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My underatted cities? Portland Me, Seattle, San Diego, Santa Fe, Harrisonburg VA, Providence RI, Santa Barbara CA, Portsmouth NH, St Pete, Tampa FL, Charlotte NC, Chapel Hill NC, Memphis TN, KC, Covington KY (much preferable to Cincy), Athens, GA, Boston, Stamford. MY overratted cites? Dallas, Houston (any city in Texas), LA, NYC, Hartford, Atlanta, Miami, any city in NJ, San Fran, Salt Lake City, Biloxi, NO, any city in Phoenix area.
 
My underatted cities? Portland Me, Seattle, San Diego, Santa Fe, Harrisonburg VA, Providence RI, Santa Barbara CA, Portsmouth NH, St Pete, Tampa FL, Charlotte NC, Chapel Hill NC, Memphis TN, KC, Covington KY (much preferable to Cincy), Athens, GA, Boston, Stamford. MY overratted cites? Dallas, Houston (any city in Texas), LA, NYC, Hartford, Atlanta, Miami, any city in NJ, San Fran, Salt Lake City, Biloxi, NO, any city in Phoenix area.
I don’t think a single city on this list is underrated.
 
Yeah. Actually you don’t know me. So keep making ass..umptions. I’ve likely lived in a hell of a lot more diverse cities than you have. Soulless? Maybe because you’re a spoiled guy who grew up in Fairfield County and aren’t part of a community. No, the people I grew up with don’t live here anymore. And no, I’m not part of the WASP class you’re likely bred from.
I will say this about Stamford. You have a infinitely higher chance of having a middle or upper middle class Black neighbor in Stamford than you do in Pittsburgh. Also plenty of Latinos making it in Stamford. Here in Pittsburgh, Latinos are mostly all in the hilly, decrepit Beechview neighborhood, which hasn't seen a new house in my lifetime.

I remember when they first started developing the Summer St extension with the Mexican place and the New Orleans place on the corner. And the Davenport Hotel bar across from Bobby V's. Those were pretty good bars for the time and something Stamford lacked as it was mostly shot and beer joints back then. So over in that area one could have a good time. And then you could still walk to Tacos Guadalajara for cheap drunk food. Maybe it wasn't much, but man, at the time it was huge progress.
 
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Anyone with opinions on the Space Coast Florida? Vero Beach, Melbourne, Viera?
 
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I went to undergrad in NC and have to say Raleigh, Wilmington are great places and law school in RI and Providence is underrated. At least 20 years ago when I was there. Would love to retire in NC
 
If you've lived in a more diverse neighborhood than Queens, let's hear it.
Houston. Southwest Houston. Specifically, Fondren.

Queens isn’t a neighborhood. Forest Hills Gardens? Or Jamaica Estates? Bwahahaha.
 
I would suggest Beaufort, SC over Savannah or Charleston.

IMO both Savannah and Charleston are pretty well rated or known for what they offer.

Beaufort splits the difference between the two and has some small town charm.
Savannah is about 45 min and Charleston is a bit over an hour.

Beaufort is also close to Hilton Head without all the old retiree trappings of Hilton Head.
Savannah is the hood and Charleston is a gorgeous place full of interesting mansions, brick roads and amazing landscaping. I don’t see the similarity at all.
 
Anyone with opinions on the Space Coast Florida? Vero Beach, Melbourne, Viera?
I have been there quite a few times due to work and play. I wouldn’t call the area a city in relation to the cities discussed but there is a lot going on down there.
 
Late to the party but...

I spent a couple of weeks in SLC in 2019. I really loved it - great hiking, incredible views. The downside is mostly alcohol-related. Beers on tap are limited to 4%, have to order food. There is a weird smog inversion thing and generally bad air quality. And last they get more snow than Boston.

The northeast has several great small cities - Portsmouth, Portland, Burlington, Newport and yes even Providence. They’re all pretty nice but I like Newport the best.
 
