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USC and UCLA to the BIG Ten

Kolumbo said:
I don't disagree but one thing the top teams are getting is wins. As they invite other top programs, the schedule gets more difficult and That's where the bottom feeders come in. If they had a conference full of perennial ranked teams none would make the play-offs. No doubt the top of the conference will figure out a way to get more of the pie at some point though.
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Somehow the SEC has navigated this just fine. The SEC West is perennially chock full of top 25 teams. They not only make the playoffs, they dominate by typically being 1/2 the field.
 
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Rufus said:
www.uscannenbergmedia.com

The Big Ten Breakdown: Why the Big Ten needs USC

USC is a great edition for the Big Ten, and there’s good reason for why the conference wanted the Trojans.
www.uscannenbergmedia.com www.uscannenbergmedia.com
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These articles crack me up. USC and UCLA have nothing to do with making the BiG a better on-field football conference. They bring one single critical ingredient to the BiG........a huge and lucrative market. The BiG and SEC will grab he best of the rest in the PAC along a north-south divide. The BiG and SEC may or may not have the patience to wait out the GOR in the ACC to grab the premier program there.

College football and eventually basketball will then bifurcate. Professional franchises affiliated with universities with the remaining programs resembling something we recognize as traditional college athletics. It's not if it's when this happens.
 
uconndogs said:
These articles crack me up. USC and UCLA have nothing to do with making the BiG a better on-field football conference. They bring one single critical ingredient to the BiG........a huge and lucrative market. The BiG and SEC will grab he best of the rest in the PAC along a north-south divide. The BiG and SEC may or may not have the patience to wait out the GOR in the ACC to grab the premier program there.

College football and eventually basketball will then bifurcate. Professional franchises affiliated with universities with the remaining programs resembling something we recognize as traditional college athletics. It's not if it's when this happens.
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The move by UCONN to the N Big East may be one of the most enlightened forward thinking moves (granted it didn't have much choice) by any program ahead of the bifurcation, which is why UCONN basketball is HERE, and syracuse, pitt and bcu are nowhere.
 
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Kolumbo said:
The move by UCONN to the N Big East may be one of the most enlightened forward thinking moves (granted it didn't have much choice) by any program ahead of the bifurcation, which is why UCONN basketball is HERE, and syracuse, pitt and bcu are nowhere.
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I agree that the move to the BE was the right move for hoops and if this thing does bifurcate running football on an independent basis in the interim will also prove to have been the right move. If this all shakes out, I think UCONN, Cuse, BC and Pitt all end up more or less in the same boat. I like our odds in that scenario.
 
I really need to ask how you figure we are better off in the NEWBIE. If indeed there is a split, we are essentially relegated to D2. We will have maybe 10% of the revenue which means we struggle to keep coaches we want to keep, fall behind in terms of facilities, with no chance of catching up. Even vs the ACC where estimates are they get roughly $10 million for basketball we are falling way behind. We get +-$5.5. Maybe if all else works we get to $7.5. Ultimately UConn will be caught in no man’s land. Unable to compete with even the worst of the P5 but above the mid-majors.

I get that a section of the fan base isn’t really UConn fans but rather NEWBIE fans. Us being stuck there isn’t a good thing for UConn.
 
freescooter said:
I get that a section of the fan base isn’t really UConn fans but rather NEWBIE fans. Us being stuck there isn’t a good thing for UConn.
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You never state how we would be better off if we were still in the AAC.
 
freescooter said:
I really need to ask how you figure we are better off in the NEWBIE. If indeed there is a split, we are essentially relegated to D2. We will have maybe 10% of the revenue which means we struggle to keep coaches we want to keep, fall behind in terms of facilities, with no chance of catching up. Even vs the ACC where estimates are they get roughly $10 million for basketball we are falling way behind. We get +-$5.5. Maybe if all else works we get to $7.5. Ultimately UConn will be caught in no man’s land. Unable to compete with even the worst of the P5 but above the mid-majors.

