UConn to the Big East?

[ctchamps]

I think you're really stretching it, conference strength wise especially when comparing 4 programs to 2. Florida is ranked 17 in the coaches poll. I also think you're selling the Big 12 and PAC 12 short, they're both better than the AAC IMO. Nice game tonight UCLA vs Oregon. Arizona's really good too. Baylor is great. And we're not even talking about the Big 10 and ACC.

It's the recent history as opposed to this year. I think five AAC teams can be regular players and that will fit every conference except the ACC.

But that's hypothetical. This debate is just academic as far as I'm concerned. I'm still really supportive of KO. I don't think we've seen the best from him yet.

 

[huskyrob1]

It's the recent history as opposed to this year. I think five AAC teams can be regular players and that will fit every conference except the ACC.

But that's hypothetical. This debate is just academic as far as I'm concerned. I'm still really supportive of KO. I don't think we've seen the best from him yet.

If by that you mean, the 5 best AAC teams that can stack up against the five best from the other conferences except the ACC, then name the five teams. I'm supportive of Ollie too, I just think he is having a difficult time recruiting in the AAC. I also support him wanting to move to the NBE, it's a smart basketball move from a coaches and a New England schools perspective.

 

[ctchamps]

If by that you mean, the 5 best AAC teams that can stack up against the five best from the other conferences except the ACC, then name the five teams. I'm supportive of Ollie too, I just think he is having a difficult time recruiting in the AAC. I also support him wanting to move to the NBE.

The five teams are UConn, Cincinnati, Memphis, Houston and Temple. Small chance one of the Florida teams can work their way up. I'm not sure SMU has staying power. Just a projected guess. No way of knowing the future with certainty. My allegiance is obviously UConn. Gonzaga, Kentucky, and Kansas show that conferences are not as important as some are arguing.

Your last sentence can be construed that you support KO and you have a preference to go to the NBE. But as written it looks like you are saying KO wants to move to the NBE and you support that decision. I doubt KO wants to weaken UConn football by having bb park in the NBE.

 

[huskyrob1]

The five teams are UConn, Cincinnati, Memphis, Houston and Temple. Small chance one of the Florida teams can work their way up. I'm not sure SMU has staying power. Just a projected guess. No way of knowing the future with certainty. My allegiance is obviously UConn. Gonzaga, Kentucky, and Kansas show that conferences are not as important as some are arguing.

Your last sentence can be construed that you support KO and you have a preference to go to the NBE. But as written it looks like you are saying KO wants to move to the NBE and you support that decision. I doubt KO wants to weaken UConn football by having bb park in the NBE.

How is men's basketball moving to the NBE going to weaken football? UConn will still be in the AAC in football only
The AAC is a solid football conference, not so much in other sports. Football also travels (away games) and recruits much better on a national level than other sports. So for other sports, the NBE helps all those sports, be it in recruiting, recruiting costs, travel for the teams, men's and women's basketball would be back in the New York market.

 

[ctchamps]

How is men's basketball moving to the NBE going to weaken football? UConn will still be in the AAC in football only
The AAC is a solid football conference, not so much in other sports. Football also travels (away games) and recruits much better on a national level than other sports. So for other sports, the NBE helps all those sports, be it in recruiting, recruiting costs, travel for the teams, men's and women's basketball would be back in the New York market.

UConn plays the NBE in several sports.

The primary movers in media contracts is football and basketball. UConn currently brings in women's bb to the equation. Taking UConn bb out of the AAC weakens the conference's leverage and thus impacts monies coming in to support football. And football brings in the most net monies to universities for sports.

 

[shizzle787]

UConn plays the NBE in several sports.

The primary movers in media contracts is football and basketball. UConn currently brings in women's bb to the equation. Taking UConn bb out of the AAC weakens the conference's leverage and thus impacts monies coming in to support football. And football brings in the most net monies to universities for sports.

Football is losing money, and MBB is making it. We need to find the right balance for basketball and football. I'm not sure the AAC affords us that.

