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Welcome John Dunn: New OC

I'm not too sure about this, but may turn out o.k.

I'd be concerned if we hire an experienced coach who all he did was be an assistant to someone else.

Doesn't a successful manager of any enterprise hire assistant managers who they think can take over a company at a moments notice should an unexpected event happen to the manager? Would the Board of Directors expect some type of positive continuity to assure success? Wouldn't a manager want an assistant to offer viable recommendations before making a final decision?

Being an assistant at many different levels gives valuable learning experience if the listen to the right people.

I think this coach is ready to reach out on his own.....and be quite successful now that he has a chance.

We'' see!
 
Terrible hire and setback for the program. Clearly, RE was looking for a loyal yes man and not an independent offensive thinker. I can't believe AD Dave allowed RE to go down this path. So disappointed.
 
1. Someone please name a bad assistant coaching hire by RE here at UCONN?

2. Age is irrelevant - Dunn has been playing and been around football for at least 20 years - anyone who has had something part of their life isn't a neophyte at this.

In Randy I trust!
 
At the end of the day Edsall better be right on Dunn’s ability to coach QB’s...it’s not like he is inheriting Danny O as a Jr or Sr.
 
Rocktheworld said:
Honestly though if Pindell is our guy, don’t we think he is most dangerous from the gun? Quick easy reads and throws, much easier to use his legs with the option, etc
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Pindell won’t be the guy.....
 
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Skiblets said:
The upside is that we now have an extra $700k for hookers and blow to close out the signing period.. so we go that going for us..which is nice
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For them or us?
 
Skiblets said:
If you think that was Randy's criteria there may be no help for you..
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I don’t know if it’s wholly incorrect.

Edsall knows to get where he needs to go he needs good people AND he needs stability.

Hiring Josh McDaniel for 2018 as OC is a worthless hire for UConn. He gets them 3 wins in 2018 and they go shopping again.

I would do exactly what he’s done in this spot.

Give someone a stretch job and hope you get paid off twice. (Performance and stability). If the guy can do the job he can do it now.

I’d wager* all the money in @shizzle787 ’s mattress he said ‘This is a stretch’ to both #dunnlosin’ and Dave B.

*wagers will not be honored
 
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Pudge said:
Edsall has a track record.

Norries Wilson Rob Ambrose Joe Moorhead Rhett Lashlee. All really good - frankly

Not a TJ Weist or Verducci in the mix (I kid)

I think this guy HCRE knows what he’s doing. Plus add in a Todd Orlando ... and admit. He’s got a solid evaluation skill set on Coordinating coaches.
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Some things I read that also stood out to me:

JOHN FOX

“John is as good an offensive mind as I’ve been around,” said Fox. “He has a great feel for the run game as well as pass game. He has the ability to relate to and motivate players and is an outstanding coach with a bright future!”

NO HUDDLE -PLAYS FAST

“His philosophy of being a multiple, no huddle offense that ATTACKS using multiple tempos, personnel groupings and formations defines our vision offensively. His NFL experience will allow us to grow our passing game and also aid in the recruitment of prospective student-athletes.

RED ZONE SCORING

He also assisted in all red zone game-planning and helped lead a Maryland offense that finished ninth nationally in red zone scoring percentage.

RECRUITING

John is a proven recruiter and evaluator and has recruited in the areas where we will be recruiting heavily.

COMPUTER LITERACY - GAME PLANNING

At LSU, Dunn helped coach the offensive line and quarterbacks and ran meetings with those position groups. Dunn also had primary responsibility for the assimilation of the playbook and all computer drawings, as well as all practice scripts and game plans.
 
BlueDogs said:
Terrible hire and setback for the program. Clearly, RE was looking for a loyal yes man and not an independent offensive thinker. I can't believe AD Dave allowed RE to go down this path. So disappointed.
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It’s one thing to be disappointed in his lack of OC experience. But how you get to this point, which is based off nothing but fallacies in your head, is perplexing to say the least.
 
BlueDogs said:
Terrible hire and setback for the program. Clearly, RE was looking for a loyal yes man and not an independent offensive thinker. I can't believe AD Dave allowed RE to go down this path. So disappointed.
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I really dont understand. You know, a general rule is that as you get older and start developing a bit of a belly, you are not as attractive to good looking young women, but can still connect with a 30 year old 10 if you make enough money. Well, right now we are the 50 year old balding guy with a bit of a belly, and we have no money. Expectations have to be realistic. If Dunn can get us in shape and help us make a little more money, we can realistically go after coaches/players with more talent/proven records. Nothing in his background indicates he cant do this.
 
jazyj said:
Arizona Cardinals Defensive Coordinator, James Bettcher
“John is a highly intelligent, innovative, energetic, motivator! All of us coaches look around our profession and judge the character of the man, the measure of the coach on whether we would want our son to play for him. There is no doubt someday my son will play for Coach Dunn!!!”
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Not sure you can get a much better endorsement then that! Let's hope his son is a 5-star and Coach Dunn is still here when he is ready to play.
 
