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mauconnfan said:
Not according to Justin Leonard and everyone on the Golf Channel they all think DQ was the right move.

They said his intent takes 14.5 out and he should’ve been DQd and I doubt they perceive him as a phony. I have grown to like Phil but this was just a real bad look for him. Still just a one n done he shouldn’t suffer for it at all in regards to his legacy.
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Agree with this completely. While not my favorite, I respect the hell out of his game. 43 PGA tour wins and 5 majors makes for a remarkable career and obvious 1st ballot inductee to the HOF. I don't think it will hurt his reputation one bit.

In addition to intent, you could also DQ him for 33-7 'serious breach of etiquette. When a pro does that in a major you really can't let him keep playing. There are only two ways to take his action 1) your course sucks and I'm going to break the rules cause I don't care or 2) I'm done and don't feel like walking down that hill again. Either case, he can't be allowed to play on Sunday. Now the gates are open for anyone to do this and say 'Phil didn't get DQ'd.' It was funny when it happened and I actually respected it to some extent, but I don't want to see it ever again. Bad precedent for Golf to set.
 
The nice thing about yesterdays set up is that it brought everyone back into the mix today. Should be a great final round.
 
Phil celebrating the put at 13 today. lmao

 
If Koepka holds on to the win here the Travelers will have the current title holders from the British Open, PGA Championship, Masters, Players and US Open.
 
Vuce said:
If Koepka holds on to the win here the Travelers will have the current title holders from the British Open, PGA Championship, Masters, Players and US Open.
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The Open winner usually takes the next week off. Not trying to be a buzz kill but that usually happens. Still a great field.
 
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Got a kick out of the announcers all saying Koepka is built like a linebacker. Great player though.
 
jleves said:
Agree with this completely. While not my favorite, I respect the hell out of his game. 43 PGA tour wins and 5 majors makes for a remarkable career and obvious 1st ballot inductee to the HOF. I don't think it will hurt his reputation one bit.

In addition to intent, you could also DQ him for 33-7 'serious breach of etiquette. When a pro does that in a major you really can't let him keep playing. There are only two ways to take his action 1) your course sucks and I'm going to break the rules cause I don't care or 2) I'm done and don't feel like walking down that hill again. Either case, he can't be allowed to play on Sunday. Now the gates are open for anyone to do this and say 'Phil didn't get DQ'd.' It was funny when it happened and I actually respected it to some extent, but I don't want to see it ever again. Bad precedent for Golf to set.
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Gimmes are next.
 
Palatine said:
The Open winner usually takes the next week off. Not trying to be a buzz kill but that usually happens. Still a great field.
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Have worked the tourney in Cromwell several times....can't remember the Open winner ever coming....not that it didn't happen, or that I have a foolproof memory...
 
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Yardigan said:
Have worked the tourney in Cromwell several times....can't remember the Open winner ever coming....not that it didn't happen, or that I have a foolproof memory...
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Justin Rose did a few years ago. He committed to the tourney, won the us Open then showed up at the Travelers. I am sure about this because I got a pic with him
 
Yup, Rose came after he won. Webb Simpson showed up in 2012 after he won. Glover showed up in 2009. It's actually a lot more common than you'd think. Kopeka hadn't committed to Traveler's last year like he has for this year.

If you look back at some of the more recent ones too they were guys who wouldn't normally come to Travelers -- Spieth, Rory, Kaymer. Fully expect Koepka to show.
 
I bet US Open backlash results in many positive Travelers comments.
 
The worst for me was when Rocco snubbed his commitment after coming in 2nd. Never heard from the guy since, karma.
 
gwhuskyfan said:
Yup, Rose came after he won. Webb Simpson showed up in 2012 after he won. Glover showed up in 2009. It's actually a lot more common than you'd think. Kopeka hadn't committed to Traveler's last year like he has for this year.

If you look back at some of the more recent ones too they were guys who wouldn't normally come to Travelers -- Spieth, Rory, Kaymer. Fully expect Koepka to show.
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Pavin came after he won at Shinnecock in '95.
 
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Excalibur said:
Yeah the 18-hole playoff on Monday had nothing to do with it . . .
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It didn’t. I remember him saying as much.

I also recall Ian Baker-Finch coming after winning a major. And that was the British Open.
 
