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Friarfan23 said:
What’s everyone mad about? We are still #4 in kenpom! Relax!
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More like 12-15 after last night.

If they don’t get their act together against Creighton, it could be worse than that.
 
I fully expect someone on the BY to compile the 2-3 minutes of Clingan/Sanogo together so we can all analyze.
 
djct1999 said:
and with AJ in foul trouble all game and out for the last 16 of first half, who was Hurley supposed to put on him? Rather than blame Hurley, why not ask where the hell was the help side defense?
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This. Adama caught flat-footed multiple times last night near the basket, as he just stood there and watched Hopkins blow by or blow through Karaban.
 
socal613ws said:
top recruits let this team down, again I've never been a believer in Hurley. I expect another 1st or 2nd rd exit in tournament
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Your other posts are consistent with this overall view. I find that helpful, and the downvotes your comment received showed a similar clarity.
 
SaeHusky said:
Joey C is in a little shooting slump it happens. Unfortunately a lot of the players are in a shooting slump at the same time.
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Our offensive features too much pass first or pass out offensive. Other teams are driving to the rim, picking up a foul and feasting at the line. We don't seem to have the Martin type player that can drive and finish. Who is it????

On the defensive side, we might have to play more zone to prevent the drives or slow them down. Give up the three, now we give up all three options. Shut two of the three scoring options down, especially the high reward drives and easy high percentage foul shots. Our opponents seem much better at the foul line than us recently. Something is wrong here! One of our best foul shooting guards, Newton doesn't drive enough in recent games.















oesn't drive enough against these better teams.
 
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CTBasketball said:
I fully expect someone on the BY to compile the 2-3 minutes of Clingan/Sanogo together so we can all analyze.
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Also, I want to see a compilation of all the 50-50 balls Providence beat us to, both teams fouls shots, and all the wide open 3s we missed so we can really further analyze what a bad coach Hurley is.
 
djct1999 said:
This is such a tired narrative. We went 14-0 and I suspect Hurley made no in game adjustments during that streak as well? Sure, we are experiencing some growing pains. But Hurley made plenty of adjustments. Its amazing how quickly this board turns at any sign of adversity. Sad, actually. This team was never going 32-0. So we lost 2 consecutive games on the road against two of the most experienced and strongest teams late in second half. Its frustrating but seems logical. To blame Hurley is non sensical but then again, this is the yard and I guess haters are simply going to hate.
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It’s not hating. What are you talking about? Four games in a row he’s made no adjustments. This isn’t a young team and this isn’t Hurley’s first year. Thinking that criticizing Hurley means we expected the team to go undefeated is ridiculous. But when a coach refuses to make changes and it’s costing us games, it has to be called out. It doesn’t mean you’re a “hater”. It’s that a fanbase that remembers being a national powerhouse doesn’t settle for this type of nonsense. He’s got his best team since he’s been here and yet we’re talking about the same stuff since year two. It’s not the losses but how we’ve lost. It’s tiresome that people refuse to acknowledge this
 
We melt like hot butter against the zone. The offense is predictable and easily shut down. Feels almost like someone is leaving the emergency brake on. I love this team, and when we're free wheeling and playing scrappy defense and getting all those offensive boards I see UCONN. But there's an inertia there, like the team is waiting for someone else to make it happen. At 9:35 left we're down 10. It's time to rock n roll. Never happened.

I don't bash anyone, but I just don't see any alphas besides Jackson and Clingan providing leadership and that includes the men in suits.
 
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1999GoodSon said:
We melt like hot butter against the zone. The offense is predictable and easily shut down. Feels almost like someone is leaving the emergency brake on. I love this team, and when we're free wheeling and playing scrappy defense and getting all those offensive boards I see UCONN. But there's an inertia there, like the team is waiting for someone else to make it happen. At 9:35 left we're down 10. It's time to rock n roll. Never happened.

