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1 Baylor (40) 11-0 1,000
2 Connecticut 9-1 944
3 Notre Dame 10-1 926
4 Stanford 7-1 878
5 Maryland 11-0 825
6 Tennessee 7-2 802
7 Miami (FL) 9-1 758
8 Kentucky 10-1 692
9 Duke 7-2 657
10 Texas A&M 8-2 613
11 Ohio State 11-0 585
12 Rutgers 10-2 546
13 Georgia 8-1 500
14 Louisville 10-2 483
15 Texas Tech 9-0 476
16 Penn State 9-2 390
17 Georgetown 9-2 363
18 Green Bay 8-0 300
19 Delaware 8-0 259
20 Purdue 8-3 213
21 DePaul 10-2 204
22 Texas 8-2 162
23 North Carolina 7-2 114
24 Nebraska 10-1 110
25 Vanderbilt 10-1 103
 

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I hate to say it but UCONN should be #3. If you lose you should drop one spot at least. Just like Notre Dame. That's just the nature of the polls. We can make the argument about how close the game was and no one else stood up to Baylor like we did, but we lost the game. The #2 spot can rightfully be settled each time UCONN and ND play one another.
 
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I hate to say it but UCONN should be #3. If you lose you should drop one spot at least. Just like Notre Dame. That's just the nature of the polls. We can make the argument about how close the game was and no one else stood up to Baylor like we did, but we lost the game. The #2 spot can rightfully be settled each time UCONN and ND play one another.

Last night the two best teams in the country played and #1 beat #2 by 5 points. The voters got it right, UCONN should not have dropped!
 

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We had Baylor down by 11--their largest deficit of the season--at Baylor and also led within the last 5 minutes. No one has played Baylor as tough. I also doubt if anyone else has beaten two top 10 teams by 12 and 30. I think the ranking of 2 is appropriate.

I also think the top 3 are clustered, with perhaps a larger gap between 3 and 4 than between 1 and 2 or between 2 and 3.
 

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I hate to say it but UCONN should be #3. If you lose you should drop one spot at least. Just like Notre Dame. That's just the nature of the polls. We can make the argument about how close the game was and no one else stood up to Baylor like we did, but we lost the game. The #2 spot can rightfully be settled each time UCONN and ND play one another.
i hear what you are saying. however, ND lost by 13 at Baylor and UCONN lost by 5. additionally, ND beat Duke by 2 a bit ago. i realize it makes little difference as UCONN and ND could face each other 3 times this year, but i don't disagree with the rankings as they are.

the question is do you drop a team for a close loss AT Baylor, or do you rank them according to who you think is better? based on performances against common opponents, UCONN is better.
 

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I think UConn is fairly ranked at this point, but it's not even worth sweating one way or another. UConn-ND will be settled on the court. Hopefully not four times.
 

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I think UConn is fairly ranked at this point, but it's not even worth sweating one way or another. UConn-ND will be settled on the court. Hopefully not four times.

Amen!
 

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I hate to say it but UCONN should be #3. If you lose you should drop one spot at least. Just like Notre Dame. That's just the nature of the polls. We can make the argument about how close the game was and no one else stood up to Baylor like we did, but we lost the game. The #2 spot can rightfully be settled each time UCONN and ND play one another.
So, which team should be #2?

ND is 10-1 (loss to Baylor)
Stanford is 7-1 (loss to UConn)
Tenn is 7-2 (loss to Baylor & Virginia)
Miami is 9-1 (forgot who they lost to)
Kentucky is 10-1 (loss to ND)
Duke is 7-2 (loss to ND & Kentucky)
Texas A&M is 8-2 (loss to UConn & Purdue)

Should Maryland, at 11-0, be #2? The only team of note they've played is Georgetown back on Nov. 12.
 
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I agree with the rankings. Let's see if they hold true in March and April.
 