 

[huskyrob1]

UConn plays the NBE in several sports.

The primary movers in media contracts is football and basketball. UConn currently brings in women's bb to the equation. Taking UConn bb out of the AAC weakens the conference's leverage and thus impacts monies coming in to support football. And football brings in the most net monies to universities for sports.

Taking UCONN's women's team out of the AAC and putting it in the NBE is going to weaken the whole AAC football conference???? Is your middle name Gumby?

 

[ctchamps]

Taking UCONN's women's team out of the AAC and putting it in the NBE is going to weaken the whole AAC football conference???? Is your middle name Gumby?

Package deal when media examining university value.

 

[ctchamps]

Football is losing money, and MBB is making it. We need to find the right balance for basketball and football. I'm not sure the AAC affords us that.

The NBE will have limited upside with revenues. Sticking with football in the AAC has a small but decent potential to get a decent increase in revenue streams.

Head to the NBE in bb and the AAC is good as dead. If it's good as dead than UConn football is good as dead. If UConn football is good as dead kiss salaries for decent bb coaches goodbye, never mind getting into a P5 conference.

 

[ecasadoSBU]

The NBE will have limited upside with revenues. Sticking with football in the AAC has a small but decent potential to get a decent increase in revenue streams.

Head to the NBE in bb and the AAC is good as dead. If it's good as dead than UConn football is good as dead. If UConn football is good as dead kiss salaries for decent bb coaches goodbye, never mind getting into a P5 conference.

How does the Big East handle salaries. So far I haven't seen many (or any?) defections yet...

Uconn basketball would be a lot more self-sustainable in the Big East IMO

 

[huskyrob1]

The NBE will have limited upside with revenues. Sticking with football in the AAC has a small but decent potential to get a decent increase in revenue streams.

Head to the NBE in bb and the AAC is good as dead. If it's good as dead than UConn football is good as dead. If UConn football is good as dead kiss salaries for decent bb coaches goodbye, never mind getting into a P5 conference.

Based on what you just said, you realize that you are the only person out of millions of fans, players, coaches, AD's, college and conference presidents, who thinks basketball drives the bus.

 

[ctchamps]

Based on what you just said, you realize that you are the only person out of millions of fans, players, coaches, AD's, college and conference presidents, who thinks basketball drives the bus.

Didn't say that. I stated the AAC needs UConn bb to be part of a resume when next media contract comes up. Without UConn bb the conference is greatly reduced. That's because UConn is a blue blood. Having a medium to good bb conference and a medium to good football conference is better than a very good bb conference with no football when it comes to revenues.

You believe UConn will get the advantage of football in AAC and bb in NBE. Doubt either conference will accept this to start off with and even if they would accept it doubt the revenues UConn could get from both conferences would be ultimately as great as they could receive if the AAC improves.

 

[huskyrob1]

Didn't say that. I stated the AAC needs UConn bb to be part of a resume when next media contract comes up. Without UConn bb the conference is greatly reduced. That's because UConn is a blue blood. Having a medium to good bb conference and a medium to good football conference is better than a very good bb conference with no football when it comes to revenues.

You believe UConn will get the advantage of football in AAC and bb in NBE. Doubt either conference will accept this to start off with and even if they would accept it doubt the revenues UConn could get from both conferences would be ultimately as great as they could receive if the AAC improves.

You can take your revenues and stick it. I always thought the goal of a team was to win games and recruit the best players. Positive revenue is gravy.

BTW....Yes you did say that.

 

[7774]

You can take your revenues and stick it. I always thought the goal of a team was to win games and recruit the best players. Positive revenue is gravy.

BTW...Yes you did say that.

I really didn't think you could come up with anything dumber than all your other thoughts in this thread, but you did it.

 

[huskyrob1]

I really didn't think you could come up with anything dumber than all your other thoughts in this thread, but you did it.

