami, Ga Tech? Louisville would get above average football revenue. The rest below average.
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The ratings are going to be driven by network, time slot, other schools on at same time, the opponent, and how successful the season has been. And, the ratings are going to be determined over a five year period. So, if your school is decent and you have a good group of opponents, you will have decent TV ratings. One caveat is the games have to be on an ESPN network, so if you play @Notre Dame on NBC, the ratings don't count.

For example, BC should have decent TV ratings in 2025 as they are playing Notre Dame, Clemson, Louisville, GT, Syracuse, Cal, SMU, Stanford, Pitt, UConn,... driven by the opponent.
 
jostar1 said:
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Those ten years projections are meaningless. I agree with the general theme of what he is saying, but there is no way to accurately project what each conference will make in their next media deals ---- realignment will happen between now and then, for example. Even if conference affiliations remain the same (highly unlikely), there is no way to know that the Big 12 will catch the ACC or that the SEC will surpass the B1G in revenue ten years from now.
 
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