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Confident Carl said:
Some things I read that also stood out to me:

JOHN FOX

“John is as good an offensive mind as I’ve been around,” said Fox. “He has a great feel for the run game as well as pass game. He has the ability to relate to and motivate players and is an outstanding coach with a bright future!” defines our vision offensively. .
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Let’s teach Ol @Confident Carl the smell test...

Remember when John Fox was winning 40 games in 3 years in Denver?

His offensive coordinator was a 35 or so year old Adam Gase.

So John Fox was winning Super Bowls with a child OC - but UConn for $300k hired ‘as good as an offensive mind as he’s been around’.

Yeah it’s almost like those quotes don’t mean much dot dot dot
 
Confident Carl said:
Some things I read that also stood out to me:

JOHN FOX

“John is as good an offensive mind as I’ve been around,” said Fox. “He has a great feel for the run game as well as pass game. He has the ability to relate to and motivate players and is an outstanding coach with a bright future!”

NO HUDDLE -PLAYS FAST

“His philosophy of being a multiple, no huddle offense that ATTACKS using multiple tempos, personnel groupings and formations defines our vision offensively. His NFL experience will allow us to grow our passing game and also aid in the recruitment of prospective student-athletes.

RED ZONE SCORING

He also assisted in all red zone game-planning and helped lead a Maryland offense that finished ninth nationally in red zone scoring percentage.

RECRUITING

John is a proven recruiter and evaluator and has recruited in the areas where we will be recruiting heavily.

COMPUTER LITERACY - GAME PLANNING

At LSU, Dunn helped coach the offensive line and quarterbacks and ran meetings with those position groups. Dunn also had primary responsibility for the assimilation of the playbook and all computer drawings, as well as all practice scripts and game plans.
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He was an excellent recruiter at Maryland, that's good enough for me. We need smart FBS level players with strength, speed and size who can execute, a lot more than we need a trick play artist.
 
“His philosophy of being a multiple, no huddle offense that ATTACKS using multiple tempos, personnel groupings and formations defines our vision offensively,” Edsall said.

The part about this that is key is the multiple tempos, like when you are ahead in a game and your defense is a sieve there's no need to run a play every 10 seconds, in fact that philosophy may have cost us a game or two last year, you need to be able to adjust/coach to the situation. I'm not so sure that didn't cause some friction between Randy and Rhett last year, and if it did I'm 100% with Randy on this.

Also for everyone complaining, remember Edsall has quite a track record of hiring successful assistants - I wouldn't start doubting him now based on it's not "sexy" enough.
 
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whaler11 said:
I don’t know if it’s wholly incorrect.

Edsall knows to get where he needs to go he needs good people AND he needs stability.

Hiring Josh McDaniel for 2018 as OC is a worthless hire for UConn. He gets them 3 wins in 2018 and they go shopping again.

I would do exactly what he’s done in this spot.

Give someone a stretch job and hope you get paid off twice. (Performance and stability). If the guy can do the job he can do it now.

I’d wager* all the money in @shizzle787 ’s mattress he said ‘This is a stretch’ to both #dunnlosin’ and Dave B.

*wagers will not be honored
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Agree with you but original premise was that Randy was looking for someone to control...don't agree with that at all
 
jimva said:
I really dont understand. You know, a general rule is that as you get older and start developing a bit of a belly, you are not as attractive to good looking young women, but can still connect with a 30 year old 10 if you make enough money. Well, right now we are the 50 year old balding guy with a bit of a belly, and we have no money. Expectations have to be realistic. If Dunn can get us in shape and help us make a little more money, we can realistically go after coaches/players with more talent/proven records. Nothing in his background indicates he cant do this.
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Hell, go for the divorced 45 year old "10", and she'll pay for dinner AND bring you back to her place.
 
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Jimmy Serrano said:
He has plenty of recruiting experience it’s the lack of play calling and OC experience that’s a downer for me. All we can do is hope he works out but this will only excite the Confident Carl’s of the world who would crap rainbows if we hired Kim Jung Un as OC.
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Oh..But what offense he could bring us.
 
whaler11 said:
Let’s teach Ol @Confident Carl the smell test...

Remember when John Fox was winning 40 games in 3 years in Denver?

His offensive coordinator was a 35 or so year old Adam Gase.

So John Fox was winning Super Bowls with a child OC - but UConn for $300k hired ‘as good as an offensive mind as he’s been around’.

Yeah it’s almost like those quotes don’t mean much dot dot dot
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Yeah you're right, a glowing third party endorsement from a man who coached in two Super Bowls and served 18 years as an NFL head coach is meaningless. Thanks for schooling me!
 
Confident Carl said:
Yeah you're right, a glowing third party endorsement from a man who coached in two Super Bowls and served 18 years as an NFL head coach is meaningless. Thanks for schooling me!
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True thinking you could learn something was clearly incorrect.

When given the chance to comment on someone and clearly lie... it almost makes one wonder if it’s even legitimate praise. Well those with a clue.

Back to providing your posts with the derision they deserve.
 
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For better or for worse, at the end of next season I think we will all be saying John, dunn it! I'm very hopeful it will be for the better.
 
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