What's so dumb about it? Enlighten me genius. Yeah right, taking the UCONN women out of the AAC is gonna destroy the AAC football conference. If you believe that then you're dumber than he is. If all you can do is come up with a personal attack, I suggest you go to the Cesspool.

 

[7774]

What's so dumb about it? Enlighten me genius. Yeah right, taking the UCONN women out of the AAC is gonna destroy the AAC football conference. If you believe that then you're dumber than he is.

Given that you believe money in college sports is a "nice to have", enlightenment is beyond you, so I'm going to pass on that waste of time.

 

[huskyrob1]

Given that you believe money in college sports is a "nice to have", enlightenment is beyond you, so I'm going to pass on that waste of time.

Hey it's great if a program can show a profit, but a coaches first responsibility is to win games and recruit the best players. Your personal attack is noted.

 

[huskymedic]

 

[JMick]

Hey it's great if a program can show a profit, but a coaches first responsibility is to win games and recruit the best players. Your personal attack is noted.

You're in over your head on this one. Have been since the thread was started.

 

[dwalks93]

Hey it's great if a program can show a profit, but a coaches first responsibility is to win games and recruit the best players. Your personal attack is noted.

Breaking news....money drives college sports, particularly football and basketball.

You show me a perineal power program and I'll show you a program that spends in that sport. Alabama football isn't just the best football program in the country it also has the most expensive football program in the country. Ditto for Kentucky in basketball or UNC or Duke. If Texas isn't winning in football then they go out and hire Houston's coach. How do they do that? By paying more money..."profit " is what pays the coaches salaries and build the facilities...so winning requires money and money greatly increases the chances of winning.

Honestly your last 15 posts have become more ridulous and illogical. You've argued everything from UConn's basketball recruiting classes should be re-ranked because you don't see the talent despite being independently ranked by numerous impartial services, to the AAC would agree to UConn removing its most valuable programs (men's and women's basketball) while keeping our underperforming football program there, to money isn't important in college sports.

Do yourself a favor and put yourself in posting timeout for a day until your head clears. I'm not personally attacking you, I'm trying to keep you from embarrassing yourself anymore.

 

[Hoophound]

Here's a link to a story about a kid with a PSU offer (basketball) than ran today. Notice what the article says in regard to the Power 5 conferences:

"Next year Buttrick can add his name to the elite short list of players from Collier County who played basketball for one of Division I’s Power Five conferences – the Atlantic Coast, Big East, Big Ten, Big 12 or Southeastern Conference (SEC)."

The BE name has value and power in the marketplace. People still consider it a major conference....even though it isn't. And it's true, down here nobody knows UConn is in the AAC. They don't really give it thought but when it comes up, they think Big East or ACC. I have to tell them about the American and then they get their bearings that it's the conference with USF and Houston etc. Then they say, "Wtf?" To which I reply, "I know, it's bad". I'd rather play SJU and Seton Hall over every team in the AAC except maybe Temple and that's only because Temple is a bigger basketball name at this point.

Prep boys basketball: CSN's Trent Buttrick commits to Penn State

 

[huskymedic]

Here's a link to a story about a kid with a PSU offer (basketball) than ran today. Notice what the article says in regard to the Power 5 conferences:

"Next year Buttrick can add his name to the elite short list of players from Collier County who played basketball for one of Division I’s Power Five conferences – the Atlantic Coast, Big East, Big Ten, Big 12 or Southeastern Conference (SEC)."

Poor PAC12... relegated down.

 

[Tuna]

Here's a link to a story about a kid with a PSU offer (basketball) than ran today. Notice what the article says in regard to the Power 5 conferences:

"Next year Buttrick can add his name to the elite short list of players from Collier County who played basketball for one of Division I’s Power Five conferences – the Atlantic Coast, Big East, Big Ten, Big 12 or Southeastern Conference (SEC)."

Did you really just quote a paper that named those conferences as the P5?

 

[huskyrob1]

Breaking news...money drives college sports, particularly football and basketball.

