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UConn/Tennessee Home & Home Likely Not Going to Happen

Paying would work out for the Vols...

An average home game is worth $2 + million to a P5 home team..more if you seat 80,000 or more...the contract was made in 1998 when $500,000 was probably a buy out.
 
billybud said:
Paying would work out for the Vols...

An average home game is worth $2 + million to a P5 home team..more if you seat 80,000 or more...the contract was made in 1998 when $500,000 was probably a buy out.
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The contract was made in 2008.
 
TMB4405 said:
Not sure if this belongs in this thread or not, but this is a serious question. Do you think BC would go back and change their position on Uconn based on what they know now? It would seem to me that having another New England institition would not be all that bad for them.
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I think this question is much more pertinent if UConn football surprises this fall and next, and Hurley is named NCOY, Geno rolls on, Penders baseball team makes the super regionals, and UConn academics gets another bump up the ladder. It could happen, me the optimist. Lol
 
ConnHuskBask said:
The most inevitable outcome of almost anything in UConn football history.

I'd take $1M+ (Clemson was $1.2M) buy game and play them at Tennessee.

We need the money.

Work on realistic home/homes going forward meaning more BYU, Boise State, and the former Big East schools.
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And make Tennessee Men's and Women's Basketball each play a one-off in Storrs.
 
Wordbomar said:
The contract was made in 2008.
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yeah..meant 2008....the buyouts were smaller 10 years back...

Last year, Miami cancelled against Arkansas State (@ ark.) because of possible hurricane conditions in Miami. They didn't want their players out of town with a hurricane expected to hit.

Miami is being sued for the $650,000 contract buy out.

Miami counter sued...probably will be a settlement at a figure below the buy out.
 
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RSTuthill said:
The Carolina schools could not understand BC's position but deferred to them as a regional prerogative. They were drooling over having UConn BB.
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NC State was a hard no. UNC and Duke locked together and wanted a decent BB team over a FB team. At the time, you needed 75% of the 12 schools. The no's were BC, Clemson, FSU, UVA, VT, Miami and NC State. Add in that they were armed with the TV $$$ to be added by the various schools, and the deck was stacked against Uconn.
 
06029 said:
NC State was a hard no. UNC and Duke locked together and wanted a decent BB team over a FB team. At the time, you needed 75% of the 12 schools. The no's were BC, Clemson, FSU, UVA, VT, Miami and NC State. Add in that they were armed with the TV $$$ to be added by the various schools, and the deck was stacked against Uconn.
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Interesting. Hadn't heard NCSt or UVA. Do remember where you heard this?
 
Too bad we couldn't make this home and home work by sweetening the pot for TN with some M and W basketball action and throw in a mens baseball visit.

UMass's near victory last year probably sealed the deal against UConn.
 
CL82 said:
Interesting. Hadn't heard NCSt or UVA. Do remember where you heard this?
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A senior, non-ESPN related media consultant from a company that had and continues to have a vested interest in the ACC.
 
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HawkHusky said:
That's because UVA being a no vote is total BS. I don't know about NC State but UVA was with Duke and UNC in the pro-UCONN camp.
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That was true the last time round. I think UVA and NC State voted against way back when. The last time, all 4 Carolina schools were in our camp, but got bullied by FSU and to a lesser degree Clemson.
 
HawkHusky said:
That's because UVA being a no vote is total BS. I don't know about NC State but UVA was with Duke and UNC in the pro-UCONN camp.
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Per the person I talked with, UVA was a no on all expansion votes except when it came to adding VT and that was only a yes because of VA politics. At the time of the last round of expansion, UVA BB was near the middle/bottom of the ACC and FB was closer to the top.

And since none of us was in the room, we all have to rely on second/third hand reports. I would like to know why you are so positive UVA was a yes vote.
 
HawkHusky said:
That's because UVA being a no vote is total BS. I don't know about NC State but UVA was with Duke and UNC in the pro-UCONN camp.
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That was what was reported at the time. I think NC State was reported as a yes too.
 
Back on topic...

Tennessee Attempting To Renege On Home-And-Home Contract With UConn, Randy Edsall Says

>>Edsall said athletic director David Benedict explained the situation to him recently and that the two agreed they should push Tennessee for at least a game in Knoxville, whether or not the Volunteers honor the home-and-home agreement.

“We feel, hey we had a contract signed, we should be getting something out of that,” Edsall said. “So we’re just trying to do our due diligence for our program and trying to hold people accountable to something we had. Whether we can have it as a home-and-home, I don’t know, but we’re gonna explore our possibilities to at least get something out of something that we had signed.”<<

>>Though Edsall sounded resigned to giving up UConn’s home game against Tennessee, he said he hoped the schools could agree to a so-called “guarantee game” in Knoxville. If that were to happen, Tennessee would pay UConn a negotiated figure, possibly above the $300,000 outlined in the original contract between the schools.