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any city in Phoenix area.
Tempe is great. Nice downtown - vibrant due to the college, lots of scenery (mountains of course). You just have to put up with oppressive heat. Would have been a great landing spot for my earlier years.
 
Savannah is the hood and Charleston is a gorgeous place full of interesting mansions, brick roads and amazing landscaping. I don’t see the similarity at all.

Savannah has plenty to do along the river front area and up the river for several blocks without any dangers. It has plenty of history on its own. You can avoid any "hood" type areas without much of an issue. It is definitely a bit more quirky and blue collar than Charleston. Charleston is definitely a bit more uppidity and stiff collared. And yes, the mansions along the harbor are impressive.

Somewhat ironic, while in Charleston Mrs. Diesel and myself found plenty of locally sourced and made food from Savannah. While in Savannah we didn't see anything from Charleston.

Going back to my original point............nice thing about Beaufort is you can spend a day in either city and get back in your own bed with a pretty easy drive from either city.
 
Been saying that and getting slammed for it for years. Burn it to the ground and start over.

Two options, all involve not persisting with the idea that it can be saved.

1) Wait for everyone to move and then turn it into an empty field and try again in 200 years.

2) Get a time machine. Go back in time and establish the main UConn campus in Hartford on the banks of the river. Boom. Classic New England college town.
 
New Haven belongs on that list. From an off he charts Yale Museum, to the best pizza in America - not to mention GREAT Italian restaurants, boating on the sound, concerts on the Green, bar scene is top notch, good music scene, pretty decent off off broadway theater, vastly underrated city.

 
New Haven belongs on that list. From an off he charts Yale Museum, to the best pizza in America - not to mention GREAT Italian restaurants, boating on the sound, concerts on the Green, bar scene is top notch, good music scene, pretty decent off off broadway theater, vastly underrated city.


I think New Haven has the most potential of the CT cities as well.
 
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My hometown of Pittsburgh is number one but I’ll throw Columbus into the mix...

As close as it is, I never really considered a trip to Columbus until a few years ago when we had a game at OSU. Since then I’m angry I waited so long to make the trip, as it’s a seriously fun spot. R Bar in the Arena District is truly the best sports bar I’ve ever been to. Tons of fun spots, great food, and very affordable. Can’t recommend it enough.
Absolutely agree. Columbus has really turned itself into a great small city and it has some trendy suburbs as well. The new soccer stadium is going to be fantastic in the arena district the Clippers baseball park is one of the best minor league parks to watch a game, and the different villages offer vast array of different food and drink. Lived here longer now then I did back home in Barkhamsted and even convinced my parents to come off the mountain and move out here. They said they wished they did years earlier!
 
It's nice seeing a lot of people mention Milwaukee and Cincinnati, two cities I'd love to visit and parlay that trip with a UConn game.

Lots of mentioning of Portsmouth too. I've never been, but a friend of mine moved there along with his wife and kids a few years ago and can't wait to check it out, it looks gorgeous.
 
New Haven belongs on that list. From an off he charts Yale Museum, to the best pizza in America - not to mention GREAT Italian restaurants, boating on the sound, concerts on the Green, bar scene is top notch, good music scene, pretty decent off off broadway theater, vastly underrated city.


You’re not wrong.
My hometown of Pittsburgh is number one but I’ll throw Columbus into the mix...

As close as it is, I never really considered a trip to Columbus until a few years ago when we had a game at OSU. Since then I’m angry I waited so long to make the trip, as it’s a seriously fun spot. R Bar in the Arena District is truly the best sports bar I’ve ever been to. Tons of fun spots, great food, and very affordable. Can’t recommend it enough.

You’re not wrong either.
 
Savannah is the hood and Charleston is a gorgeous place full of interesting mansions, brick roads and amazing landscaping. I don’t see the similarity at all.
I just don’t get the Savannah thing. Pretty rough, lots of sewage smell around town, a little scary after dark even in the nice parts and the good part just isn’t very big.
 