I rarely agree with Chamblee but he made a point last night where the fairways were too wide. If they tighten up the fairways then it doesn't become a who putts best on concrete contest. Mike Davis should stop apologizing for hole locations and unforseen windy conditions and make the change that won't have to be tinkered with everyday. And the argument that we don't want the pros to be hitting iron off of every tee because of tight fairways is moot because the big boys were hitting driving irons off most of the tees anyways. I don't know if Phil didn't get DQ'd because he's Phil or because the USGA thought they might get abused about the course set up if they did DQ him. IMO he should have been DQ'd. It's a bad precedent.
 
QDOG5 said:
I rarely agree with Chamblee but he made a point last night where the fairways were too wide. If they tighten up the fairways then it doesn't become a who putts best on concrete contest. Mike Davis should stop apologizing for hole locations and unforseen windy conditions and make the change that won't have to be tinkered with everyday. And the argument that we don't want the pros to be hitting iron off of every tee because of tight fairways is moot because the big boys were hitting driving irons off most of the tees anyways. I don't know if Phil didn't get DQ'd because he's Phil or because the USGA thought they might get abused about the course set up if they did DQ him. IMO he should have been DQ'd. It's a bad precedent.
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Instead of a DQ Phil he should get a bonus from the USGA for taking the heat off the joke of a setup that once again spoiled our National Tournament
Maybe next year they will have a windmill .
 
QDOG5 said:
I rarely agree with Chamblee but he made a point last night where the fairways were too wide. If they tighten up the fairways then it doesn't become a who putts best on concrete contest. Mike Davis should stop apologizing for hole locations and unforseen windy conditions and make the change that won't have to be tinkered with everyday. And the argument that we don't want the pros to be hitting iron off of every tee because of tight fairways is moot because the big boys were hitting driving irons off most of the tees anyways. I don't know if Phil didn't get DQ'd because he's Phil or because the USGA thought they might get abused about the course set up if they did DQ him. IMO he should have been DQ'd. It's a bad precedent.
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They would have DQd him if he made the redirect. Came close.
 
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Perfect course for Koepke....when he was on FSU's golf team, he played on the FSU Seminole course....narrow fairways, baked hard greens in the summer...

Doesn't feature water hazards, not very pretty...just a blah course....but hit the ball long and straight, and putt with a hand that doesn't over putt...and you can beat par (well, not me).
 
To me that was an old fashioned open. Miss the fairway and pay a price. Wrong place on the green, pay a price. The Open SHOULD be different from the weekly TEE-IT-UP Open. Last year at that cow pasture was the total joke. Erin Hills was no tougher than the Travelers. The old concept was that par should be a good score at the US Open. The last few years it has become a total joke. And Erin Hills was basically the Greater Greensboro Open.
 
freescooter said:
To me that was an old fashioned open. Miss the fairway and pay a price. Wrong place on the green, pay a price. The Open SHOULD be different from the weekly TEE-IT-UP Open. Last year at that cow pasture was the total joke. Erin Hills was no tougher than the Travelers. The old concept was that par should be a good score at the US Open. The last few years it has become a total joke. And Erin Hills was basically the Greater Greensboro Open.
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Agree for the most part, overblown because of 3-4 pin placements on Saturday otherwise it was the US Open again. The fairways were huge for them so the greens better be tough that's of sure.
 
gwhuskyfan said:
Yup, Rose came after he won. Webb Simpson showed up in 2012 after he won. Glover showed up in 2009. It's actually a lot more common than you'd think. Kopeka hadn't committed to Traveler's last year like he has for this year.

If you look back at some of the more recent ones too they were guys who wouldn't normally come to Travelers -- Spieth, Rory, Kaymer. Fully expect Koepka to show.
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Koepka will be at the Travelers. He's going to skip the pro am but he will be there on Thursday to play - can't wait - will be a fun weekend
 
Pairings out for Thursday and Friday. Some of these groups.... amazing to see how far Travelers has come

Day, Schauffele, Berger

Koepka, Simpson, Reed

Leishman, Spieth, Knox

Bubba, Rory, Thomas
 
mauconnfan said:
Agree for the most part, overblown because of 3-4 pin placements on Saturday otherwise it was the US Open again. The fairways were huge for them so the greens better be tough that's of sure.
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Exactly, due to all the complaints the USGA decided a few years ago to widen the Open fairways to basically Tour width so guys can just bomb away without worrying. Erin Hills took that beyond the logical extreme. Even Shinnecock was wider than in previous Opens. If these guys ever had to play a course set up like Winged Foot in 1974 or Shinnecock the year Pavin won their heads would explode.
 
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