I don't bash anyone, but I just don't see any alphas besides Jackson and Clingan providing leadership and that includes the men in suits.
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The talent is there, the depth is there, the experience is there. When other teams game plan the same way game after game and we don’t adjust that negates the talent and depth
 
UConnSwag11 said:
It’s not hating. What are you talking about? Four games in a row he’s made no adjustments. This isn’t a young team and this isn’t Hurley’s first year. Thinking that criticizing Hurley means we expected the team to go undefeated is ridiculous. But when a coach refuses to make changes and it’s costing us games, it has to be called out. It doesn’t mean you’re a “hater”. It’s that a fanbase that remembers being a national powerhouse doesn’t settle for this type of nonsense. He’s got his best team since he’s been here and yet we’re talking about the same stuff since year two. It’s not the losses but how we’ve lost. It’s tiresome that people refuse to acknowledge this
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What adjustments are you looking for? In the last four games, Hurley has made plenty of personal adjustments. Diarra vs Nova wasnt an adjustment? Clingan and Sanogo on the floor last night wasn't an adjustment? Or all you looking for a box and 1 on hopkins? a zone on defense? Hurley will rarely make those adjustments in large part because he doesn't have to. They are gimmicky and are in place to over compensate for deficiencies. To say we lost last night because of Hurley is insane. We lost last night because of poor execution. We lost last night because we lost composure on the court. We lost last night because the refs took us out of our game and rhythm. The foul discrepency alone took one of our strengths into a weakness that cost us the game. None of that is on Hurley.
 
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djct1999 said:
What adjustments are you looking for? In the last four games, Hurley has made plenty of personal adjustments. Diarra vs Nova wasnt an adjustment? Clingan and Sanogo on the floor last night wasn't an adjustment? Or all you looking for a box and 1 on hopkins? a zone on defense? Hurley will rarely make those adjustments in large part because he doesn't have to. They are gimmicky and are in place to over compensate for deficiencies. To say we lost last night because of Hurley is insane. We lost last night because of poor execution. We lost last night because we lost composure on the court. We lost last night because the refs took us out of our game and rhythm. The foul discrepency alone took one of our strengths into a weakness that cost us the game. None of that is on Hurley.
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We’ve been running the same offensive sets since November 1st.
 
UConnSwag11 said:
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With the how the game was being called, realistically how do you think this would turn out? Either AJax would have to play off Hopkins to not get into more foul trouble (Hopkins is good enough to score on anyone) or AJax would have played up on Hopkins and would have been called for fouls 3 and 4 almost immediately. In theory, of course AJax should have guarded Hopkins. In the context of last nights game, the refs made this impossible.
 
CTBasketball said:
We’ve been running the same offensive sets since November 1st.
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and Calhoun and Ollie didnt run the same offense? Its by design. And we certainly didnt lose last night because of the offensive sets we ran.
 
The play is definitely off. Sanogo had Clingan open a few times on a mismatch, he chose to fling it across court to either a turnover or a player taking a contested. Missed layups, slow to get to spots defensively. This team is now seeing the difference in the teams they beat and their conference competition. I think they’ll adjust but it’s now at a point where the minutes need to go to those who are playing with effort and can provide a consistent lift. This year isn’t over yet and we will be fine, but the guards we need to make a serious run may not be on the roster. However, there is the talent to win it all if they can find that rythmn as a unit.
 
Observations:
-I'm good on Diarra, just doesn't really offer anything unique that other players can provide, and those other players can actually score. Being the 'energy guy' only goes so-far against good teams.
-I'm excited for Samson to come back. Karaban really got exposed defensively last night, although it was a very tough matchup. Most of the fouls called on him were legit/Hopkins is a stud, but AK looked defeated on defense.
-We have a fouling problem. 343rd in the country in FTA/FGA per KenPom. Providence's offense is predicated on getting to the free-throw line, it was a bad matchup from the start.
-We really need Alleyne to find himself. Where is the guy that routinely shot 40% from 3 at Virginia Tech? If we only have 1 or 2 respectable 3-point shooters (while Joey C only plays 9 minutes per game), we're going to run into some problems.
 
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CTBasketball said:
We’ve been running the same offensive sets since November 1st.
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And I’m not even really talking about the offense. It’s our defense with Karaban and then our defense as a whole.
 
Every team has its flaws. How do you hide them or compensate for them is the question? To my eye..
We are getting out-toughed.. out-hustled.. out-worked. In our two recent losses.. Those teams imposed their will on us.. worked the refs.. and dictated play to our weaknesses. . In the BE..You have to "hold serve " at home and win those games to be a contender.. Feast on the weaker teams/grab a few Ws on away games with the stronger and mid-level teams. We have lost to two of the strongest teams in the BE on their home courts playing our "C" game. Should not have been totally unexpected.

Greg and Shaka know what they need to do to beat us --if they can.. If I was Hurley (Captain Obvious here) I would not expect any favors from the refs.. Got to win games through coaching and player performance.. Stop whining and play BE BB.. Tough/intense/win 50/50 balls/boards. Friars had 5 guys hitting the boards in most sequences last night.