The original contract between UConn and Tennessee, obtained by The Courant through a Freedom of Information request, established that in the event of a breach of contract, the breaching party would pay $1 million to the other school. However, with the sides engaged in conversation, such a payout appears unlikely.<<
 
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huskymedic said:
Back on topic...

Tennessee Attempting To Renege On Home-And-Home Contract With UConn, Randy Edsall Says

>>Edsall said athletic director David Benedict explained the situation to him recently and that the two agreed they should push Tennessee for at least a game in Knoxville, whether or not the Volunteers honor the home-and-home agreement.

“We feel, hey we had a contract signed, we should be getting something out of that,” Edsall said. “So we’re just trying to do our due diligence for our program and trying to hold people accountable to something we had. Whether we can have it as a home-and-home, I don’t know, but we’re gonna explore our possibilities to at least get something out of something that we had signed.”<<

>>Though Edsall sounded resigned to giving up UConn’s home game against Tennessee, he said he hoped the schools could agree to a so-called “guarantee game” in Knoxville. If that were to happen, Tennessee would pay UConn a negotiated figure, possibly above the $300,000 outlined in the original contract between the schools.

The original contract between UConn and Tennessee, obtained by The Courant through a Freedom of Information request, established that in the event of a breach of contract, the breaching party would pay $1 million to the other school. However, with the sides engaged in conversation, such a payout appears unlikely.<<
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The $1m would be good. Seems to be the going rate for selling a UConn game with both the Fenway BC game and the guarantee at Clemson being right around there.
 
HuskyHawk said:
That was what was reported at the time. I think NC State was reported as a yes too.
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Who reported it? I can't find and do not remember any published report that said who voted which way except for BC who had an AD quoted. And I was wrong. 9 schools needed to vote for Uconn in 2011. I think I said 8 before.
 
History Geek said:
It's amazing how often you have to set the record straight on this. Urban legends won't die.
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It wasn't just BC but BC played a HUGE part in the road block
Florida State, Miami, Pitt and a few others said no thanks to UConn also

As far as the Tennessee situation - as Chief00 says, its a business.
UConn stands to lose appreciable revenue if they lose this home game - let's see what kind of business person DB is and what he does - if anything
The minimum I would expect is a full share of revenue if it were a capacity crowd (nobody knows if it would or not be) plus you have to take into consideration of the loss in revenue for parking/concessions etc. This is not an act of God that cancelled the game it was a decision by one party.
Does DB have the fortitude to crap on a former SEC buddy if he has thoughts of personally returning to that conference (which I am sure he is actively looking to do)?
 
BC, FSU, and Miami are on top of the scum list. Add GT, Clemson, and NC State as the slaves of FSU, and it was all over. Pitt stole UConn's place there. Sad, but true. It is time to stop with the ACC dreaming, It is not going to happen.
 
20k attendance (if that) for our last home game vs an SEC opponent (Missouri 2017) is not going to help our claim of lost revenue.
 
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uconnbill said:
I know Pitt sued as well, but the ACC wanted to keep them out of the Big Ten. We should have been asked then, but UConn wasn't as we know.
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If Pitt wanted to keep them out, then why did they select UConn first?

The Pitt AD at the time actually went ballistic on ACC ADs and officials. The nasty stuff he said... was forgotten after BC pulled their gambit.
 
uconnbill said:
I know Pitt sued as well, but the ACC wanted to keep them out of the Big Ten. We should have been asked then, but UConn wasn't as we know.
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Yes I’d totally go with the guy who thinks the ACC added Pitt to defend from them joining the Big Ten. It’s totally not just that he hates Democrats.
 
What kind of past settlements have there been for when a P5 cancels an agreed upon game
 
methodology said:
What kind of past settlements have there been for when a P5 cancels an agreed upon game
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Virginia Tech and Michigan were set to play in 2020 and then again in 2021. Because of the cancellation, the Wolverines will pay the Hokies a $375,000 cancellation fee. Link

Michigan will reportedly pay Arkansas $2 million for the trouble of cancelling the series. Link

NJ Advance Media has confirmed that Rutgers must pay the $100,000 fee written into the contract with Miami for cancelling the games. Link

Rutgers will have to pay UCLA a termination fee of $500,000 for cancelling the series. Link

At the end of the day, I think it comes down to whatever is stipulated in the contract signed 10 years ago.
 
I don't know what the buyout is if Tennessee decides not to visit us. It appears they hold most of the leverage with the negotiations.They can simply buyout the game and schedule an East Carolina-Liberty-JMU-FAU-FIU-Western Kentucky type of the game and make their money back and then some. I'm sure they would like to schedule one game at their place or a 2-1. Hopefully, we can work out something, but the likely scenario is them is simply writing a check for us to go away.
 
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