I love my city of Buffalo as "underrated."

It's great for what it is, but people on the outside don't know enough about it so they make the easy jokes and rash judgments.

Anyone who spends more than 2 days here falls in love and despite plenty of crap still holding it back, it's changed drastically in the last 20 years.

I don't know about how it's rated in the general public, but Toronto is one of my favorite cities.
If you're going to pitch Buffalo, I'll add Rochester. Both get a bad rap because of snow without skiing, but, yes, there's lots to like for those who live there or visit.
New York City.

Hidden gem, really under-discussed.
Queens, in particular, is underrated. If the path along (or beneath) the 7 train out to Flushing isn't the most ethnically diverse place on the planet any longer, it's still in the top 5.

@karstenkibbe, you might as well add Douglaston to Jamaica Estates and Forest Hills Gardens, and then properly consider them a component of the borough's staggering variety of cultures, from the north to south shore.
just curious... under what measures have things “gotten worse” in Stamford? It’s the only major city in the entire state with positive population growth. It just overtook New Haven in population, and in 10 years, it will likely be the largest city in the state. Young people are moving to Stamford in droves - many of whom are coming from NYC. If I was 25, I would love to live in Harbor Point, the most ambitious and successful residential development project this state has seen in a long time.

I don’t get the “stale, upper class growth” statement. There’s literally nothing pretentious about this city. Stamford is NOTHING like Greenwich, Darien or New Canaan. You didn’t mention the homeless people hanging out at McDonald’s or by the library on Bedford. Stamford has real big city challenges, but manages them much better than Hartford, New Haven, Bridgeport and Waterbury. In fact, the city consistently places in the top 10 safest cities above 100,000 population on the FBI’s safest cities list.

Like you, I’m biased too. I was born here and grew up here. I’ve lived in Chicago, L.A., Houston and NYC. Moved back here with my family a decade ago. Is it the same as it was in the 70s? Nope. Do I miss some things? Of course. But this city is so much more livable now. And I wouldn’t trade it for Norwalk’s strip malls that dominate the Post Road from the Darien border to the Westport border. To each his/her own, I guess.
North Stamford, in parts, is indistinguishable from back country Greenwich and New Canaan.

One thing that has genuinely distinguished Stamford from other CT cities is that it united what we're once separate places into a unified city even before the redeveloped downtown that has been mentioned. As pointed out elsewhere, many US cities have done similarly, annexing adjacent towns and even entire counties (like done or all of Louisville, Columbus, San Antonio, and Indianapolis have), and become healthier for it.

Someone similarly noted that West Hartford, Glastonbury would be interesting, wealthy, tax-revenue contributing neighborhoods in such metropolitanized cities, but Conbecticut's cities suffer in part because only in Stamford do the wealthy and poor have to share resources & responsibilities. Stamford also hugely benefitted from CT's more attractive tax structure when major corporations departed from NYC a half century ago.
 
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Late on this one but here are some towns/cities I enjoy that can be overlooked.

I live in Charlotte, think it’s a good city. For those that ask about retiring here, I’d suggest against it. Very liveable city, fun times to be had, but wouldn’t suggest retiring here because of it not being close enough to the beach. It’s also gotten pretty expensive, could probably find a cheaper option.

Brevard, NC is a pretty underrated town. It’s small, but at the entrance of Pisgah National Forest. Cool little mountain town, some of the best hiking on the east coast. Few other towns would include Carrboro/Chapel Hill, Boone/Blowing Rock, honestly can’t go wrong with any of the mountain towns in Western NC. Some of the best scenery in the country out that way and the highest peak east of the Mississippi.

Charleston, SC certainly isn’t underrated but it’s my favorite beach town in the southeast. St Augustine is another one of my favorites as well. I’d add Wilmington too if looking at beaches in that region.
 
I agree with Providence. It gets crapped on and is a nice city. Terrific restaurants, good arts & music, even has some good breweries, especially Long Live Beer Works.