I get that a section of the fan base isn’t really UConn fans but rather NEWBIE fans. Us being stuck there isn’t a good thing for UConn.
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freescooter said:
I really need to ask how you figure we are better off in the NEWBIE. If indeed there is a split, we are essentially relegated to D2. We will have maybe 10% of the revenue which means we struggle to keep coaches we want to keep, fall behind in terms of facilities, with no chance of catching up. Even vs the ACC where estimates are they get roughly $10 million for basketball we are falling way behind. We get +-$5.5. Maybe if all else works we get to $7.5. Ultimately UConn will be caught in no man’s land. Unable to compete with even the worst of the P5 but above the mid-majors.

I get that a section of the fan base isn’t really UConn fans but rather NEWBIE fans. Us being stuck there isn’t a good thing for UConn.
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My speculation is that 40 or so programs split off and are essentially professional franchises. Recruits and players are essentially payed as professional athletes for their services. The guise of NIL is no longer necessary as they have broken off from the NCAA. This is a big dollar game....think NFL type money with the franchises owned by the Universities.

Only a select group will play in that realm and I highly doubt UCONN is in that group. I can actually see an argument where UCONN and many schools would rather not play at that level. The next level I think will look something like traditional college athletics with regional affiliations. Personally, I would prefer that.
 
freescooter said:
I really need to ask how you figure we are better off in the NEWBIE. If indeed there is a split, we are essentially relegated to D2. We will have maybe 10% of the revenue which means we struggle to keep coaches we want to keep, fall behind in terms of facilities, with no chance of catching up. Even vs the ACC where estimates are they get roughly $10 million for basketball we are falling way behind. We get +-$5.5. Maybe if all else works we get to $7.5. Ultimately UConn will be caught in no man’s land. Unable to compete with even the worst of the P5 but above the mid-majors.

I get that a section of the fan base isn’t really UConn fans but rather NEWBIE fans. Us being stuck there isn’t a good thing for UConn.
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uconndogs said:
My speculation is that 40 or so programs split off and are essentially professional franchises. Recruits and players are essentially payed as professional athletes for their services. The guise of NIL is no longer necessary as they have broken off from the NCAA. This is a big dollar game....think NFL type money with the franchises owned by the Universities.

Only a select group will play in that realm and I highly doubt UCONN is in that group. I can actually see an argument where UCONN and many schools would rather not play at that level. The next level I think will look something like traditional college athletics with regional affiliations. Personally, I would prefer that.
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And the NFL and NBA will just let a bunch of colleges create a product that is competitive with theirs. Right.

If a minor league ever becomes a viable product, the NBA and NFL will just step in and do it themselves. The NBA is already moving in that direction.
 
Waquoit said:
You never state how we would be better off if we were still in the AAC.
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I didn’t say we would be better off in the AAC. This is about the future. But we won’t be better off in the NEWBIE either for the reasons I listed and others. We need to do everything in the university’s power to get into a major all sports conference.
 
freescooter said:
I really need to ask how you figure we are better off in the NEWBIE. If indeed there is a split, we are essentially relegated to D2. We will have maybe 10% of the revenue which means we struggle to keep coaches we want to keep, fall behind in terms of facilities, with no chance of catching up. Even vs the ACC where estimates are they get roughly $10 million for basketball we are falling way behind. We get +-$5.5. Maybe if all else works we get to $7.5. Ultimately UConn will be caught in no man’s land. Unable to compete with even the worst of the P5 but above the mid-majors.

I get that a section of the fan base isn’t really UConn fans but rather NEWBIE fans. Us being stuck there isn’t a good thing for UConn.
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First, UCONN Basketball is doing much better in the N BE than in the AAC. Strangely enough, it is also doing much better than our former BE mates who are floundering in the ACC.

Second, I think UCONN will be fine because if things continue to change at this pace, the landscape will look drastically different in 5-10 years. Ideally they separate football from olympic sports and go back to regional conferences which only makes far too much sense.
 
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