You show me a perineal power program and I'll show you a program that spends in that sport. Alabama football isn't just the best football program in the country it also has the most expensive football program in the country. Ditto for Kentucky in basketball or UNC or Duke. If Texas isn't winning in football then they go out and hire Houston's coach. How do they do that? By paying more money.."profit " is what pays the coaches salaries and build the facilities..so winning requires money and money greatly increases the chances of winning.

Honestly your last 15 posts have become more ridulous and illogical. You've argued everything from UConn's basketball recruiting classes should be re-ranked because you don't see the talent despite being independently ranked by numerous impartial services, to the AAC would agree to UConn removing its most valuable programs (men's and women's basketball) while keeping our underperforming football program there, to money isn't important in college sports.

Do yourself a favor and put yourself in posting timeout for a day until your head clears. I'm not personally attacking you, I'm trying to keep you from embarrassing yourself anymore.

Your argument has some merit snd money can buy championships and records, but look at Villanova, Butler, Gonzaga. Big rich schools? Does UCONN spend the most on it's woman's program than any other school? 90 some odd games in a row, I guess they spend more than the whole BIG 10. Right? Hey you know what Gampels roof leaks, and sometimes they have to play their home games at the Civic Center. What about perennial powers in D2 college sports, or pro football, baseball and basketball? Do the pro teams with the largest payroll always there. How about pro teams with the smallest payrolls, are any of them always there? Sometimes.

 

[Hoophound]

Did you really just quote a paper that named those conferences as the P5?

Yep. That's the whole point. Most people don't follow realignment like we do. The typical fan across the country still thinks UConn is in the Big East and that the Big East is a major conference.

 

[Tuna]

Yep. That's the whole point. Most people don't follow realignment like we do. The typical fan across the country still thinks UConn is in the Big East and that the Big East is a major conference.

I have to ask, who gives 2 shts what someone so ill-informed thinks about what conference we are or aren't in? And what bearing does the perception of the "typical" fan have on absolutely anything especially if they are so clueless?

 

[BUConn10]

I have to ask, who gives 2 shts what someone so ill-informed thinks about what conference we are or aren't in? And what bearing does the perception of the "typical" fan have on absolutely anything especially if they are so clueless?

Perception is reality, never forget that.

 

[Tuna]

Perception is reality, never forget that.

Well that's deep. If you believe the perception of casual basketball fans in southwestern Florida has any effect on UCONN basketball's reality I'm not sure what to say.

It's like some of you have this bizarre inferiority complex where you care so much about what people that don't matter think. Win games, that's all that matters because wins and losses are reality. No matter what you believe, fans all over the country have no power over that either way.

 

[7774]

Perception is reality, never forget that.

Sure, except where reality is reality, and in reality the Big East isn't in the P5, so when the split happens they're regardless of how many articles say they're in the P5.

 

[dwalks93]

Your argument has some merit snd money can buy championships and records, but look at Villanova, Butler, Gonzaga. Big rich schools? Does UCONN spend the most on it's woman's program than any other school? 90 some odd games in a row, I guess they spend more than the whole BIG 10. Right? Hey you know what Gampels roof leaks, and sometimes they have to play their home games at the Civic Center. What about perennial powers in D2 college sports, or pro football, baseball and basketball? Do the pro teams with the largest payroll always there. How about pro teams with the smallest payrolls, are any of them always there? Sometimes.

Yes the UConn women do spend more than other competitors. See link below. UConn pays more because UConn cares about women's basketball. It is our premier program. Just like Alabama in football or Kentucky in men's basketball. But hey, don't let the facts get in the way of your argument.

The best paid women's coach is a man - UConn's Geno Auriemma

Can a smaller program succeed like a Butler or Gonzaga in basketball? Sure but the odds of consistently outperforming the marque P5 programs are stacked against them. Jay Wright may be the best coach in Men's basketball and if a P5 program doubles what Nova pays him he may take it. Money increases the chance of success. "Always" isn't the standard...