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BYU 55 Arizona St 44

ASU stats: 29% FG%, 13% 3PT%, 42% FT%,
No ASU players in double figures. Harding (nee Johnson) led BYU w/ 25.
 

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Is ASU not very good? Is BYU really good?
BYU is usually solid, and they brought back most of their team from last year.

However they have really struggled against Pac 12 teams for years. Probably play 3-4 per year, and I think this is only their 2nd win in the last 5 years or so.

I thought ASU might bounce back from last year. Now I'm thinking not so much.
 
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I was thinking about the thread dealing with ranking of pac-12 coaches as I suffered through the BYU ASU game. CTT has had a long successful career with a philosophy of defense first with half court offense. Last year was an anomaly given covid and other disruptions. However this year it certainly appears that the players she selected are not fully compatible with her philosophy.

Scoring trend this year

71, 55(in regulation 59 after OT), 44
So the disaster that was ASU offense last year looks like it may be the same or even worse.

Defense trend

41, 55(69after OT), 55

The Lady Devils looked tired. Very tired in the second half of the OT loss to Minnesota and very tired throughout the second half of today's game.

Taya Hanson the returning 3-point shooter has received significant defensive attention often double teamed and has not been able to respond.

The only bright spot is grad transfer from Rutgers Giles. She plays with tremendous energy and is a very strong defensive presence and rebounder. Unfortunately she has a tendency to try to put the ball on the floor and has become a bit of a turnover machine.

I can't think of a time when I've been less optimistic at this stage of the season. In today's game at one point BYU had two freshman guards on the court and they actually extended their lead.

My pain may continue tonight as the Lady Lumberjacks try to score their first win of the season at home against UNLV with a 6pm MST tip. Only on ESPN+
 
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Reminder: Per rules of the board owner, no "game threads" (commenting about games in progress) are allowed. We can use this thread to call attention to upcoming games or discuss games once completed. For "in-game" comments, use the Chat. Feel free to leave a post here to invite others to join you in Chat.

Rankings are noted according to Boneyard preseason poll. Most notable matchups are highlighted in bold.

Please chime in with any corrections or additions.


Wed., Nov. 17

Toledo at Dayton (11a, ESPN+)​
Southeast Missouri State at #22 Texas (12p, LHN)​
Arizona State at BYU (1p, BYUtv)​
Appalachian State at North Carolina (6p, ACCNX)​
Clemson at #1 South Carolina (7p, SECN)​
UT Martin at #6 Louisville (7p, ACCNX)​
Bowling Green at #23 Ohio State (7p, BTN+)​
#19 Georgia Tech at East Tennessee State (7p, ESPN+)​
Coppin State at #25 Virginia Tech (7p, ESPN+)​
UCF at Virginia (7p, ACCNX)​
Southern at #8 Iowa (7:30p, BTN+)​
Missouri State at Oklahoma State (7:30p)​
Creighton at Nebraska (8p, BTN+)​
Cal Baptist at #15 Oregon State (10p, Oregon State Live Stream)​


Thu., Nov. 18

UNC Wilmington at #4 Maryland (6p, BTN+)​
#12 Iowa State at Drake (7p, ESPN+)
Jacksonville at #21 Florida State (7p, ACCNX)​
James Madison at Liberty (7p, ESPN+)​
LSU at Louisiana (7p, ESPN+)​
Tennessee Tech at Vanderbilt (7p, SECN)​
Montana State at South Dakota State (7p, ESPN+)​
Fordham at Notre Dame (7p, ACCNX)​
Stephen F. Austin at #20 Texas A&M (8p, SECN+)
Cal State Northridge at #13 UCLA (10p, UCLA Live Stream)​

Fri., Nov. 19

FGCU at Manhattan (11a, ESPN3)​
Kennesaw State at #24 West Virginia (12p, ESPN+)​
Kansas State at #5 NC State (7p, ACCNX)​
Harvard at Rutgers (7p, BtN+)​
Arkansas at Arkansas State (8p, ESPN+)​
Marist at #14 Arizona (8:30p, Arizona Live Stream)​
Marquette at Colorado (9p)​
Cincinnati at Utah (9p, Utah Live Stream)​