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i hear what you are saying. however, ND lost by 13 at Baylor and UCONN lost by 5. additionally, ND beat Duke by 2 a bit ago. i realize it makes little difference as UCONN and ND could face each other 3 times this year, but i don't disagree with the rankings as they are.

the question is do you drop a team for a close loss AT Baylor, or do you rank them according to who you think is better? based on performances against common opponents, UCONN is better.
Last night the two best teams in the country played and #1 beat #2 by 5 points. The voters got it right, UCONN should not have dropped!

I agree the best two teams played and it was a close game. But, to stay consistent UCONN should move down one spot. If this is just about ranking the better team ahead of the others then the top 25 needs adjusting from #5 on down.
 

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So, which team should be #2?

ND is 10-1 (loss to Baylor)
Stanford is 7-1 (loss to UConn)
Tenn is 7-2 (loss to Baylor & Virginia)
Miami is 9-1 (forgot who they lost to)
Kentucky is 10-1 (loss to ND)
Duke is 7-2 (loss to ND & Kentucky)
Texas A&M is 8-2 (loss to UConn & Purdue)

Should Maryland, at 11-0, be #2? The only team of note they've played is Georgetown back on Nov. 12.

Notre Dame moves up to #2.
I don't think Notre Dame is better than UCONN.
It's just based on the loss, UCONN should move out of the #2 spot.(unless the people below you lose also)
 
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Notre Dame moves up to #2.
I don't think Notre Dame is better than UCONN.
It's just based on the loss, UCONN should move out of the #2 spot.(unless the people below you lose also)

And how do you rationalize ND at #2? UCONN & ND both lost to Baylor in Waco. UCONN proved to be a much better adversary and a made a game of it. So why should ND be ranked higher than UCONN?
 

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I think voters dropped ND not necessarily because they lost, but because they lost in a way that, in voters' minds, caused them to fail the eyeball test, as in, this just didn't look like the #2 team in their eyes, whereas UConn passed that same eyeball test. But in any case, it's really not much of an issue. It's a December poll, and UConn-ND will play itself out on the court. Plural times.
 
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I think voters dropped ND not necessarily because they lost, but because they lost in a way that, in voters' minds, caused them to fail the eyeball test, as in, this just didn't look like the #2 team in their eyes, whereas UConn passed that same eyeball test. But in any case, it's really not much of an issue. It's a December poll, and UConn-ND will play itself out on the court. Plural times.
Exactly right, Alex. I read today that UConn was "expecting to drop in the polls" but I thought, who are we going to drop behind? The poll is just discussion fodder at this point, anyway.
 

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And how do you rationalize ND at #2? UCONN & ND both lost to Baylor in Waco. UCONN proved to be a much better adversary and a made a game of it. So why should ND be ranked higher than UCONN?

I would have UCONN at #2.... but you could factor in that ND beat top 10 Duke on a neutral court... a top 7 Kentucky team.. and a top 25 Purdue team.... whereas UCONN has beaten Stanford at home... and TAMU at home.
 

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And how do you rationalize ND at #2? UCONN & ND both lost to Baylor in Waco. UCONN proved to be a much better adversary and a made a game of it. So why should ND be ranked higher than UCONN?

Just like in the vast majority of sports polls, when you lose you drop down and when you win you move up. This is my only point! I love UCONN just like everyone on this forum. I find it amazing everyone is on this "quality of loss" thing. If this is going to be the "standard" for teams moving up ,down or staying put then it should be reflected throughout the poll not just a great game between Baylor and UCONN. Make it fair for every team in the entire polling system. If not, how do you justify it for UCONN?
 

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I highly doubt either UConn or ND care one way or the other who is #2 and who is #3 at this point in the season.
 

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Notre Dame moves up to #2.
I don't think Notre Dame is better than UCONN.
It's just based on the loss, UCONN should move out of the #2 spot.(unless the people below you lose also)

I absolutely cannot stand when people vote this way. Voting should be based on who you think is first best, second best, etc. But this "lose=move down, win=move up" philosophy never ever will make sense to me.

If someone thinks ND is better, I have no problem with them at #2. But the argument "I think UConn is better, but they lost more recently" defies any kind of logic to me.
 
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