The Yard does a great job of breaking down our deficiencies.. And we have them.. I'll be happy with a 3-2 record going through this 5 game stretch and looking at some winnable games after that to get things back on track.

All that matters is the next game..
 
Hans Sprungfeld said:
Your other posts are consistent with this overall view. I find that helpful, and the downvotes your comment received showed a similar clarity.
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just don't like his style, same with the other Hurley at Arizona State. I feel they let their emotions get the best of them and distracts from the team. Yea you can show fire, but at some point let it be about the kids not you.
 
MervthePurvis said:
Is this the guy that posted Hurley got in a fight with providence fans?
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@socal613ws, was that you? Or did you post that it was a fake tweet in criticism of someone else posting that? Or was it both?

I'm confused on this, but not willing to look it up. It'll blow over or blow up in size, depending on how real and how big a deal it is.

One way or another, it's worth noting that not everybody who posts here is a friend of the program, and some take delight in provoking internal squabbles, dissension, and misunderstanding among and between those who do want the best.

And who knows more of BOTH the good and bad than those most intimate? We've already seen a lot to like and dislike.

After 2 consecutive losses, it's a combustible mess here, and 2 more challenging games are on tap.

Buckle up, and remember that the transition from 2010 to 2011 had similar notes that extended through a 9-9 Big East record, with a 5-5 away record and 4 losses at home.

My wish is that coaches, players, and fans make healthy adjustments. Go Huskies...

"Fighting with a true love is boxing with no gloves."

- T Swift
 
storrsroars said:
I thought we were onto something when AJax cruised to that ferocious slam, thinking that would be available as long as Sanogo was triple teamed. But never saw it again. Not sure why.
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100% - I thought “well that’s exactly what this team needs someone to drive hard to the rim” then it went away as quickly as it came.
 
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karstenkibbe said:
I know the Dre lovers aren’t going to like this take but here goes… after seeing Andre jawing with Croswell and his late-game decision making the last few games, I’ve come to the solid conclusion that his close relationship with Hurley has led him to take on Hurley’s persona: can’t always control his emotions and oftentimes makes poor decisions, particularly in late game situations. Yeah yeah… he brings so much to the table. I get it. But he doesn’t play a heady or controlled game at crucial times. Those brick threes early in the second half kept us from building any momentum.
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I believe you're making a good point here that gets passed over. Andre is a team leader on the court. He does a lot of good things, but he does lose control of his emotions at some critical times in games.

Here is my unorganized stream of consciousness on last night's game: The bottom line is that despite being a close game in the first half, the Providence players and coaches outplayed and outcoached our guys. Off nights happen, more often on away courts. I give Dan Hurley credit for finally playing Sanogo and Clingan together, but that wasn't enough. Providence beat our guys on the their very favorable home court last night. The home team usually gets the calls from the refs. Their best player had a showcase game which, unfortunately, has happened more often than we would like. Other Providence players had some luck as well with some 3-point shots that went in. Floyd had one in the first half and another guard had one in the second. That's a 6-point swing that gave them confidence. In the second half, Providence players made the effort to get rebounds and extend possessions (and opportunities to score). None of our players had a good game. Clingan probably played the best to his capabilities and I suspect that he would say that he didn't have a good game either. Last night, our players' effort was not sustained long enough into the second half to win the game. We didn't get enough rebounds, loose balls or second chance points. They need to play hard and bounce back. Hurley has said that solid defense will be the mantra of this team to help carry them on off nights. It's time to ratchet back up the defense, playing hard, but also smart, avoiding the frustration fouls. This is where Andre has a big impact.
 
djct1999 said:
Because you know Samson can guard them? Name one thing you have seen Samson do on the court ever.
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Well we certainly know Karaban can’t. And Samson has tools that Karaban doesn’t have on that side of the ball, so it’s certainly possible.
 
CardiacAndre7 said:
Well we certainly know Karaban can’t. And Samson has tools that Karaban doesn’t have on that side of the ball, so it’s certainly possible.
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Really? Like the tools he showed against Stonehill: fouling?
 
alphasigko said:
Really? Like the tools he showed against Stonehill: fouling?
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No, tools as in tools. Like athleticism, length and quickness.

Every big on our team fouls a good amount. Really no point to bring up the first game of the year when everyone was figuring things out.
 
CardiacAndre7 said:
No, tools as in tools. Like athleticism, length and quickness.

Every big on our team fouls a good amount. Really no point to bring up the first game of the year when everyone was figuring things out.
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From what I saw, he was either fouling or lost in a daze while he was on the court.
 
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