Sat., Nov. 20

Minnesota vs. #3 UConn (12p, FloHoops). Battle 4 Atlantis.
Fairfield vs. FGCU (12p, ESPN3)​
#11 Michigan at Central Michigan (1p, ESPN+)​
Princeton at Rhode Island (1p, ESPN+)​
Syracuse vs. South Florida (2:30p, FloHoops). Battle 4 Atlantis.
Cal State Bakersfield at #15 Oregon State (3p, Oregon State Live Stream)​
#7 Indiana at Quinnipiac (4p, ESPN3)​
Boise State at BYU (4p, BYUtv)​
#6 Louisville at Washington (5p, Washington Live Stream)​
Oklahoma vs. #9 Oregon (5p, FloHoops). Battle 4 Atlantis.​
Missouri State at USC (5p, USC Live Stream)​
Buffalo vs. #1 South Carolina (7:30p, FloHoops) Battle 4 Atlantis.


Sun., Nov. 21

Battle 4 Atlantis first semifinal (12p, FloHoops)​
#10 Baylor at #4 Maryland (1p, BTN)​
Southern at #12 Iowa State (1p, ESPN+)​
#22 Texas at #17 Tennessee (1p, ESPN)​
Winthrop at #16 Kentucky (2p, SECN+)​
Grambling at #21 Florida State (2p, ACCNX)​
Radford at #24 West Virginia (2p, ESPN+)​
Belmont at UCF (2p, ESPN+)​
Alabama State at #17 Georgia (2p, SECN+)​
Alabama at Duke (2p, ESPN+)​
Battle 4 Atlantis second semifinal (2:30p, FloHoops)​
Drake at #8 Iowa (3p, BTN+)​
#2 Stanford at Gonzaga (4p, SWX Live)​
Auburn at #19 Georgia Tech (4p, ACCN)​
North Carolina at TCU (4:30p, ESPN+)​
Bryant at Notre Dame (5p, ACCNX)​
Virginia at #13 UCLA (6p, P12N)​
Northwestern at DePaul (6p, FloHoops)​
South Dakota State at Creighton (8p, FloHoops)​
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Games played:

Mon., Nov. 15

Southern at Marquette (1p, FloHoops)
Wofford vs. Florida (4:30p, YouTube)
South Florida at #17 Tennessee (6:30p, SECN+)
South Dakota at Drake (7p, ESPN+)
South Dakota State at #12 Iowa State (7:30p, ESPN+)
Southeast Missouri State at Stephen F. Austin (7:30p, ESPN+)
Vanderbilt at MTSU (7:30p, ESPN+)
New Orleans at #10 Baylor (8p, ESPN+)
DePaul at #20 Texas A&M (8p, SECN+)
Texas Southern at #14 Arizona (8:30p, Arizona Live Stream)

Tues., Nov. 16

Ohio at Cincinnati (11a, ESPN+)
Stony Brook at Rutgers (11a, BTN+)
UMass Lowell at #11 Michigan (6p, BTN+)
Mt. St. Mary’s at #4 Maryland (7p, BTN+)
Bellarmine at #6 Louisville (7p, ACCNX)
Norfolk State at #7 Indiana (7p, BTN+)
St. Francis at #24 West Virginia (7p, ESPN+)
Portland at #2 Stanford (10p, P12N)


Marist completes their trip to the desert on Nov 21 at 1pm MST against the Sun Devils.
ASU Live Stream
 
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Yeah, I'm a little wary of ASU given their all time defensive performances in the past, but they just don't seem the same as usual this year.

The interesting statistic of note that I've heard this evening is that with Haley Jones' triple double, the Pac-12 has had a player produce a triple double in each of the past 11 seasons including this season. That's supposedly the longest active streak among all conferences.

Out of curiosity, I went back and found who did it each year. In parenthesis is the number of triple doubles they had that year. While triple doubles don't necessarily equate to championships, it's still a remarkable feat for a conference to continually have them.

