UMass > MAC for all sports in 2025-2026 | Page 10 | The Boneyard

UMass > MAC for all sports in 2025-2026

nelsonmuntz

Point Center
Joined
Aug 27, 2011
Messages
44,837
Reaction Score
35,021
It will basically take college enrollment numbers down to where they were around the year 2000 or so. But expenses today are higher than they were back then and state governments give much less money now than back then. But most D1 universities will be ok as you noted. It’s the small schools who might be in trouble.

Buffalo is R1 and AAU. Not going anywhere.

Miami is a public ivy. Not going anywhere.

In addition to Buffalo, Kent State, Ohio and UMass are R1. Not going anywhere.

They will adapt, but they aren’t going anywhere.

One of Kent or Akron will not exist in 10 years.
 
Joined
Sep 16, 2015
Messages
335
Reaction Score
1,891
Thread on rationale for NIU move to MWC:


The MAC only gets 800k a year? My god. To think we voluntarily left a conference making 10x that and we’re probably clearing that still with our new media deals as is
 
Joined
Aug 24, 2011
Messages
22,714
Reaction Score
56,309
Gotta hand it to the MWC commish. I thought that conference was dead in the water, but they managed to hold UNLV and add 4 schools + 1 FB-only school, to give them 9 teams for FB and 10 for BB.

Yes, they'll be battling C-USA for the weakest G6, but the fact that they're still alive is impressive.
 
Joined
Aug 4, 2016
Messages
1,470
Reaction Score
2,007
Gotta hand it to the MWC commish. I thought that conference was dead in the water, but they managed to hold UNLV and add 4 schools + 1 FB-only school, to give them 9 teams for FB and 10 for BB.

Yes, they'll be battling C-USA for the weakest G6, but the fact that they're still alive is impressive.
And it cuts the money paid out to G6 conferences. One conference needs to die to increase payouts to the others five.
 
Joined
Aug 24, 2011
Messages
22,714
Reaction Score
56,309
And it cuts the money paid out to G6 conferences. One conference needs to die to increase payouts to the others five.
1) Why does it matter? Isnt # of schools the factor? Why would payout/school be higher if there are 5 conferences instead of 6 (with same total # of schools)?

2) Not gonna happen. Thru the 40 years ending 2026, have averaged one new FBS school a year. And more will come, to further shore up the G6. We may even get a G7 if the WAC/ASUN schools move up.
 
Joined
Aug 4, 2016
Messages
1,470
Reaction Score
2,007
1) Why does it matter? Isnt # of schools the factor? Why would payout/school be higher if there are 5 conferences instead of 6 (with same total # of schools)?

2) Not gonna happen. Thru the 40 years ending 2026, have averaged one new FBS school a year. And more will come, to further shore up the G6. We may even get a G7 if the WAC/ASUN schools move up.
Because conference offices take a cut. And additional FBS schools also cause harm.
 
Joined
Aug 24, 2011
Messages
22,714
Reaction Score
56,309
There will be at least 68 Gx schools, in conferences of 14-11-12-9-7-14
With the 7 expected to increase.
 

nelsonmuntz

Point Center
Joined
Aug 27, 2011
Messages
44,837
Reaction Score
35,021
There will be at least 68 Gx schools, in conferences of 14-11-12-9-7-14
With the 7 expected to increase.

The P4 or P2 will keep paying. These are extortion payments to keep the G5 from filing an anti-trust lawsuit that the P4 is guaranteed to lose.
 

Jetskies

I hope my takes age like milk!
Joined
Oct 18, 2022
Messages
521
Reaction Score
2,443
hypothetical:
football-only invite for UConn?
i'd tell the MAC to kick rocks.
I want no part of MAC-tion on a tuesday.
 
Joined
Sep 16, 2015
Messages
335
Reaction Score
1,891
I'm pretty sure UConn makes more money as an independent
MAC schools make $800k a year for all sports from their TV deal. UConn will be making 10x that from TV deals once the new BE contract starts ($7.3M from BE + $500k from CBSSN)
 
Joined
Mar 4, 2014
Messages
17,887
Reaction Score
24,480
Won’t happen unless the MAC changes their stance on football only members.
It won't happen period. The likelihood of the MAC changing its stance on football only members is greater than UConn accepting a football only invite to the MAC. The MAC finally got UMass to go all in only to lose Nothern Illinois. I don't think UConn would even consider an AAC or PAC 12 football only invite at this point. Big 12 or ACC until those options are concrete no's.
 
Joined
Sep 16, 2015
Messages
335
Reaction Score
1,891
I don't think UConn would even consider an AAC or PAC 12 football only invite at this point. Big 12 or ACC until those options are concrete no's.
This has already been addressed:

 

Jetskies

I hope my takes age like milk!
Joined
Oct 18, 2022
Messages
521
Reaction Score
2,443
Won’t happen unless the MAC changes their stance on football only members.
It won't happen period. The likelihood of the MAC changing its stance on football only members is greater than UConn accepting a football only invite to the MAC. The MAC finally got UMass to go all in only to lose Nothern Illinois. I don't think UConn would even consider an AAC or PAC 12 football only invite at this point. Big 12 or ACC until those options are concrete no's.
realignment is making everyone change their stance. As fat joe says "yesterday's price is not today's price!"

i.e. - the picky/choosy MAC of yesterday that forced UMass to sacrifice its whole Athletic Department for the sake of football stability, is not the same MAC now that NIU is gone.

FWIW, I think UMass made a YUGE mistake letting go of a good thing in the A10 - but i digress.

Agree with Kolumbo, but re-worded as --- I think today, the MAC is absolutely capable of lowering their demands to get a brand name like UConn in their portfolio, even if only football. Again - NIU changes the negotiation.
If the situation gets dire, they will call us - But as others have said, we won't pick up the phone.

We're all in on the real deal - P4 or bust.
 
Joined
Aug 26, 2011
Messages
27,836
Reaction Score
38,770
realignment is making everyone change their stance. As fat joe says "yesterday's price is not today's price!"

i.e. - the picky/choosy MAC of yesterday that forced UMass to sacrifice its whole Athletic Department for the sake of football stability, is not the same MAC now that NIU is gone.

FWIW, I think UMass made a YUGE mistake letting go of a good thing in the A10 - but i digress.

Agree with Kolumbo, but re-worded as --- I think today, the MAC is absolutely capable of lowering their demands to get a brand name like UConn in their portfolio, even if only football. Again - NIU changes the negotiation.
If the situation gets dire, they will call us - But as others have said, we won't pick up the phone.

We're all in on the real deal - P4 or bust.

The A-10 is a dead. It’s nothing like it used to be.
 

Online statistics

Members online
89
Guests online
1,625
Total visitors
1,714

Forum statistics

Threads
160,793
Messages
4,238,734
Members
10,093
Latest member
Verna


.
Top Bottom