Burlington, Savannah, Charleston are terrific, but not underrated.

Kansas City is underrated. The Plaza area is really nice, and they have done a terrific job creating interesting spots for dining, bars, music etc. Long a center for Jazz and Blues music, and of course BBQ. Few cities have upgraded themselves the way it has over the last 20 years. Curious if @ZooCougar agrees.

Aiken, SC is quite nice. It's across the river from Augusta, GA. It is loaded with horse farms, and is an equestrian center. It has a really nice downtown area, lots of outdoor dining and it has become fairly young and vibrant, in part due to the growth of U SC - Aiken.

Worcester, MA is closing in on being underrated. It doesn't have a great rep, and still have some work to do. But the downtown is pretty decent, it has 3 colleges, several breweries sprung up, and now the Red Sox AAA team has moved in to Polar Park, which is going to include a new dining/bar area. It is a biotech hub, and given that it is still inexpensive, I think it will be a target of increased gentrification. Loads of gorgeous old homes.

Very underrated. KC has just about everything you could want. They don’t have NHL or NBA.
 
It's nice seeing a lot of people mention Milwaukee and Cincinnati, two cities I'd love to visit and parlay that trip with a UConn game.

Lots of mentioning of Portsmouth too. I've never been, but a friend of mine moved there along with his wife and kids a few years ago and can't wait to check it out, it looks gorgeous.
The thing about a place like Milwaukee is it’s not the northeast. People in the northeast (CT, NYC, NJ, Boston) are short tempered and unfriendly. Head to somewhere like Milwaukee and people are just nicer.
 
“Underrated” means, to me, that most people think it sucks but in reality it does not. The top of that list is Birmingham. Very nice downtown, good restaurant scene, people hanging out outdoors. I was really surprised by it.

I’d include Bozeman, MT but I think the secret is out about it.
 
If you're going to pitch Buffalo, I'll add Rochester. Both get a bad rap because of snow without skiing, but, yes, there's lots to like for those who live there or visit.

Queens, in particular, is underrated. If the path along (or beneath) the 7 train out to Flushing isn't the most ethnically diverse place on the planet any longer, it's still in the top 5.

@karstenkibbe, you might as well add Douglaston to Jamaica Estates and Forest Hills Gardens, and then properly consider them a component of the borough's staggering variety of cultures, from the north to south shore.

North Stamford, in parts, is indistinguishable from back country Greenwich and New Canaan.

One thing that has genuinely distinguished Stamford from other CT cities is that it united what we're once separate places into a unified city even before the redeveloped downtown that has been mentioned. As pointed out elsewhere, many US cities have done similarly, annexing adjacent towns and even entire counties (like done or all of Louisville, Columbus, San Antonio, and Indianapolis have), and become healthier for it.

Someone similarly noted that West Hartford, Glastonbury would be interesting, wealthy, tax-revenue contributing neighborhoods in such metropolitanized cities, but Conbecticut's cities suffer in part because only in Stamford do the wealthy and poor have to share resources & responsibilities. Stamford also hugely benefitted from CT's more attractive tax structure when major corporations departed from NYC a half century ago.
With all due respect, have you driven across backcountry Greenwich, North Stamford and New Canaan in the last 25 years? The parts of North Stamford that are similar to its neighbors to the east and west are almost impossible to find. Until covid hit, the average home value in North Stamford was $620,000 and $215/sq ft. You can’t sniff a shack in the towns to the east and west for those prices. What is with people on the Boneyard making things up to conveniently support their stories.
Take a drive up Long Ridge and High Ridge north of the Merritt. Mostly homes stuck in the 1980s that languished on the market for more than a year until NYers decided they needed to run from covid.
 
The thing about a place like Milwaukee is it’s not the northeast. People in the northeast (CT, NYC, NJ, Boston) are short tempered and unfriendly. Head to somewhere like Milwaukee and people are just nicer.

People are actually nice in the upper Midwest, as opposed to the South where they hide behind the friendly accent.
 
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