2021-2022 Season: Haley Jones, Stanford
2020-2021 Season: Charisma Osbourne UCLA (1)
2019-2021 Season: Sabrina Ionescu, Oregon (8),
2018-2019 Season: Sabrina Ionescu, Oregon (8),
2017-2018 Season: Sabrina Ionescu, Oregon (6), Jordin Canada, UCLA (1)
2016-2017 Season: Sabrina Ionescu, Oregon (4), Jordin Canada, UCLA (1), Sydney Weise, Oregon State (1) Chantel Osahor, Washington (1)
2015-2016 Season: Gabby Green, California (1)
2014-2015 Season: Lexy Kresl, Colorado (1), Brittany Boyd, California (2)
2013-2014 Season: Ruth Hamblin, Oregon State (1), Brittany Boyd, California (1)
2012-2013 Season: Davellyn Whyte, Arizona (1)
2011-2012 Season: Markel Walker, UCLA (1), Chucky Jeffery, Colorado (1)

As a fun comparison, I went back and looked at the Big 10 and SEC.

2021-2022 Season: Makenna Marisa, Penn State (1)
2020-2021 Season: Grace Berger, Indiana (3), Caitlin Clark, Iowa (1), Arella Guirantes, Rutgers (1)
2019-2020 Season: None
2018-2019 Season: None


SEC:

2020-2021 Season: Aliyah Boston, South Carolina (1), Tamari Key, Tennessee (1),
2019-2020 Season: Aliyah Boston, South Carolina (1)
2018-2019 Season: None
 
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South Carolina up only 1 over sub mediocre Clemson after 1 quarter. Looks like Dawn will have to light a fire under SC.
Refs taking Clemson's bigs out of the game. Early in 2nd q. and all of Clemson's bigs have multiple fouls on them.
Lots of fouls on both teams now.
 

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Clark well on her way to her next triple double--9/4/5 after Q1.
 

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Virginia down by 14 to UCF at home, 34 - 20 at the half. Virginia is bad.
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South Carolina 76-45 over Clemson.

Amihere getting extended minutes at PG was the most interesting thing about this one.
 

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My pain may continue tonight as the Lady Lumberjacks try to score their first win of the season at home against UNLV with a 6pm MST tip. Only on ESPN+
Nice bounce back. Hammered UNLV. Rasheed with a big game it looks like.
 

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Oregon State vs. Cal Baptist starts here in a few minutes (see link at top of thread for live stream). Some folks are in Chat room for anyone who'd like to "group watch".

Does anyone know if CBU's post player is available for this game? I think @ochoopsfan said she was questionable.
 
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Nice bounce back. Hammered UNLV. Rasheed with a big game it looks like.
Just got back from the game. The Jacks rained threes 7 of 15. Point guard Reagan Schenck had 11 assists and the team looked really strong on both sides of the court.
 
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It's always really curious to me when teams start against tougher competition. On the one hand, I think that the tough games early can raise the level of the team so that when they play teams of the same caliber they're coming out guns blazing. The flip side of that can be that the team loses confidence early. There's a fine line to walk with scheduling.
 

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Oregon State vs. Cal Baptist starts here in a few minutes (see link at top of thread for live stream). Some folks are in Chat room for anyone who'd like to "group watch".

Does anyone know if CBU's post player is available for this game? I think @ochoopsfan said she was questionable.
She played a few minutes and doesn't look 100%yet.
 

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I have to say I was a little sad that @Plebe did not include the Minnesota-American U game on this week's schedule. I mean, it's not like Minnesota is the next opponent for school name University of Connecticut and keeping an eye on such a score might be beneficial to any fans of that UConn team, if only we were on a UConn forum...Oh wait....
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Poor IUPUI who likely is a frontrunner for the Horizon had to forfeit a game to Cleveland State due to Covid-19 issues. They'll start off in the Horizon 0-1, and it'll be interesting to see how many league races COVID 19 impacts this season.
 

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Poor IUPUI who likely is a frontrunner for the Horizon had to forfeit a game to Cleveland State due to Covid-19 issues. They'll start off in the Horizon 0-1, and it'll be interesting to see how many league races COVID 19 impacts this season.
Wright St. vs. Milwaukee and Northern Kentucky vs. Green Bay also scheduled today. Kind of a crazy early start for Horizon conference play.
 
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Wright St. vs. Milwaukee and Northern Kentucky vs. Green Bay also scheduled today. Kind of a crazy early start for Horizon conference play.

Nobody tell him that Notre Dame is all alone at the top of the ACC with a 1-0 conference record. :eek:
 

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